Presumably the external band heater is necessary for the smaller E-cat because
the internal heater cannot provide enough heat at start up unlike the internal
heater
of the larger E-cat. So while the external _heater_ may not be necessary, the
extra
_heat_ is necessary for start-up.
A
More like 6 minutes than 6 months - for nanopowder degradation from current
flow
-Original Message-
From: mix...@bigpond.com
As I understand the dynamics of this situation, one cannot pass a current
through a nanopowder without promoting instant agglomeration - which over
time
From: Axil Axil
* The Principle of operation: (the secret process that makes the Cat-E go)
between the small 2.5 kw reactor in which the band heater is used and the 10
kw Cat-E in which only the internal heater is used is the same.
There is no evidence for that at all. If anything,
Scott,
Nice post but you assigned the hydrino theory to Haisch and
Moddel - I made the same error early on and was taken to task by both
Professor Moddel and Dr Haisch- they use noble gas, much larger - weaker .1u
geometry and no chemistry based on a theory they call Lamb Pinch.
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Everything seen so far – when exposed looks nearly identical, and the only
reason to suggest that there ever was a larger model is for Rossi to hide
the fact that the results of the January test (Focardi tribute) were wet
steam and three times more than
On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 12:15 AM, Mark Iverson zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
Do we have any idea on what kinds of voltages the heaters are being subjected
to???
Assuming no transforming of the mains, only rectification, the peak
voltage would 2^-2 x 230 or ~325 V.
T
Jones
http://www.rle.mit.edu/media/pr147/33.pdf
Is there such a beast as an electrothermal diode?
Woah! If thermal diodes exist, wouldn't the little buggers violate the laws
of thermodynamics? Seems to me it would be Kinda like finding a convenient
Maxewll Demon mechanism. Wouldn't thermal
So when did Levi authorize you to speak for him?
After all, Levi is no longer independent, and is apparently Rossi's top
technical advisor. Plus, he has every incentive to be disingenuous on this
point - since he does not want to be blamed for the gross measurement error.
The results in
Hello Jed
Do you know if there is a independent report about the flow test in February in
which the water was not heated to the boilingpoint?
Peter
- Original Message -
From: Jed Rothwell
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:RE:
OK - Not sure exactly how (or if) - this paper can be related to the Rossi
device, which was why I sent it alone - but there is a vague notion that
what Hagelstein has labeled weakly n-type bulk layer could be the Rossi
supported nickel nanopowder filled with spillover H - to make it
One further point - the dimensions of the bulge only on the smallest
device - the one with the ruler scale as seen in the images indicate the
bulge is 7 cm in length and about the same 7 cm in diameter or ~260 cc in
volume, maybe more. That is without the long flanges.
If one trusted observer
Jones sez:
...
I know, it is too bizarre to mention in polite company, but where is the
sanity in a great society like our own that pays out millions for a stupid
horse race, or an illiterate baseball star, and yet cannot support basic
RD
in this vitally important field This technology
Jones sez:
...
I know, it is too bizarre to mention in polite company, but where is the
sanity in a great society like our own that pays out millions for a
stupid
horse race, or an illiterate baseball star, and yet cannot support basic
RD
in this vitally important field This
On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 11:37 AM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
orionwo...@charter.net wrote:
I'm steamed.
Don't be steamed, be steam punked. Steam power is seeing a
renaissance today even without Rossi. Here are several steam punked
devices including a steam powered PC:
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
So when did Levi authorize you to speak for him?
That's what he said; take it or leave it. When did you look inside the
machine?
The results in February cannot be trusted because of incorrect thermocouple
placement.
That can't be. A 5 deg C
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
If one trusted observer (namely Levi) were to have been given a quick peek
inside the original device, back in January
1. It was not a quick peek. Who told you it was quick?
2. Others saw it too.
3. What difference does it make whether it was January,
If we go back to Akira's original sketch:
http://i.imgur.com/llVoU.png
where the external heater is in contact with supported Ni nanopowder, and
the device operates as a thermal diode, then we have solved two huge
conceptual problems: the first being - why do we need applied heat input at
all,
Well I can see that Rothwell is in now full retreat - since he has started
to distort the facts to conform with his prior erroneous assumptions -
rather than doing the basic reality check and admitting that he could be
wrong.
There is no 50 CC which is relevant. There is no factuality in the
If 500 cc volume were true...
A cubed shaped reaction chamber with a volume of 50 CC that can produce a
130,000 kw heat spike would radiate at a power of 1 kilowatt per square
centimeter give or take.
The absolute black body radiation temperature of such a vessel would be
17,636,684,303
It is clear now that both of these tests were juvenile efforts at
calorimetry - below high school standards...
