Re: [Vo]:eCat Portfolio

2014-06-04 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 11:40 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: If it can be commercialized, and it doesn't cause cancer within a 2 km radius or beckon forth giant sea monsters, Hah! Release the Kraken! http://elmisa.deviantart.com/art/Kraken-v2-424365880

RE: [Vo]:Off Topic

2014-06-04 Thread Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
From Craig: I know this is off topic, but I thought it might be interesting to some of you. It's a unique Bitcoin transaction of which I had never considered. It demonstrates some of the power that Bitcoin may bring to people.

Re: [Vo]:Swedish Professors Chomping at the Bit

2014-06-04 Thread Alain Sepeda
One reason for the scientist, like for Elforsk boss, is not taking risk to be wrong but very probably they already know what they are (right or wrong), and that they did not take the opportunity to flee the debate is an information. If the test was a flop, the boss of Elforsk would have said : I

Re: [Vo]:Swedish Professors Chomping at the Bit

2014-06-04 Thread Daniel Rocha
The oddest thing about this new affair it is that ecat's report should be released soon... So, it's almost like this scam calling was done on purpose, right before its release. -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:Swedish Professors Chomping at the Bit

2014-06-04 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
Yeah, crazy stuff. I'm increasing the % here of Rossi being real to 40% though on the account of the scientists speaking out. They sound confident. On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 6:58 AM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: The oddest thing about this new affair it is that ecat's report

Re: [Vo]:Swedish Professors Chomping at the Bit

2014-06-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: I sincerely doubt that a journal will pick it up, so it will most likely be self-published (again) and generally ignored (again). I think there is no chance any journal will publish this. Self-publication is fine. It will be ignored, but that does not

Re: [Vo]:Swedish Professors Chomping at the Bit

2014-06-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, crazy stuff. I'm increasing the % here of Rossi being real to 40% though on the account of the scientists speaking out. They sound confident. They are confident, but we cannot be sure they have a positive result this time. Even assuming

Re: [Vo]:Swedish Professors Chomping at the Bit

2014-06-04 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
A reasonable point. They may report high, uncontrollable COP. The isotopic analysis should stlll be be interesting though, if they actually did it. On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 7:29 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, crazy stuff.

Re: [Vo]:Swedish Professors Chomping at the Bit

2014-06-04 Thread Steve High
I agree with having an interested public. I also think that having a highly interested stakeholder could prove useful in the political realm. To that end I have been trying to get the trade association for the drought ravaged central California growers interested. If the coastal cities had

[Vo]:LENR-CANR.org completely off line

2014-06-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
Someone may have hacked the domain server. I was just on the phone with the domain people (Hyperstreet.com) for a half-hour. They have no idea what happened. I think they suspect an attack. Whois reports: Domain Status: clientHold Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited Domain Status:

[Vo]:Swedish Professors Chomping at the Bit

2014-06-04 Thread Ian Walker
Hi all On the matter of scepticism: No one is denying people the right to be scientifically sceptical of LENR but to be a sceptical scientist you must conform to the Galileo Test and put your eye to the telescope. For the radio reporter to speak out against a report that has not been published,

Re: [Vo]:Swedish Professors Chomping at the Bit

2014-06-04 Thread Axil Axil
The Galileo Test cannot be one on the Ni/H reactor. Its design and operating principles are top secret. We are at the religion stage currently and the builders of the Ni/H reactors want to keep it that way for as long as possible. When asked :how does it work the builders will then ask you tell

[Vo]:ECAT on AC Power Only

2014-06-04 Thread David Roberson
I do not recall seeing reference to this earlier. Rossi stated in his Journal that he uses AC source power to control the ECAT. According to his words it would be inefficient to convert the source power into DC when the heating apparently is the main function of the current. This suggests

Re: [Vo]:Swedish Professors Chomping at the Bit

2014-06-04 Thread Ian Walker
Hi all In reply to Axil Axil The point I was making was clearly about the the lack of scientific basis of the Radio Reporter critique of a third party report that has not yet been published, so hence no basis on which to make their critique and about the use of ad homonym attacks rather than

Re: [Vo]:Swedish Professors Chomping at the Bit

2014-06-04 Thread James Bowery
We're at the magic stage. Science, anyone skilled in the art can reproduce it. Magic, only some skilled in the art can reproduce it. Religion, no one can reproduce it. On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: The Galileo Test cannot be one on the Ni/H reactor.

