Re: [Vo]:Basil Hiley Comments on Theoreticians and Experimental Science

2014-01-12 Thread James Bowery
I wonder what would have happened if terrorists had killed all of the faculty of all of the Ivy League schools, including CalTech on April 15, 1989. On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 1:48 AM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: The lack of realism, combined with ignorance of the theoretical

Re: [Vo]:Basil Hiley Comments on Theoreticians and Experimental Science

2014-01-12 Thread Alain Sepeda
Beaudette blames the US nuclear physicists , deified after Manhattan project, used with easy experimental setup where things always works the same... even nuclear experimentalist are too theoretical compared to the least chemist or biologist... when nuclear physicist denied LENr because it could

[Vo]:get your cookie read

2014-01-12 Thread fznidarsic
At the bottom of my web page there is a table. The web page reads your browsers time zone and language and presents this info on a table. I can tell something about the readers. It then goes on to check what chapters they have read. This has been up for many years. It used to get the data

Re: [Vo]:Basil Hiley Comments on Theoreticians and Experimental Science

2014-01-12 Thread Edmund Storms
I think we can agree the LENR effect is difficult to produce. Many people have made it work, some with ease and some with difficulty. About 800 examples are now described in the literature. However, this success was not universal and has not revealed why it works sometimes and not at

[Vo]:Re: get your cookie read

2014-01-12 Thread fznidarsic
I forgot. If you pick change my name and enter your name. It writes that name into a cookie within your browser. The next time you come in it reads the cookie and presents this name on the table. I guess the real people who do this stuff and NSA can tell much more. Frank -Original

[Vo]:Fwd: get your cookie read

2014-01-12 Thread fznidarsic
Here is how the special link works. If you pick the link below it extracts the name after the ? mark. In this case it is Vortex_Demo. That name is presented on the table at the bottom of my web page. If I post a link to a blog I can then tell if anyone has picked the link.

[Vo]:Fwd: get your cookie read

2014-01-12 Thread fznidarsic
I see vortex demo has already come on the table. You can change the name after the question mark to read something else if you would like to test it. http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/cgi-bin/ZeroPointTechnologies.pl?Vortex_Demo I may add a chapter to my Computer Project book to teach how

Re: [Vo]:Basil Hiley Comments on Theoreticians and Experimental Science

2014-01-12 Thread Axil Axil
As civilization has progressed over the centuries, humans have been creating ever-more complicated systems, from the machines we live with to the informational systems and laws that keep our global community together. Technology continues its relentless march toward increasing complexity —

Re: [Vo]:Basil Hiley Comments on Theoreticians and Experimental Science

2014-01-12 Thread David Roberson
Axil, It is premature to worry about understanding how LENR operates. One day it might appear very simple and we wonder why we did not understand it earlier. One look at a microprocessor and you have to realize how complicated it is, but we know how to make them by the boat full now. My

RE: [Vo]:Basil Hiley Comments on Theoreticians and Experimental Science

2014-01-12 Thread Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.
An analogy may be made with the development of steam engines -- They were built long before the science of thermodynamics was developed -ne, it was probably developed because of steam engines. After a few hundred people were killed with boiler explosions, strict requirements were instituted

Re: [Vo]:Basil Hiley Comments on Theoreticians and Experimental Science

2014-01-12 Thread ChemE Stewart
Man used fire for tens of thousands of years before he realized it was an oxidation reaction On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. hoyt-stea...@cox.netwrote: An analogy may be made with the development of steam engines -- They were built long before the science of

Re: [Vo]:Basil Hiley Comments on Theoreticians and Experimental Science

2014-01-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: It’s one thing to recognize that the advance of technology continues to grow more complex, making the task of the specialist who build and maintain our systems more complicated still, but it’s quite another to recognize that many of these systems are for

[Vo]:Re: get your cookie read

2014-01-12 Thread fznidarsic
Thanks for the HI Frank on my web page monitoring system. I have added a short chapter to my book Computer Project. It tells how to put data after the question mark. A HTML form normally sends data to a Perl script after a question mark. This data can also be manually sent to the Perl

