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2008-10-07 Thread Benjamin Rozanski

Re: [Vo]:Thixotrophy and the Aether

2008-10-07 Thread Benjamin Rozanski
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Jones Beene wrote: Stephen If I can judge by Jones's rather strong denial of the validity of these classic experiments Whoa. I am not denying their validity for the limited scope which they encompass- but why extend that further ? They do have historical meanin

[Vo]:Fusor patent app

2008-10-07 Thread Mark Iverson
United States Patent Application 20080226010 Sesselmann; Steven Arnold September 18, 2008 Reactor For Producing Controlled Nuclear Fusion Abstract Method and apparatus for producing controlled steady state nuc

Re: [Vo]:An astonishingly simple model of Presidential elections

2008-10-07 Thread Harry Veeder
Sorry I meant to pass on Stephen's link to another list. Harry - Original Message - From: Harry Veeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tuesday, October 7, 2008 9:48 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:An astonishingly simple model of Presidential elections > > From another list. > Harry

Re: [Vo]:An astonishingly simple model of Presidential elections

2008-10-07 Thread Harry Veeder
>From another list. Harry >An astonishingly simple model of Presidential elections > > Here's a model developed back around 1980, which was back-tested > againstevery Presidential election back to 1860, and which has > correctlypredicted every election since it was developed (that's > six out

Re: [Vo]:Thixotrophy and the Aether

2008-10-07 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Jones Beene wrote: > Stephen > >> If I can judge by Jones's rather strong denial of the validity of >> these classic experiments > > Whoa. I am not denying their validity for the limited scope which > they encompass- but why extend that further ? They do have historical > meaning and purpos

Re: [Vo]:Thixotrophy and the Aether

2008-10-07 Thread Jones Beene
Stephen > If I can judge by Jones's rather strong denial of the validity of these > classic experiments Whoa. I am not denying their validity for the limited scope which they encompass- but why extend that further ? They do have historical meaning and purpose, but it can be easily exaggera

Re: [Vo]:Thixotrophy and the Aether

2008-10-07 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > > Jones Beene wrote: >> - Original Message From: Stephen A. Lawrence >> >> http://www.energyscience.org.uk/ >> >>> It appears to be rather large [Aspden effect]. He appears to >>> "believe in" an aether. >> ... as well he should- but his effect is not large

Re: [Vo]:air turbine

2008-10-07 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Stephen A. Lawrence's message of Tue, 07 Oct 2008 08:47:49 -0400: Hi, [snip] >I like this quote from the airturbineengine page: > >> The air we breathe is the same air that drives the AATE; no wind >> required. This is not a perpetual motion machine. > >It runs forever with no fuel or

Re: [Vo]:Thixotrophy and the Aether

2008-10-07 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Jones Beene wrote: > - Original Message From: Stephen A. Lawrence > > http://www.energyscience.org.uk/ > >> It appears to be rather large [Aspden effect]. He appears to >> "believe in" an aether. > > ... as well he should- but his effect is not large. > >> Jed (or anyone), do you kn

Re: [Vo]:GM and EPA dispute Volt's MPG rating

2008-10-07 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Tue, 7 Oct 2008 08:45:03 -0400: Hi, [snip] >There are better descriptions here: > >http://www.greencar.com/features/volt-facts/ > >Being a serial hybrid, the volt *could* be battery only for short ranges. ...but that's the very definition of a plug-in hybrid

Re: [Vo]:Thixotrophy and the Aether

2008-10-07 Thread Jones Beene
- Original Message From: Stephen A. Lawrence http://www.energyscience.org.uk/ > It appears to be rather large [Aspden effect]. He appears to "believe in" an > aether. ... as well he should- but his effect is not large. > Jed (or anyone), do you know of anyplace on his site where he