Re: [Vo]:ECAT on AC Power Only

2014-06-04 Thread Axil Axil
It does not imply anything about other sources of magnetic fields. Anything new from Rossi on magnetic fields produced by his invention? On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 11:57 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: I do not recall seeing reference to this earlier. Rossi stated in his Journal

Re: [Vo]:ECAT on AC Power Only

2014-06-04 Thread David Roberson
I have not seen any reference from Rossi about the operation of his device in a long time. I suspect that the new owners of his technology want to keep trade secrets as long as possible. Rossi once was far more open to questions. He has not spoken of magnetic fields as related to his ECAT to

Re: [Vo]:Swedish Professors Chomping at the Bit

2014-06-04 Thread ChemE Stewart
I like that On Wednesday, June 4, 2014, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: We're at the magic stage. Science, anyone skilled in the art can reproduce it. Magic, only some skilled in the art can reproduce it. Religion, no one can reproduce it. On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Axil

Re: [Vo]:Swedish Professors Chomping at the Bit

2014-06-04 Thread David Roberson
That is a good description of the status! Dave -Original Message- From: James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Jun 4, 2014 12:00 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Swedish Professors Chomping at the Bit We're at the magic stage. Science, anyone skilled

Re: [Vo]:Swedish Professors Chomping at the Bit

2014-06-04 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear James I think this list is not complete: *Technology*- anybody paying for it and respecting some simple instructions can, use it. Unfortunately skilled in the art has to be defined in each case. Technology is much more than applied science. Peter On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 7:00 PM, James

RE: [Vo]:ECAT on AC Power Only

2014-06-04 Thread Jones Beene
From: David Roberson I have not seen any reference from Rossi about the operation of his device in a long time. I suspect that the new owners of his technology want to keep trade secrets as long as possible. Rossi once was far more open to questions. BTW - here is a point that needs

Re: [Vo]:ECAT on AC Power Only

2014-06-04 Thread Axil Axil
Furthermore, pursuant to the new US patent laws, any technical tidbits that these builders release to the public cannot be protected by patent. On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 12:05 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: I have not seen any reference from Rossi about the operation of his device

Re: [Vo]:Swedish Professors Chomping at the Bit

2014-06-04 Thread James Bowery
Peter, I agree with what you said with two exceptions: 1) Technology does not necessarily imply money. There are huge amounts of open free technology -- particularly in software. 2) skilled in the art has a legal definition as a consequence of patent law's definition of disclosure. Although it

Re: [Vo]:ECAT on AC Power Only

2014-06-04 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
Unless they've already submitted a patent app for them. On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Furthermore, pursuant to the new US patent laws, any technical tidbits that these builders release to the public cannot be protected by patent. On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at

Re: [Vo]:LENR-CANR.org completely off line

2014-06-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
This was caused by ICANN's new domain verification process. This new process seems to be brainchild of some bureaucrat with too much time on his hands. It is a laff riot. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Swedish Professors Chomping at the Bit

2014-06-04 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear James, your definition is perfect, thanks 1) is irrelevant THIS technology implies money, a lot, in and out. 2) re patents, know-how I am speaking from practice. Rarely patents are sold without know how. Peter On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 7:35 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Vo]:Swedish Professors Chomping at the Bit