Re: [Vo]:Basil Hiley Comments on Theoreticians and Experimental Science

2014-01-12 Thread Alain Sepeda
it seems that Branly Coherer, that I played with when kid, is still unknown (yet another last theory, based on tunneling and percolation)... it was obsolete before understood. 2014/1/12 ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com Man used fire for tens of thousands of years before he realized it was an

Re: [Vo]:Basil Hiley Comments on Theoreticians and Experimental Science

2014-01-12 Thread Axil Axil
I'm in the process of studying all the explanations and comparing them to what is known in LENR and in general science. The failure to make progress in explaining LENR is easy to see and a clear path to the correct explanation is becoming obvious, at least to me. The problem has a solution

Re: [Vo]:Basil Hiley Comments on Theoreticians and Experimental Science

2014-01-12 Thread Edmund Storms
Axil, this insight will be provided in a book that will take my first book, written in 2007, to the present and show how the observations have been explained and how they can be better explained without conflict with what is known. Unfortunately, so many different opinions exists in the

[Vo]:Rossi warns against fraudulent e-cat vendor

2014-01-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
There is a web site in Switzerland offering Rossi E-cats: http://www.ecatschweiz.com/Prodotti.html Rossi circulated a memo about this: This is a fraud. We do not know them and they are not authorized to sell our products: Attention, it is a fraud !!! - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Basil Hiley Comments on Theoreticians and Experimental Science

2014-01-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: My book will describe my path to a solution. Briefly, isn't this mainly your micro-crack hypothesis, that was discussed at ICCF18? (I am not sure what you call it, so I called it micro-crack.) - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Basil Hiley Comments on Theoreticians and Experimental Science

2014-01-12 Thread Foks0904 .
Jed, In a Nutshell: Nano-crack NAE + Hydroton NAS (Nuclear Active Structure) = CF-LENR. A Micro sized crack would likely inhibit the reaction (as is well known) rather than facilitate it. The devil is in the details. Regards, John On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Jed Rothwell

Re: [Vo]:Basil Hiley Comments on Theoreticians and Experimental Science

2014-01-12 Thread James Bowery
Beaudette, Excess Heat: Fleck's essential commentary upon the scientific methodology found in his study of the Wassermann Test was set forth in the following lengthy quotation: The epistemologically most important turning point occurred with the detection of syphilitic antibodies ... During the

Re: [Vo]:Basil Hiley Comments on Theoreticians and Experimental Science

2014-01-12 Thread Edmund Storms
The nano-crack is only one of many unique features of the process. The process is complex, involving both chemical and nuclear interaction. All the parts have to work together to produce a behavior that is consistent with ALL observations no matter which hydrogen isotope used, which metal

Re: [Vo]:Basil Hiley Comments on Theoreticians and Experimental Science

2014-01-12 Thread Foks0904 .
James, The example you (and Beaudette) provide speaks directly to the nonsensical denial based on reproducibility. When politically convenient for the science community, all experiments get compared to over-simplified two-body interactions in vacua. Similar denialism occurs in parapsychology

RE: [Vo]:Rossi warns against fraudulent e-cat vendor

2014-01-12 Thread Craig Brown
ROFLMAO - The website in question looks like the work of an 8 year old, skilled only in the use of 1980's html. Anyone who has the perception that this in any way could be considered a serious vendor deserves all they get IMHO. Original Message Subject: [Vo]:Rossi warns against

Re: [Vo]:Basil Hiley Comments on Theoreticians and Experimental Science

2014-01-12 Thread Alain Sepeda
Since I'm a bit conservative about sciences, but i'm clearly materialist, I tried to have a method on how to treat unbelievable evidences, not making the Huizenga or Taubes pathetic anti-science claims, that anything far from theory is artifact, no need to check. It is also not far from a better

Re: [Vo]:Basil Hiley Comments on Theoreticians and Experimental Science

2014-01-12 Thread Edmund Storms
Alain, LENR violates no laws. It only violates assumptions. This problem is overlooked in your treatment of unexplained events. I expect parapsychology will also be found to only violate assumptions. We humans keep making assumptions without any justification. If the assumption is wrong,