If Steorn, with a bunch of engineers working for it, could make a
measurement error and not spot it for a year or more, and have to
have it pointed out to them by an outside engineer,
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
There is no “50 CC” which is relevant. There is no factuality in the
Rothwell appraisal of what others saw, or what he has heard that they saw
That should be: What they told me and what they stated publicly they saw.
If Beene does not believe Levi,
peatbog peat...@teksavvy.com wrote:
It is clear now that both of these tests were juvenile efforts at
calorimetry - below high school standards...
That's not a bit clear. This is industry standard calorimetry for heating
systems of this size. These procedures are done hundreds of thousands
I am not sure about the size of E-Cat's stomach, but the foil covered animal
from janurary appears to be slightly longer from nose to tail
than the march/april animal.
Harry
From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, May 8, 2011 12:38:29 PM
Subject: RE:
- Original Message
From: peatbog peat...@teksavvy.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, May 8, 2011 1:00:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Only one size E-Cat?
If Steorn, with a bunch of engineers working for it, could make a
measurement error and not spot it for a year or more, and
The patent application shows the water flowing around a cell inside a pipe.
Rossi claims this is the present configuration. Storms and others suspect
the water flows through the middle of a torus-shaped cell.
There are three possibilities here: this configuration may be immaterial, or
important,
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/05/aviation-geeks-scramble-to-i-d-osama-raids-mystery-copter/
Some speculated designs:
http://defensetech.org/2011/05/04/what-the-secret-bin-laden-raid-helo-might-look-like/
T
On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/05/aviation-geeks-scramble-to-i-d-osama-raids-mystery-copter/
Some speculated designs:
http://defensetech.org/2011/05/04/what-the-secret-bin-laden-raid-helo-might-look-like/
Like the
A question about patents…
If the nickel catalyst turns out to be pure nickel nano-powder, but
processed and prepared in a special way…
Let’s say it is bombarded with fast high energy ions that produce many
defects in the lattice structure of nickel nano-powder. Is the powder
patentable or is
As pointed out previously, there is excellent short document describing this
issue here:
http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/documents/2100_2165.htm
QUOTE:
The failure to disclose a better method will not invalidate a patent if the
inventor, at the time of filing the application, did not
A person can believe anything, but you do not have a rational
reason for believing this particular assertion. You cannot show
how or why they are mired in confusion, or point to any likely
error in their technique.
As I understand it, Rossi is claiming to do something that people
who know
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
Let’s say it is bombarded with fast high energy ions that produce many
defects in the lattice structure of nickel nano-powder. Is the powder
patentable or is the ion processing of the powder.
If the same ion processing is done to copper nano-powder, is
peatbog peat...@teksavvy.com wrote:
As I understand it, Rossi is claiming to do something that people
who know a lot about this sort of thing believe is not possible.
Not quite. Rossi and several hundred others have published definitive proof
that they are doing something that some other
Our favorite blogger implies today that UoB is about to speak . . .
or, at least, that's how I interpreted it.
http://22passi.blogspot.com/
If it purrs like a duck . . .
T
On 2011-05-08 21:29, Terry Blanton wrote:
Our favorite blogger implies today that UoB is about to speak . . .
or, at least, that's how I interpreted it.
http://22passi.blogspot.com/
About to speak *soon*, apparently.
As for *how* soon, however, we aren't allowed to know yet.
It's speculated
Where did the 130,000 kW come from? Levi reported 130 kW for a brief period.
Levi only reported that he saw the OUTSIDE of the reactor ... presumably a
longer version of the bulge in the nekkid mini eCat.
Essen and Kullander accepted ROSSI's statement that the current reactor is
50cc. All
That's the first report listing the observers for the February 18-hour test:
Giuseppe Levi
Andrea Rossi
Daniele Passerini
David Bianchini === must be Jed's source close to the test !
- Original Message -
From: Terry Blanton
Sent: Sunday, May 8, 2011 12:29:39 PM
Subject: [Vo]:22
So Sorry, I had an order of magnitude error. But the point still applies.
The point I was trying to make was that the 130 kw heat spike could not come
from a reactor vessel with a limited surface area of a reaction vessel the
size of a golf ball without melting. That heat spike must have only come
On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 3:09 AM, Harry Veeder hlvee...@yahoo.com wrote:
NASA Working on LENR Replication and Theory Confirmation
http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2011/05/06/nasa-working-on-lenr-replication-and-theory-confirmation/
I finally got a chance to listen to the podcast:
Hi,
On 7-5-2011 22:26, Akira Shirakawa wrote:
They've already put references to the Italian patent approved last
month but that only recently (in the last couple days) people
discovered. I don't think they would have done that without the
exposure on Wikipedia and other channels (maybe even
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Sun, 8 May 2011 15:29:39 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
Our favorite blogger implies today that UoB is about to speak . . .
or, at least, that's how I interpreted it.
http://22passi.blogspot.com/
If it purrs like a duck . . .