2014-06-04 Thread Alan Fletcher
At 08:40 AM 6/4/2014, you wrote: The Galileo Test cannot be one on the Ni/H reactor. Its design and operating principles are top secret. We are at the religion stage currently and the builders of the Ni/H reactors want to keep it that way for as long as possible. You can put your eye to the

Re: [Vo]:eCat Portfolio

2014-06-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: How do you view the decision to not build a higher sea wall? Unfortunate. But understandable. The previous tsunami of this magnitude occurred in 869 AD. There were records of it, and even man-markers of the high water mark. But I think experts assumed the

Re: [Vo]:Swedish Professors Chomping at the Bit

2014-06-04 Thread Alain Sepeda
about the problem some people have with the unknown is fascinating. Am I a genius in understanding what is a black box test ? in assuming that if some heat above any known chemical process, above the theoretical chemistry limit, thus there is something ... interesting to look further ? It is the

Re: [Vo]:Swedish Professors Chomping at the Bit

2014-06-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote: about the problem some people have with the unknown is fascinating. I think that is the core problem. Fear of novelty is common in many animals. It is a healthy evolved response, but it gets in the way of science. Am I a genius in understanding

Re: [Vo]:Swedish Professors Chomping at the Bit

2014-06-04 Thread Lennart Thornros
To Alain and Jed, I think you guys are on to what I call the difference between an entrepreneur (a very misused word) and not an entrepreneur. Entrepreneurs are fearless about new things. However to be a successful entrepreneur you need to be logical and the hardest - You have to accept the simple

Re: [Vo]:Swedish Professors Chomping at the Bit

2014-06-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com wrote: I think you guys are on to what I call the difference between an entrepreneur (a very misused word) and not an entrepreneur. Entrepreneurs are fearless about new things. However to be a successful entrepreneur you need to be logical and the

RE: [Vo]:Swedish Professors Chomping at the Bit

2014-06-04 Thread Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Jed, I've just read your modus operandi, and again I find myself wanting to say: Have you considered putting together a historical account of the Saga of Cold Fusion? You've already written a book 10 years ago on how Cold Fusion has the potential to transform the world for the better.

[Vo]:Heavy Fermion Metals that contain Nickel

2014-06-04 Thread Ron Kita
Greetings Vortex, http://phys.org/news/2014-06-quantum-criticality-class-materials.html Ad Astra, Ron Kita, Chiralex

Re: [Vo]:Swedish Professors Chomping at the Bit

2014-06-04 Thread Kevin O'Malley
But you don't increase the % on the thread where you introduced that practice. So I'm constrained to decrease my ASSessment of an ASSurance that Blaze will pull his head out of his ASinine hind quarters down to 7.61%, taking into account the Coriolis effect on this year's election cycle. At

Re: [Vo]:A tipping point?

2014-06-04 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Here's how I think it will go down based upon long term observation and Rossi's hints. It will be a positive TIP report. The TIP report will be ignored in the industry. Rossi IH will announce that they intend to demo to their patent application which was denied recently due to being impossible,

Re: [Vo]:Heavy Fermion Metals that contain Nickel

2014-06-04 Thread Axil Axil
IMHO, highly correlated electron systems are the bedrock upon which LENR is built. The complicated interplay between magnetism, temperature, condensed matter, electrons, and quantum mechanics produces many strange effects including superconductivity and the hydrino ( fractional orbitons).

RE: [Vo]:Swedish Professors Chomping at the Bit

2014-06-04 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Kevin, Lighten up. Cardinal rule here is no personal attacks… You’ve got your opinion, he’s got his… and you know what they say about opinions… they’re like ASS*oles… everyone’s got one, and noone wants to look at the other person’s. -Mark Iverson From: Kevin O'Malley

Re: [Vo]:Swedish Professors Chomping at the Bit

2014-06-04 Thread Kevin O'Malley
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 9:45 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: Kevin, Lighten up. ***NO. Ever since Blaze first showed up, he's been trying to steal money from your pocket and every other vortician's pocket. http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l%40eskimo.com/msg83682.html