Re: CF and Orientation .

2004-12-03 Thread Horace Heffner
At 1:19 AM 12/3/4, Harry Veeder wrote: After reading some more, it seems to me a more accurate name for this field is non-inertial-chemistry. Gravi-chemistry is misleading unless you are endorsing the general theory of relativity which assumes that an accelerating or non-inertial frame of

US review rekindles cold fusion debate : Nature Magazine

2004-12-03 Thread Emeka Okafor
According to the report, the panel was "split approximately evenly" on the question of whether cold experiments were actually producing power in the form of heat. But members agreed that there is not enough evidence to prove that cold fusion has occurred, and they complained that much of

Recent message from Physics Today

2004-12-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
Here is a hysterical message about Physics Today. Frankly I am surprised Physics Today responded at all. Maybe they are feeling the heat? - Jed Below is the information submitted on Dec-2-104 17:5 EST

Re: CF in everyday life

2004-12-03 Thread RC Macaulay
Robin, The tile is 1 representing a potential of 1 water column pressure against the surface of the tile. As the water touches the tile an audible sucking sound occurs indicating a vacuum forms at the surface. A pressure greater than 1 w.c. psid is required to produce an audible sound..

Re: Recent message from Physics Today

2004-12-03 Thread Edmund Storms
This is a form letter that is sent in response to any such question. If the physicist who was interviewed responded, that would be important. Ed Jed Rothwell wrote: Here is a hysterical message about Physics Today. Frankly I am surprised Physics Today responded at all. Maybe they are

Re: comments on the Cirillo paper

2004-12-03 Thread Jones Beene
Horace Heffner writes I have done plenty of tritium counting using liquid scintillation counting. I think it is more difficult to count water borne tritium by other means. Scintillation couters can reliably and automatically discriminate between tritium and say carbon 14. There is almost no

RE: Recent message from Physics Today

2004-12-03 Thread Keith Nagel
Hi. It is written: message: I read a recent editorial in Physics Today journal where the editor was interviewing a physicist of some repute on what criteria he would accept the LENR/cold fusion phenomenon as worthy of further research and DOE funding. The physicist replied that if the

Re: comments on the Cirillo paper

2004-12-03 Thread Horace Heffner
At 9:16 AM 12/3/4, Jones Beene wrote: [snip] Let me direct your attention to Thallium online http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/thallium.htm You will see that over 95% of the gammas in this situation would have a mean energy between 68-80 KeV but are coming from the transitory mercury isotope as

Dual electron catalysed fusion

2004-12-03 Thread Horace Heffner
If a pair of deuterium hydrinos fuse, or if two electrons are involved in D + D catalysis, without the electrons falling into the Coulomb well and thus gaining kinetic energy, the resulting highly *de-energized* neutral nucleus resulting from multiple quantum wavefunction collapse would be

Re: comments on the Cirillo paper

2004-12-03 Thread P.J van Noorden
Hello Horace The condenser was made out of glass and had a length of 1.5 meter and was positioned vertically. It was cooled by water which flowed around the glass condenser. Best Regards Peter - Original Message - From: Horace Heffner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday,

Re: Latest from Iwamura

2004-12-03 Thread Edmund Storms
NRL is now attempting to duplicate this work. This program was undertaken well before the DoE review and apparently was unknown to the reviewers. If, as expected, they replicate the Iwamura claims, the ball game will be over. Ed George Holz wrote: Hi Jed, See:

FW: WHAT'S NEW Friday, December 03, 2004

2004-12-03 Thread Akira Kawasaki
[Original Message] From: What's New [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Akira Kawasaki [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 12/3/2004 12:11:50 PM Subject: WHAT'S NEW Friday, December 03, 2004 WHAT'S NEW Robert L. Park Friday, 3 Dec 04 Washington, DC

RE: Latest from Iwamura

2004-12-03 Thread Johnson, Steven
From: Edmund Storms NRL is now attempting to duplicate this work. This program was undertaken well before the DoE review and apparently was unknown to the reviewers. If, as expected, they replicate the Iwamura claims, the ball game will be over. Ed Hello Ed, Best guestamate as to when

Re: comments on the Cirillo paper

2004-12-03 Thread Jones Beene
Horace, ...Anyway if lots of tritium was being produced, a fair amount of the bremsstrahlung gamma photons of about 3-6 keV would be seen. These gamms have almost no pentrating power in water. This is why organic solvents are used for liquid scintillation counting. The water is kept to a

Re: Recent message from Physics Today

2004-12-03 Thread Mitchell Swartz
For the general reader, Dr Swartz has been asked on repeated occasions to submit his paper in a form that Jed can read. He has failed to do this, preferring instead to complain about censorship. As any one who reads LENR can plainly see, we are very open to publishing papers from all

Re: Recent message from Physics Today

2004-12-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mitchell Swartz wrote: Let's address your statements. First, the titles to our three papers were removed by you because you personally desired that (as is your right, as has been stated before). I haven't the SLIGHTEST idea what this is all about, or which titles Swartz thinks were removed,

RE: Recent message from Physics Today

2004-12-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
Keith Nagel wrote: and DOE funding. The physicist replied that if the LENR/cold fusion community could demonstrate an input/output energy ratio of 1/10, 100% repeatability and economic feasibility he would recommend going ahead. This is exactly my point 1 from my last post. Jed says it is

Re: Latest from Iwamura

2004-12-03 Thread Jones Beene
The most amazing starting point about this paper to me, and maybe it is the ending point for Iwarmura since he emphasizes it so often but refuses the temptation to go further (even at ground Zero it's called job-security)... is the nuclear transmutations of Ba into Sm but some of us (who have

Bursts of power.

2004-12-03 Thread Harry Veeder
One of the criticisms of the DOE panel was that the cells did not provide continuous excess power over the entire time span of an experiment. I think this is natural trait of CF systems, but it is not without value as the DOE panel implies. If one can learn to predict when a cell will produce

Re: Bursts of power.

2004-12-03 Thread Edmund Storms
This is one of many statements made by the reviewers that is incomplete and based on confusion. The fact is that when solid palladium is used as the cathode, time is required for it to acquire the required high D/Pd ratio and time is required for the active material to plate on the surface. If

Re: comments on the Cirillo paper

2004-12-03 Thread Horace Heffner
At 12:31 PM 12/3/4, Jones Beene wrote: I see from the post just now from Peter that his condenser was water cooled, but I must assume that the Tl did not cross the pyrex glass boundary or else he would have mentioned it specifically. The was no mention of the Tl showng up in the cooling water,

Re: Latest from Iwamura

2004-12-03 Thread Horace Heffner
At 12:45 PM 12/3/4, Edmund Storms wrote: The flood gates open and people in the CF field become heroes and are asked to help develop the field. Park becomes a believer and criticizes the DoE for being so slow. If that ever happens I'll send Park a painting of a pig flying over a dancing