T
...if looks could kill..;)
Regards,
-Original Message-
From: mix...@bigpond.com In reply to Terry Blanton's message
If NASA succeeds in getting excess energy, how are they going to prove that
WL
is responsible, rather than some other theory?
Hmm ... let Krivit report the results ... ?g?
Hi,
On 8-5-2011 2:39, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote:
Anyone notice the Fraud warning message posted at the Defkalion web site?
Yep,
Did some digging in this, it seems there are 45 registered domain-names
that are involved in this fraud.
Sofar none of them is active anymore.
But
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sun, 8 May 2011 16:07:23 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
So Sorry, I had an order of magnitude error. But the point still applies.
The point I was trying to make was that the 130 kw heat spike could not come
from a reactor vessel with a limited surface area of a reaction
I surfed on gas centrifuges and two models were mentioned. One was about
solid body rotation and the other about a pancake model.
The physics in a gas centrifuge is very complex.
Can anyone liste all the effects taking place? Just the adiabatic heat
gradient there must be enormous.
David
David
Terry sez:
orionwo...@charter.net wrote:
I'm steamed.
Don't be steamed, be steam punked. Steam power is seeing a
renaissance today even without Rossi. Here are several steam punked
devices including a steam powered PC:
This reminds me Andrea Rossis claim, that he invented a thermoelectrical
element with 20% efficacy. Saw it here:
http://esowatch.com/en/index.php?title=Focardi-Rossi_Energy-Catalyzer#Leonardo_Technologies_Inc.
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Hi,
On 9-5-2011 1:50, Angela Kemmler wrote:
not only energycatalyzer.us was deleted. The same day disappeared also
rossiportal.com. Is there a link? Days ago I made screenshots of all the pages.
Here is the list with 45 sites:
http://www.energycatalyzer.us
http://www.energycatalyzers.us
Hi,
On 9-5-2011 1:50, Angela Kemmler wrote:
not only energycatalyzer.us was deleted. The same day disappeared also
rossiportal.com. Is there a link? Days ago I made screenshots of all
the pages.
Not as far as I can tell; http://www.rossiportal.com/ (or
A Muller inspired Motor/Generator powering it's self suspended in air...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iNrjKFSLu4
BTW, that thing dangling is an Electrolytic cap, not a battery.
He has shared most of the construction details and is holding nothing back.
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 12:13 PM, John Berry aethe...@gmail.com wrote:
A Muller inspired Motor/Generator powering it's self suspended in air...
The ion processing of powders is the work seeking protection, the element used
would not be limiting.
The burden is whether this particular processing would be obvious to someone
schooled in the art. In that case, no patent would issue.
- Original Message -
From: Axil Axil
To:
The orientation of the magnets reminds me of Thane Heins' Perepiteia.
Harry
From: John Berry aethe...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, May 8, 2011 8:18:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Self Running Free Energy
BTW, that thing dangling is an Electrolytic cap, not a battery.
He has shared most
On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 7:50 PM, Angela Kemmler angela.kemm...@gmx.de wrote:
not only energycatalyzer.us was deleted. The same day disappeared also
rossiportal.com. Is there a link? Days ago I made screenshots of all the
pages.
I have spoken to Krivit. He has a glitch on rossiportal.com.
Yes the similarity is striking, in many ways ...
-Original Message-
From: Angela Kemmler
This reminds me Andrea Rossis claim, that he invented a thermoelectrical
element with 20% efficacy. Saw it here:
A Muller inspired Motor/Generator powering it's self suspended in air...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iNrjKFSLu4
What are the details? ...it's history. How much energy does it allegedly
generate?
Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
10 watts.
Ironic that the one thing which can nullify the significance of the Rossi
invention is an even more 'impossible' invention which is not only
self-powering, which the E-Cat is not, but also with excess electrical power
instead of heat.
Which is not to say that this is not a repeat of
From MoB:
Here is the list with 45 [phishing] sites:
[snip]
Gak! Gag me with a spoon!
Ya know... It's kind of weird to see so many phishing expeditions attempting to
steal investors away from an official website that many consider equally
dubious! ;-)
Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
CLaNZeR is revisiting the very first claim by Steorn
by constructing his own very well built apparatus.
In his latest video he notes some unusual speeding up and slowing down...(or is
it just a glitch...?)
Automated PM-Orbo Rig Part 14
Details: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/EVGRAYTOO/files/ (join up to
access pdf)
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/EVGRAYTOO/files/
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3842.0
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=10705.msg285087#new
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3842.0
On
What a waste of valuable domain names. Please don't confuse my site
http://e-cat.us/ as a scam or phishing site.
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