Re: [Vo]:Basil Hiley Comments on Theoreticians and Experimental Science

2014-01-12 Thread Axil Axil
One manifestation of the LENR reaction that your theoretical thinking has been very weak on is the explanation of the Rossi reactor meltdown when high temperature material can melt at temperatures in excess of 2000C. Will you now attempt to explain how this high heat event can occur, and explain

Re: [Vo]:Basil Hiley Comments on Theoreticians and Experimental Science

2014-01-12 Thread Edmund Storms
First of all, Axil, we do not know which part of e-Cat melted or the melting point of this material. Without this knowledge, speculation is pointless. We know only that the temperature reached the melting point of some material in the reactor. The NAE could not have melted because

Re: [Vo]:Basil Hiley Comments on Theoreticians and Experimental Science

2014-01-12 Thread Foks0904 .
*I also wonder if you will cover Ken Shoulders discovery of transmutation in spark production* I continue to wonder how EVO factors into LENR, if at all. Shoulders has observed that for whatever reason his experiments do not produce radioactive elements, similar to LENR transmutation results. Now

Re: [Vo]:Basil Hiley Comments on Theoreticians and Experimental Science

2014-01-12 Thread Axil Axil
FYI from a previous post. Please consider Rossi a expert first person experimental witness as follows: Andrea Rossi December 28th, 2013 at 6:47 PM http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=833cpage=4#comment-891266 Jed Rothwell: The team of Prof. has been increased. I cannot give more

Re: [Vo]:Basil Hiley Comments on Theoreticians and Experimental Science

2014-01-12 Thread Axil Axil
Ken Shoulders has captured the fundament LENR reaction in a experimental picture he took. In more detail, a picture of the dark mode localized magnetic traps (LMT) can be found in the Ken Shoulders paper on Figure 5 and 6 on page 4 sited in this vortex post as follows:

Re: [Vo]:Basil Hiley Comments on Theoreticians and Experimental Science

2014-01-12 Thread Foks0904 .
Axil, NAE traps seem to exist in many forms. DGT seems to have fabricated magnetic traps facilitated by Nano-antennae, which is what you are referencing. Meulenberg-Sinha in their Extended Lochon elaborate on electrostatic traps initiated by phonons emanating from linear defects (or Nano-cracks).

Re: [Vo]:Basil Hiley Comments on Theoreticians and Experimental Science

2014-01-12 Thread Axil Axil
Nanoplasmonics can explain tritium production as well as helium production. See https://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg83012.html On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 7:46 PM, Foks0904 . foks0...@gmail.com wrote: Axil, NAE traps seem to exist in many forms. DGT seems to have fabricated

Re: [Vo]:Basil Hiley Comments on Theoreticians and Experimental Science

2014-01-12 Thread Edmund Storms
On Jan 12, 2014, at 5:46 PM, Foks0904 . wrote: Axil, NAE traps seem to exist in many forms. DGT seems to have fabricated magnetic traps facilitated by Nano-antennae, which is what you are referencing. Meulenberg-Sinha in their Extended Lochon elaborate on electrostatic traps initiated

Re: [Vo]:Basil Hiley Comments on Theoreticians and Experimental Science

2014-01-12 Thread Axil Axil
More... http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1306/1306.0830.pdf On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 7:54 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Nanoplasmonics can explain tritium production as well as helium production. See https://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg83012.html On Sun,

Re: [Vo]:Basil Hiley Comments on Theoreticians and Experimental Science

2014-01-12 Thread Eric Walker
On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.comwrote: You need to use some facts. Sparks do not occur during electrolysis because the voltages are too small and bubble collapse does not occur. I would be surprised if transients did not occur between grain boundaries during

Re: [Vo]:Basil Hiley Comments on Theoreticians and Experimental Science

2014-01-12 Thread Edmund Storms
OK Axil, what does this information mean? We know that the outside rapidly heated but did not melt. Nor did the inside stainless steel melt. Consequently the temperature stayed below 1510°. We do not know the melting point of the ceramic and only have Rossi's figure. The melting point of

Re: [Vo]:Basil Hiley Comments on Theoreticians and Experimental Science

2014-01-12 Thread Axil Axil
Anderson localization will concentrate degenerate electrons near cracks and bumps on the surface of a metal lattice. This topology will catalyze the formation of vortex currents, BEC and proton crystals within the cracks as seen by Miley in his experimentation. On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 7:54 PM,

