Re: [Vo]:Ecatreport part 2

2011-07-13 Thread Damon Craig
The plot thickens. It may very well be that the device doesn't have to deliver more energy than put into it. It may have a market even if it fails this criterion. I get odd feeling that Mr. Rossi may not know the difference. On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Akira Shirakawa

Re: [Vo]:Ecatreport part 2

2011-07-13 Thread Damon Craig
What does NASA have to say about this? On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: http://ecatreport.com/e-cat/andrea-rossi-on-the-e-cat-part-22 *The management team of both Defkalion and AmpEnergo will meet on the 14th July (2011) together with NASA...*

Re: [Vo]:Ecatreport part 2

2011-07-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
Damon Craig wrote: The plot thickens. It may very well be that the device doesn't have to deliver more energy than put into it. What the heck are you talking about?!? Of course it delivers more than you put into it. This is a peculiar thing to say. It may have a market even if it fails

RE: [Vo]:Ecatreport part 2

2011-07-13 Thread Mark Iverson
Another tidbit, but from part 1 of 2... The post-reaction analysis shows a copper isotope ratio of Cu 63/Cu 65 ~ 1.6, while the natural occurrence show a ratio of Cu 63/Cu 65 ~ 2.24 which is a statistically significant difference. That, of course, excludes contamination as an explanation of

RE: [Vo]:Ecatreport part 2

2011-07-13 Thread Mark Iverson
Smaller is not necessarily better... here's an interesting tidbit from the ecatreport. Andrea Rossi stresses that, although one might first think the finer the better because the finer the powder the more surface area per volume you get, this is not the case. Because in order to reach useful

Re: [Vo]:Ecatreport part 2

2011-07-13 Thread Harry Veeder
Didn't you know this contradicts  Sven Kullander's statement that the post reaction sample ratio Cu 63/Cu 65 ~ 2.24? When asked about this in his blog several weeks ago, Rossi said Kullander is right. So Rossi continues to supply the media with conflicting  information.   Harry From: Mark

Re: [Vo]:Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement

2011-07-13 Thread Alan J Fletcher
Krivit has modified his statement : Professors Sven Kullander, retired from Uppsala University, and Hanno Essén, with the Royal Institute of Technology, endorsed Rossi’s claimed technology in a news story on Feb. 23, 2011, before they had seen or inspected the device *** on March 29. *** But he

Re: [Vo]:Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement

2011-07-13 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 06:26 PM 7/12/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: [KRIVIT] Professors Sven Kullander, retired from Uppsala University, and Hanno Essén, with the Royal Institute of Technology, endorsed Rossi’s claimed technology in a news story on Feb. 23, 2011, before they had seen or inspected the device.

Re: [Vo]:Ecatreport part 2

2011-07-13 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 05:25 AM 7/13/2011, Damon Craig wrote: What does NASA have to say about this? On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Alan J Fletcher mailto:a...@well.coma...@well.com wrote: http://ecatreport.com/e-cat/andrea-rossi-on-the-e-cat-part-22http://ecatreport.com/e-cat/andrea-rossi-on-the-e-cat-part-22

Re: [Vo]:Ecatreport part 2

2011-07-13 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 08:55 PM 7/12/2011, Akira Shirakawa wrote: On 2011-07-13 02:31, Alan J Fletcher wrote: http://ecatreport.com/e-cat/andrea-rossi-on-the-e-cat-part-22 The following excerpt from the above interview is wow news to me. Is NASA going to get actively involved with Rossi? Wow again if true:

[Vo]:Not working again

2011-07-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
A couple of messages did not go through. We should give serious consideration to moving this discussion group to a new ISP. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:UFOs Over London

2011-07-13 Thread Terry Blanton
Are some UFOs organic? Bova, et al, wrote of sentient atmospheric beings of Jupiter. Do they exist here. This article provides some evidence: http://mysteriousuniverse.org/2011/07/atmospheric-monsters-attack/ T

Re: [Vo]:Ecatreport part 2

2011-07-13 Thread Axil Axil
Rossi is using tubercles to increase the cross-section of his reaction well over what can be produced in a well ordered nickel lattice. A tubercle is a mound created on the metal’s surface. Rossi is using these tubercles to disrupt the regularity of the nickel lattice to increase the strength of

Re: [Vo]:Ecatreport part 2

2011-07-13 Thread Rich Murray
http://ecatreport.com/e-cat/andrea-rossi-on-the-e-cat-part-22 Below follows a stylized E-Cat QA section part 2 /2 from the interview with Andrea Rossi in Stockholm, 5th July 2011 ...Question: Finally, how do you measure the amount of non-vaporized water in the steam? Answer: This has

Re: [Vo]:Ecatreport part 2

2011-07-13 Thread Rich Murray
iridescent -- my phonetic spelling terrible this 24 hours, sitting beside my wife Sondra in Physicians Medical Center Hospital in Santa Fe, New Mexico, and for another 48 hours, after her successful R hip replacement yesterday morning, anterior surgery from the front of the thigh in less than an

[Vo]:Levi's likely attitude

2011-07-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
People wonder why Levi has not given out more information about the 18-hour flowing water test. I wish he would publish a detailed report listing the type of flowmeter and so on. It is annoying to me that he has not. I expect Levi and the others consider that test irrefutable. So do I. If I had

Re: [Vo]:test

2011-07-13 Thread Andrea Selva
Me too 2011/7/12 Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.com Been unable to post from home or work since Sunday

Re: [Vo]:Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement

2011-07-13 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
There is the following from: http://ecatreport.com/rossi/andrea-rossi-on-the-e-cat-part-12 Excerpt: Andrea Rossi on letting some universities test the E-Cat Rossi went to Uppsala, Sweden the 4th to 5th of July 2011 in order to enter an agreement with Uppsala University enabling them to do

Re: [Vo]:Ecatreport part 2

2011-07-13 Thread Rich Murray
damnest nonsense I've ever seen -- I still hope that amid the mass ascension of varied hot air balloons all over, that at least one reproducible little CF effect emerges, however humble, as the catalyst for a mass stampede of scientists... but, mostly, expect irredescent popping bubbles...

Re: [Vo]:test

2011-07-13 Thread Peter Gluck
I also had this problem Peter On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 12:35 AM, Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.com wrote: Been unable to post from home or work since Sunday -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

[Vo]:Crticism of black box thinking

2011-07-13 Thread Harry Veeder
If we apply the logic of the block box to the eCat then it is possible to argue it is a hoax even if the output is only dry steam. This is based on the assumption that it is theoretically possible to use a 600-700 watt resistance heater to transform a water flow of 7 liters/hours

Re: [Vo]:Reports of tritium production from Rossi-like experiments

2011-07-13 Thread Michele Comitini
Interesting... the page has been removed from 22passi! Mic Il giorno 12/lug/2011 20:56, Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com ha scritto: Hello group, It looks like there have been interesting news on the (private) CMNS mailing list as of late. Passerini in his latest post on his 22passi

Re: [Vo]:Crticism of black box thinking

2011-07-13 Thread Harry Veeder
Damn, I was hoping my post below would not make it to vortex. ;-) It was my last foolish effort to persuade myself that Rossi is not a scammer. I was prepared to let Rossi's past misdeeds remain in the past, however Rossi's odd behaviour in the present combined with his highly dubious