Re: [Vo]:Wind energy breakthrough

2009-05-05 Thread mixent
In reply to grok's message of Mon, 4 May 2009 20:55:19 -0700: Hi, [snip] I know nothing about your reactor, Robin. If you feel like describing it here, I wouldn't mind following along. But remember: I'm no rocket scientist, like youse all. [snip] I'm no rocket scientist either. My reactor would

Re: [Vo]:Wind energy breakthrough

2009-05-05 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, mix...@bigpond.com mix...@bigpond.com mounted the barricade and roared out: I know nothing about your reactor, Robin. If you feel like describing it here, I wouldn't mind following along. But remember: I'm no rocket

Re: [Vo]:Park back peddles...

2009-05-05 Thread Michel Jullian
Thanks Jones for the additional details and for your wise words. BTW even though I don't approve of the elephant electrocuting method, Edison was perfectly right: at equal voltages DC is much less dangerous than 60Hz AC: - body resistance must be roughly the same in DC and 60Hz AC, so equal

Re: [Vo]:Latest from Mylow

2009-05-05 Thread OrionWorks
From: Harry Veeder Mylow demonstrates his magnetic motor on a table with a glass top: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvMbgGcHeEYfeature=channel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMdwL7bBmGEfeature=channel The stator magnets (at the upper left of the assembly) consist of two horseshoe magnets in

Re: [Vo]:Wind energy breakthrough

2009-05-05 Thread Mike Carrell
grock, the BLP website is carefully constructed with tutorials, animations, and summaries, plus free access to Mills massive magnum opus and lists of published papers, plus power point presentation packages. The summary statements are backed by experimental results. It does take study. Mills'

[Vo]:Rough comparison of cold fusion Pd to UO2

2009-05-05 Thread Jed Rothwell
I would appreciate it if someone could check my arithmetic. Roulette data from: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RouletteTresultsofi.pdf UO2 data from ANS and the source Terry found. 1 pellet of UO2 fuel weighs 7 g and produces as much as 3.5 bbl of oil. 3.5 bbl = 147 gallons. As 131 MJ/gallon

Re: [Vo]:Latest from Mylow

2009-05-05 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message - From: OrionWorks svj.orionwo...@gmail.com Date: Tuesday, May 5, 2009 9:13 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Latest from Mylow From: Harry Veeder Mylow demonstrates his magnetic motor on a table with a glass top: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvMbgGcHeEYfeature=channel

[Vo]:Re: [LABOR-L] Time to move to Montana

2009-05-05 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Montana Governor Sign Stunning New Gun Law http://www.rense.com/general85/mont.htm Hmmm... A showdown over states' rights... I wonder where this all leads. - -- grok. - -- Build the North America-wide General Strike. TODO el poder

Re: [Vo]:Latest from Mylow

2009-05-05 Thread OrionWorks
From Harry Veeder: Somewhere he said the bar magnets came from radioshack. I would like to see him cover the Aluminum disk with something non-magnetic. Yes, indeed! I tracked down some additional info on the subject. A very good description of Mylow's detailed explorations of the HJ

RE: [Vo]:Rough comparison of cold fusion Pd to UO2

2009-05-05 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: That is because there are a number of untenable assumptions in going from power to energy over the long term, and this makes the figures you are using essentially meaningless to any scientist. I believe you are overstating your point. The comparison is rough as I said, but

Re: [Vo]:Latest from Mylow

2009-05-05 Thread Michel Jullian
2009/5/5 OrionWorks svj.orionwo...@gmail.com: ...eddies within the rotating aluminum disk... Ah, is he? (your comment called for this Arthur Dent quote didn't it Steven ;-) More seriously, 36 hours is no big feat, a simple pendulum can run much longer than that while swapping potential energy

Re: [Vo]:Latest from Mylow

2009-05-05 Thread OrionWorks
From Michel: 2009/5/5 OrionWorks svj.orionwo...@gmail.com: ...eddies within the rotating aluminum disk... Ah, is he? (your comment called for this Arthur Dent quote didn't it Steven ;-) You've got me in the cross-hairs, Michel. I doubt my clunky prose will ever be as eloquent as Douglas