Re: [Vo]:Basil Hiley Comments on Theoreticians and Experimental Science

2014-01-12 Thread Foks0904 .
*You use Shoulder's speculation to counter my claim. You need to use some facts. Sparks do not occur during electrolysis because the voltages are too small and bubble collapse does not occur. The bubbles simply grow and rise to the surface. The sonoluminescent approach has two parts. Bubble

Re: [Vo]:Basil Hiley Comments on Theoreticians and Experimental Science

2014-01-12 Thread Eric Walker
On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 5:02 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.comwrote: Nor did the inside stainless steel melt. In Rossi's description, I recall parts of the stainless steel *sublimating*. Eric

Re: [Vo]:Basil Hiley Comments on Theoreticians and Experimental Science

2014-01-12 Thread Axil Axil
High deuterium packing causes topological defects in the lattice structure. These defects produce Anderson localization which will result in vortex electron currents to form as in nanoplasmonics. On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 8:04 PM, Foks0904 . foks0...@gmail.com wrote: *You use Shoulder's

Re: [Vo]:Basil Hiley Comments on Theoreticians and Experimental Science

2014-01-12 Thread Axil Axil
If that loss of confinement hydrogen explosion does not occur, how high would that meltdown temperature have gotten to? The micro nickel particles would have been long ago melted as the meltdown temperature was rapidly increasing. On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 8:07 PM, Eric Walker

Re: [Vo]:Basil Hiley Comments on Theoreticians and Experimental Science

2014-01-12 Thread Edmund Storms
Yes, we have Rossi noting that particles of metal were present. Unless we know the nature of the ceramic and its interaction with stainless, we know nothing on which to base a conclusion. We have hundreds of well done studies that give a clear description of how LENR works. What benefit is

Re: [Vo]:Basil Hiley Comments on Theoreticians and Experimental Science

2014-01-12 Thread Axil Axil
Hydrogen(H2) molecule dissociation to atomic hydrogen(H1) http://phys.org/news/2012-12-hot-electrons-impossible-catalytic-chemistry.html Hot electrons do the impossible in catalytic chemistry Professors Peter Nordlander and Naomi J. Halas of Rice University in Houston, Texas are at the cutting

Re: [Vo]:Basil Hiley Comments on Theoreticians and Experimental Science

2014-01-12 Thread Axil Axil
Rossi has preformed 250 some odd meltdowns to this point, so he should have this process well characterized by now. On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 8:18 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.comwrote: Yes, we have Rossi noting that particles of metal were present. Unless we know the nature of the

Re: [Vo]:Basil Hiley Comments on Theoreticians and Experimental Science

2014-01-12 Thread Eric Walker
On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 5:13 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: If that loss of confinement hydrogen explosion does not occur, how high would that meltdown temperature have gotten to? Daniel Rocha, who I believe has a special hotline to DGT, thought it might be a Langmuir torch reaction.

Re: [Vo]:Basil Hiley Comments on Theoreticians and Experimental Science

2014-01-12 Thread Axil Axil
If this were true, Rossi could have prevented this meltdown from occurring by enclosing his reactor is a vacuum or a noble gas envelope. On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 8:47 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 5:13 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: If that loss

[Vo]:Apropos Fleischmann and Pons

2014-01-12 Thread James Bowery
Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded — here and there, now and then — are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny

Re: [Vo]:Apropos Fleischmann and Pons

2014-01-12 Thread Axil Axil
The advance of technology is catalyzed by the incentives established by the government. A wise incentive structure produces robust technology growth and the wealth of the population that that technology brings. On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 1:01 AM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: Throughout

Re: [Vo]:Basil Hiley Comments on Theoreticians and Experimental Science

2014-01-12 Thread Alain Sepeda
In fact I think we agree. On LENR it is what i repeat, LENR as it looks is only challenging bad habits, lazy approximation, streetligh effect. It is evident for me , as educated about semiconductors, to laugh at LENR bashing using two-body physics only. Like using astrology to bash redshift