Re: [Vo]:BlackLight Power announces 6th commercial license July 30, 2009

2009-08-02 Thread Horace Heffner
On Aug 1, 2009, at 11:43 AM, Mike Carrell wrote: Mills has pledged to post progess as possible, and he has done so. It is probable that as BLP progesses on their current path, a firestorm of criticism and opposition may emerge, and BLP must be prepared for it. Remember the story of the

Re: [Vo]:Casimir cavity boilers

2009-08-02 Thread Horace Heffner
Better formatted text of this will be maintained at: http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/CasimirBoiler.pdf Casimir Boiler Horace Heffner August 1, 2009 OBJECTIVE The purpose here is to provide a means of extracting energy upon demand from the zero point field (ZPF), by

Re: [Vo]:OT: The Abduction Paradigm

2009-08-02 Thread Kyle Mcallister
--- On Sat, 8/1/09, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote: state of mind. If you're going to use English to communicate with others, please use the words to mean what we all agree that they mean. snip time is not a state of mind. snip A country mile is not an hour. snip And

RE: [Vo]:Casimir cavity boilers

2009-08-02 Thread Jones Beene
Horace, This is very provocative. Perhaps a simple static (pressure differential) experiment could be 'telling' without going all the way to dynamic circuit... IOW is flow through really necessary, given that Raney nickel could provide the necessary cavities, in a static colloid, so that normal

Re: [Vo]:BlackLight Power announces 6th commercial license July 30, 2009

2009-08-02 Thread Mike Carrell
By any reasonable standard, Mills should succeed if he surmounts the present technical problem, application of acquired knowledge to a 'water engine' that delivers useful power. That will be unprecedented. Because nobody else has done it, and the path to it is through his magnum opus, GUTCP,

Re: [Vo]:Casimir force at slab edges

2009-08-02 Thread Mauro Lacy
Hi Thanks for this post about Hotson's ideas. Don't know about you, but to me, everything is starting to make a lot of sense. Please take into account that when Hotson says 'imaginary direction' you can read '4th spatial dimension'. And when, relativistically it's said 'time dilation' or 'time

RE: [Vo]:Casimir force at slab edges

2009-08-02 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Mauro Lacy Please take into account that when Hotson says 'imaginary direction' you can read '4th spatial dimension'. Are you familiar with the Dirac concept of reciprocal space? ... or rather, like so many things that have been updated in order to bring

Re: [Vo]:OT The Abduction Paradigm

2009-08-02 Thread Chris Zell
Without commenting on individual abduction cases, the general descriptions of aliens fits what I would expect from an extremely advanced technological culture.  Such as:   Minimized Individuality ( or none!)  Take a good look at our technology and consider that we have progressed from spears to

Re: [Vo]:OT: The Abduction Paradigm

2009-08-02 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Kyle Mcallister wrote: --- On Sat, 8/1/09, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote: state of mind. If you're going to use English to communicate with others, please use the words to mean what we all agree that they mean. snip time is not a state of mind. snip A country mile

Re: [Vo]:OT: The Abduction Paradigm

2009-08-02 Thread OrionWorks
From Mr Lawrance: You don't sound like an annoying broken record. To be blunt, you sound silly, asking that. I don't think there's any disagreement at all over what would constitute an authentic alien artifact -- it would be a piece of litter left by an authentic alien, and an authentic

Re: [Vo]:OT: The Abduction Paradigm

2009-08-02 Thread OrionWorks
From Mr. Lawrence, ... Just some idle off-the-wall speculation follows...a fable of sorts: ... They pondered these issues for a millennium or two, or perhaps it was for only a couple of microseconds - time can be such an ephemeral state of mind. If you're going to use English to

Re: [Vo]:Casimir force at slab edges

2009-08-02 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Mauro Lacy wrote: I was thinking recently that it's not enough for gravity to be explained merely as a consequence of a distortion of space. It's not a distortion of space, it's a distortion of spaceTIME, and the difference is extremely important. The metric in 4-dimensional spacetime is

[Vo]:monatomic vs noble gas

2009-08-02 Thread Frank
[Snip] On Jul 23, 2009, at 6:01 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: By the way, the patent which apparently started Frank off on this, and the effort to produce a device based on it, are described here: http://peswiki.com/index.php/ [Snip] It's an interesting concept: squash atoms through tiny

