Re: vortex-digest Digest V2005 #168

There might be more truth to the following statement than Jed realizes: " Speak for yourself! It is not a problem with my cortex. Seriously, you seem to be asserting that everyone is religious but we just won't admit it. Do you really think half the people in Europe are lying? That's silly." I

RE: experimental challenge

Hi RC, You didn't understand my post at all, did you? Please re-read it. I am suggesting to you that, contrary to your organized religious teachings, it is possible to have a direct personal experience of the divine. How you get from this statement to "Keith is trying to disprove god" is a great

Re: OT Constitutional Reform Act

Stephen,   It has been the experience here in Texas that when the legislature is in session, no man's life nor property is safe. Over the past 30 years there has been an increase in " changes" to the Texas constitution. Every time there is a change it seems that later the " hook" in the bait

Re: experimental challenge

Keith,   No need to prove God, you may foolishly attempt to prove there is no God.   God is a spirit and must be worshiped in the spirit by faith.   The first commandment of God is to love Him with all your heart, soul, might and mind, and love your neighbor as yourself.   If you desire to tes

[OT] Constitutional Reform Act

I've had this act, which may become law in a few months, pointed out to me as a catastrophe in the making. I looked at the act, I read some of the commentary on it, and I can't decide -- is it a disaster, is it the camel getting his nose under the tent, or is it just irrelevant? Here's the gi

Experimental Challenge!!!!!

Hi All. Needless to say, an awful lot of bandwidth has been devoted to discussion concerning Bog and all his heavenly hosts. It's been interesting, in much the same way as rubbernecking a major car wreck. What strikes me most about the discussion is the utter lack of constructive dialogue concerni

Re: OT: "If I were Pope."

Kyle Mcallister wrote: Vortexians, OK, this is getting a little "crazy-go-nuts." 1. Margaret Sanger was responsible for some good, yes. and Ed Storms responded The problem is that some people would be very willing to leave you and people with your belief system alone. However, there seems to be

Magic Cube Thread/ Magic Square Applications

--- Horace Heffner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 7:56 PM 4/5/5, Harvey Norris wrote: > [snip] > >Find ANY magic cube; if you think it exists. > [snip] > > > Hopefully you have seen the article by Eric W > Weisstein, "Semiperfect Magic > Cube," from Mathworld, A Wolfram Resource, > > >

OT: "If I were Pope."

> Jed wrote: >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> I have no idea if what my mother was seeing really existed >> or not. Doesn't really matter. However, the fact that >> western influenced scientific rationale would simply >> proclaim that my mother was experiencing nothing more >> than a "hallucination"

Re: OT: Question regarding condoms

Nick Palmer wrote: The 95-97% success rate for condoms relates to the percentage of women (3-5%),  using only condoms, who will become pregnant if they use them for one year. Now *that* makes sense. That is the kind of statistic one could measure with accuracy, because nearly all pregnancies are

Re: vortex-digest Digest V2005 #166

John Robertson wrote: "I also find many aspects of Japanese and Chinese religious distasteful, or horrifying, and I expect Robertson would, too;" and later "I expect Robertson would find them kind of creepy." Does Jed really know me well enough to "expect" me to find certain beliefs distasteful,

Re: OT: Question regarding condoms

The 95-97% success rate for condoms relates to the percentage of women (3-5%),  using only condoms, who will become pregnant if they use them for one year.

Re: OT: Question regarding condoms

leaking pen wrote: and then, you have your condom distribution drives.  they dont always...   turn out the way youd like. http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/halfmoon1/condom-staple.jpg Photo showing . . . Oh no! Good grief! Lol! (Or Cry out Loud) - Jed

Re: vortex-digest Digest V2005 #166

As I said, "I find Jed's method of argumentation interesting, even effective, but in many cases inherently contradictory." Case in point: He baldly states that "Robertson is putting words in my mouth. He should debate with what I actually said, not with what he thinks I think." Hmmm. Nice to kn

Changing your culture is not transcending it

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jed, I thought some of your recent post contained many astute observations. OTOH, you claim you "cannot transcend [your] own culture." Personally, I would disagree with that assumption. I tend to suspect we all eventually transcend the boundaries of the culture we were bo

Re: OT: "If I were Pope."

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have no idea if what my mother was seeing really existed or not. Doesn't really matter. However, the fact that western influenced scientific rationale would simply proclaim that my mother was experiencing nothing more than a "hallucination" is, in my view, a cop out. Th

Re: [OT] The Labor of the Sun

Many countries are known for olive cultivation including Italy.  It could be Dionigi Tettamanzi, Archbishop of Milan, Julian Herranz of Spain (an Opus Dei member), or an olive-skinned South American.  My bet is still on Cardinal Lustiger whom I posted about earlier.    Note that John Paul II stat

Re: OT: "If I were Pope."

Well, if my cat is any indication, they're real.  She chases things I can't see frequently![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have no idea if what my mother was seeing really existed or not. Do you Yahoo!? Better first dates. More second dates. Yahoo! Personals

Re: OT: Question regarding condoms

Horace Heffner wrote: I've read anecdotal evidence some virus spilled on a lab bench top and was left for several days and was subsequently cultured. That might happen with some viruses but not AIDS. Oxygen kills it. If there is indeed an overall average mechanical failure rate of 5 percent . .