Re: [Vo]:An astonishingly simple model of Presidential elections

2008-10-07 Thread leaking pen
ohh, point, major changes. so three, becuase its an OR on the last two. On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Edmund Storms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Oct 7, 2008, at 1:50 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > > Here's a model developed back around 1980, which was back-tested against > every Presiden

Re: [Vo]:An astonishingly simple model of Presidential elections

2008-10-07 Thread Edmund Storms
On Oct 7, 2008, at 1:50 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Here's a model developed back around 1980, which was back-tested against every Presidential election back to 1860, and which has correctly predicted every election since it was developed (that's six out of six predictions made in advance

Re: [Vo]:An astonishingly simple model of Presidential elections

2008-10-07 Thread leaking pen
we can check key 11, and MAYBE key four. wow. On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 12:50 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here's a model developed back around 1980, which was back-tested against > every Presidential election back to 1860, and which has correctly > predicted every election s

[Vo]:An astonishingly simple model of Presidential elections

2008-10-07 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Here's a model developed back around 1980, which was back-tested against every Presidential election back to 1860, and which has correctly predicted every election since it was developed (that's six out of six predictions made in advance and born out): http://www.forecastingprinciples.com/Politica

Re: [Vo]:Thixotrophy and the Aether

2008-10-07 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Jed Rothwell wrote: > thomas malloy wrote: > >> Harold Aspden showed that a gyroscope composed of a magnet, when spun >> up, and then stopped, it can be returned to it's previous motion with >> way less energy than was required to set it in motion the first time. >> This is the Aspden Effect. >

Re: [Vo]:Solar panels going tubular, mon

2008-10-07 Thread Jones Beene
Meant to include the press release too: http://www.solyndra.com/News/Press-Release-01 This is a company that is only three years old and is ramping-up manufacturing to produce thin film PV *tubes* -- of a composition not unlike the better known Nanosolar. I believe it is yet another spin-off

[Vo]:Solar panels going tubular, mon

2008-10-07 Thread Jones Beene
http://www.solyndra.com/Products/More-Electricity

[VO]: Nobel Physics prize

2008-10-07 Thread R C Macaulay
Howdy Vorts, I would have preferred the descriptive wording of this press release be more scientific. When dealing with theoritical physics it is always best to describe most sub-atomic theory as theoritical imagination since science has NOT been able to confirm the explanations as claimed in t

Re: [Vo]:Thixotrophy and the Aether

2008-10-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
thomas malloy wrote: Harold Aspden showed that a gyroscope composed of a magnet, when spun up, and then stopped, it can be returned to it's previous motion with way less energy than was required to set it in motion the first time. This is the Aspden Effect. Harold Aspden is an astounding per

Re: [Vo]:Thixotropy and the Aether

2008-10-07 Thread Terry Blanton
Possibly you are speaking of the Aspden Effect? Terry On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 9:45 PM, Benjamin Rozanski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was wondering whether the effects of a spinning mass could be playing > a part. > > Bruce DePalma found that a spinning mass apperently gains energy. > > Could th

Re: [Vo]:air turbine

2008-10-07 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
I like this quote from the airturbineengine page: > The air we breathe is the same air that drives the AATE; no wind > required. This is not a perpetual motion machine. It runs forever with no fuel or energy input, using air but without requiring wind (or, by implication, a temperature differenti

Re: [Vo]:GM and EPA dispute Volt's MPG rating

2008-10-07 Thread Terry Blanton
There are better descriptions here: http://www.greencar.com/features/volt-facts/ Being a serial hybrid, the volt *could* be battery only for short ranges. Terry On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Robin van Spaandonk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In reply to Stephen A. Lawrence's message of Mon, 06

Re: [Vo]:the air turbine

2008-10-07 Thread R C Macaulay
Howdy Robin, In Lost Wages, as we call Las Vegas, the Roulette wheel is the money maker. The air turbine is only a minor competitor. This turbine idea has been around for years. First clue to the fantasy is the 30,000 RPM speed of the turbine. They enclose the blades in a acrylic housing to vie