Re: [Vo]:OT: The Abduction Paradigm

2009-08-02 Thread Terry Blanton
One of the most well-known and examined artifacts is from the crash at Ubatuba, Brazil: http://ufologie.net/htm/ubatuba57.htm The examination of some of the material: http://www.nicap.org/ubatubanal.htm Terry On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Stephen A. Lawrencesa...@pobox.com wrote:

Re: [Vo]:OT: The Abduction Paradigm

2009-08-02 Thread OrionWorks
From Mr. Zell, Without commenting on individual abduction cases, the general descriptions of aliens fits what I would expect from an extremely advanced technological culture. Such as: Minimized Individuality ( or none!) Take a good look at our technology and consider that we have

Re: [Vo]:OT: The Abduction Paradigm

2009-08-02 Thread OrionWorks
From Mr. Lawrence: ... I was objecting to a discussion of the *definition* of an alien artifact, not to the question of whether we've got some. And it is also quite possible that I totally missed your point. Let's go back to some previous comments in an attempt to pick up our discussions

Re: [Vo]:OT: The Abduction Paradigm

2009-08-02 Thread OrionWorks
From Mr. Blanton: One of the most well-known and examined artifacts is from the crash at Ubatuba, Brazil: http://ufologie.net/htm/ubatuba57.htm The examination of some of the material: http://www.nicap.org/ubatubanal.htm Excerpt: These tests indicated that the material was very pure

Re: [Vo]:OT: The Abduction Paradigm

2009-08-02 Thread Terry Blanton
There are distinct physical aspects common among many experiencers which are known by investigators but are not shared with the public. It serves as a test of the experience. It has to do with the surroundings seen by the victim and certain events that occur during the examination. AFAIK,

Re: [Vo]:Casimir force at slab edges

2009-08-02 Thread Harry Veeder
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Gravity is *NOT* a force in GR theory, of course, and a body in free fall follows a geodesic. I read the principle equivalence as implying gravity is either a force OR a geodesic path depending on the situation. It is a force (weight) when a body is subjected to

Re: [Vo]:OT: The Abduction Paradigm

2009-08-02 Thread OrionWorks
From Mr. Blanton, There are distinct physical aspects common among many experiencers which are known by investigators but are not shared with the public. It serves as a test of the experience. It has to do with the surroundings seen by the victim and certain events that occur during the

[Vo]:Test - Ignore

2009-08-02 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Test Ignore Trying a new email setting. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:OT: The Abduction Paradigm

2009-08-02 Thread Edmund Storms
Steven, it really helps not to have a ready made explanation, such as you have, when evaluating the UFO events. Such expected notions cause a person to reject data, perhaps subconsciously. For example, you would like the phenomenon to involve some kind multi-dimensional reality. You then

Re: [Vo]:Casimir force at slab edges

2009-08-02 Thread Mauro Lacy
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Mauro Lacy wrote: I was thinking recently that it's not enough for gravity to be explained merely as a consequence of a distortion of space. It's not a distortion of space, it's a distortion of spaceTIME, and the difference is extremely important.

Re: [Vo]:Casimir force at slab edges

2009-08-02 Thread Mauro Lacy
Jones Beene wrote: -Original Message- From: Mauro Lacy Please take into account that when Hotson says 'imaginary direction' you can read '4th spatial dimension'. Are you familiar with the Dirac concept of reciprocal space? No, but I'll read about it. Reciprocal space

Re: [Vo]:OT: The Abduction Paradigm

2009-08-02 Thread Terry Blanton
Ackshully, it was Budd Hopkins who first was criticized for extensive use of hypnotic recall, (Witnessed the case of Linda Cortile (Napolitano)). But, then again, Dr. John Mack used a similar, although somewhat far-eastern version of hypnosis. John, G-d rest his soul, also believed, much like

RE: [Vo]:OT: The Abduction Paradigm

2009-08-02 Thread Jeff Fink
Years ago Ripley's Believe it or Not reported that a person went out in their yard one day and found a small pile of metal pieces all shaped like the letter E. What were they? How did they get there? Could they be of alien origin? They offered no answer. Anybody want to guess? Think about

Re: [Vo]:OT: The Abduction Paradigm

2009-08-02 Thread Edmund Storms
On Aug 2, 2009, at 8:01 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: From Mr. Storms Steven, it really helps not to have a ready made explanation, such as you have, when evaluating the UFO events. Such expected notions cause a person to reject data, perhaps subconsciously. For example, you