Re: OT: Question regarding condoms

In fact, deluding uninfected people who are otherwise chaste or monogamous into thinking condoms make for "safe sex" merely moves them from a protected group into a group that will ultimately be overrun by the exponential process that is a minority population. those that are chaste or monogamous

Re: OT: "If I were Pope."

> From: Jed Rothwell ... > It is quite rational, but the conclusion you reach > depends upon your preconceptions, background, training > and expectations. In my mother's case she integrated > it into her pre-existing picture of reality and concluded > it must be a clinical problem rather than a s

Re: OT: Question regarding condoms

actually, a ruptured condom will almost never lead to the aids infection of a male (penetrating). the member is still rather protected from fluid. its the other way that infection will go. even so, infection rates for aids are around one in 25 encounters for male to female, one in 40 female to m

Re: [OT] The Labor of the Sun

hey. nice spin on it. i was hoping hed last that long, so hed die on an eclipse day, but that works too. so, whos the glory of the olive? On Apr 6, 2005 10:49 AM, Terry Blanton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Some believe that St. Malachy predicted the popes from the 12th century on. > > h

Re: OT: Question regarding condoms

At 10:10 AM 4/6/5, Jed Rothwell wrote: >I assume that the term "95% effective" means that 5% >fail mechanically. [snip] >If everyone in a society uses condoms, the spread of AIDS will be >stopped instantly, and eventually the disease will go extinct because I do >not think it survives outside the h

[OT] The Labor of the Sun

Some believe that St. Malachy predicted the popes from the 12th century on. http://www.catholic-pages.com/grabbag/malachy.asp The recently deceased pope was named by Malachy "De Labore Solis" or "The Labor of the Sun". It is commonly known that JPII was born during an eclipse (May 18, 1920); but,

RE: OT: "If I were Pope."

Michael Palin writes: > There are Jews in the world, there are Buddists, There are Hindus and Mormons and then There are those that follow Mohammad, but I've never been one of them. I'm a Roman Catholic, And have been since before I was born, And the one thing they say about Catholics is They'll

Re: OT: "If I were Pope."

Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: This actually has been studied, but I can't give the reference off hand. In every generation some number of people experience "theophanies"; IIRC the number amounts to a few percent of the population. Whether you, personally, accept such experiences as being "really

Re: OT: Question regarding condoms

thanks jed, beat me to it. but yes, acutally, there was a study done that showed that about 5 percent of condoms used correctly failed mechanically, usually as a result of being past the expiration date (a higher problem in the third world). ill have to hunt down the study. and theres a higher f

Re: If I Were Pope

John Robertson wrote: I find Jed's method of argumentation interesting, even effective, but in many cases inherently contradictory. Consider his opening sentence: " I know nothing about religion" Later he repeats himself: " I know nothing about religion." By that I mean I have only read a few

Re: OT: "If I were Pope."

You've put up a fabulous series of posts on several topics in the last week or two, Jed. Thanks. Jed Rothwell wrote: Regarding the central tenet of religion, the existence of God, I have not studied this in any depth, but as far as I can tell, arguments for the existence of God are logical fal

Re: OT: Question regarding condoms

I wrote: "At the peak of fertility, a woman has only roughly a 1% chance of becoming pregnant, so if 5% of condoms fail, and a couple always uses one during every phase of intercourse, they have roughly a 0.05% chance of pregnancy from that failure, which is tantamount to zero." Oops. Not "from t

Re: OT: Question regarding condoms

Horace Heffner wrote: I have heard numbers that state some condoms are 97 percent effective, or 95 percent effective.  Anyone know exactly what this means?  To what period does this apply?  Or does it apply to one or more uses? I know what it means, but it is somewhat involved, and the numbers ar

Re: If I Were Pope

I find Jed's method of argumentation interesting, even effective, but in many cases inherently contradictory. Consider his opening sentence: " I know nothing about religion" Later he repeats himself: " I know nothing about religion." His next statement, however, pretends that he knows somet

Re: OT: "If I were Pope."

Ah!  The answer really *is* 42!   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Answer_to_Life,_the_Universe,_and_EverythingHorace Heffner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hopefully you have seen the article by Eric W Weisstein, "Semiperfect MagicCube," from Mathworld, A Wolfram Resource,_

Re: vortex Digest V2005 #161

Robin's gif     >If the drain radius is chosen smaller than the hole radius,then no water flows,and there is no vortex. If the drain radius is chosen larger then the hole radius, then water leaving at the larger radius has less kinetic energy,   What am I missing?    Flow is required to produ

Re: vortex-digest Digest V2005 #161

In reply to leaking pen's message of Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:59:53 -0700: Hi, >thank you john. its a tough concept for so many, but there are no >absolute morals. all morals are subjective to your society. simply >put, remember, in a society of cannibals, it is immoral to NOT eat >human flesh. [snip

Re: OT: "If I were Pope."

At 7:56 PM 4/5/5, Harvey Norris wrote: [snip] >Find ANY magic cube; if you think it exists. [snip] Hopefully you have seen the article by Eric W Weisstein, "Semiperfect Magic Cube," from Mathworld, A Wolfram Resource, Regards, Horace

OT: Question regarding condoms

I have heard numbers that state some condoms are 97 percent effective, or 95 percent effective. Anyone know exactly what this means? To what period does this apply? Or does it apply to one or more uses? Regards, Horace Heffner