Re: [Vo]:Latest from Mylow

2009-05-05 Thread Terry Blanton
Lenz effect: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenz's_law If anything, it will impede the motion of the motor. Terry On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 3:03 PM, OrionWorks svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: From Michel: 2009/5/5 OrionWorks svj.orionwo...@gmail.com: ...eddies within the rotating aluminum

[Vo]:Kitamura et al. to try a larger sample soon

2009-05-05 Thread Jed Rothwell
Regarding this paper: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/KitamuraAmdemetalde.pdf On p. 19 it says: Clearer results of heat evolution will be obtained also by increasing the amount of samples. p. 18 The small sample size bothers me. As I noted here before, the relatively low absolute power, ~180

Re: [Vo]:Latest from Mylow

2009-05-05 Thread OrionWorks
Terry Sez: Lenz effect: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenz's_law If anything, it will impede the motion of the motor. Indeed, methinks that's a logical assumption. I was looking at the same Wiki link. Nevertheless, the alnico magnets are slowly demagnetizing. My suspicion is that the

Re: [Vo]:Latest from Mylow

2009-05-05 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message - From: Michel Jullian michelj...@gmail.com Date: Tuesday, May 5, 2009 2:21 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Latest from Mylow 2009/5/5 OrionWorks svj.orionwo...@gmail.com: ...eddies within the rotating aluminum disk... Ah, is he? (your comment called for this Arthur Dent

Re: [Vo]:Wind energy breakthrough

2009-05-05 Thread mixent
In reply to grok's message of Tue, 5 May 2009 00:58:45 -0700: Hi, [snip] I'm no rocket scientist either. My reactor would either use deuterium or hydrogen, according to the reactions previously described here:- D + D - He4 (with luck), otherwise D + D - T + P

Re: [Vo]:Rough comparison of cold fusion Pd to UO2

2009-05-05 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Tue, 05 May 2009 10:49:05 -0400: Hi, [snip] I would appreciate it if someone could check my arithmetic. Roulette data from: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RouletteTresultsofi.pdf UO2 data from ANS and the source Terry found. 1 pellet of UO2 fuel weighs 7

Re: [Vo]:Latest from Mylow

2009-05-05 Thread Terry Blanton
Frankly, I think things are happening off camera. My opinion, I could be wrong. All tests performed by my group show that you must eliminate as many conductors from the magnetic motor as possible. I'll consider replication when we see some independent testimony from one who has seen the motor

Re: [Vo]:Latest from Mylow

2009-05-05 Thread Mike Carrell
I finally looked at the Mylow video. There have been many attempts at something like this. Some years ago there was the SMOT, featuring a ball bearing and a ramp between two magnets. There was seeming sincerity on the part of its inventor, but the end was disappointment. There have been

RE: [Vo]:Latest from Mylow

2009-05-05 Thread Mark Iverson
Unfortunately, the iron stator magnet does not hold its charge very well (an inherent issue with that type of magnet in any context), ... [deletions] Mylow said that there is a shop near him that he takes his stator magnet to re-magnetize it. Correct me if I missed something, but the

Re: [Vo]:Latest from Mylow

2009-05-05 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, Mark Iverson zeropo...@charter.net mounted the barricade and roared out: Why the different magnets? There was some mention of asymmetry involved... is it asymmetric with respect to magnet material? Did he try using

Re: [Vo]:Latest from Mylow

2009-05-05 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message - From: OrionWorks svj.orionwo...@gmail.com Date: Tuesday, May 5, 2009 4:28 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Latest from Mylow Terry Sez: Lenz effect: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenz's_law If anything, it will impede the motion of the motor. Indeed, methinks

Re: [Vo]:Latest from Mylow

2009-05-05 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, Harry Veeder hvee...@ncf.ca mounted the barricade and roared out: Do you think your group might be able to test this hypothesis? ... One might also trying using the plastic disk with and without a layer of aluminium foil.