Re: [Vo]:SunCell - Initial Replication Attempt

2014-08-29 Thread Kevin O'Malley
On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 8:47 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: In the final analysis, the actual topics that are being discussed are not that relevant in the present context. It's the hijacking of the conversation in a direction that people have expressed displeasure with and

Re: [Vo]: The Absurdity of Darwinian Evolution.

2014-08-29 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Please understand, that I am not really taking one or the other side. ***You're talking out of both sides of your mouth. And you're stlll unclear. Why don't you show us an example so we can simply laugh at you. Sunil: An example of errors in small numbers being fatal, might be: weather

Re: [Vo]:SunCell - Initial Replication Attempt

2014-08-29 Thread Eric Walker
On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 1:16 AM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote: ***Then why do some Vorts say that the discussion is not for Vortex, even when the thread title is obviously [OT Off Topic]? Just my personal view on this one. There are some off-topic discussions that are benign and

Re: [Vo]:SunCell - Initial Replication Attempt

2014-08-29 Thread Kevin O'Malley
There are some off-topic discussions that are benign and others that lead to flamewars because they're polarizing and contentious. ***What we need for the internet is a heavily moderated TIP (Third Independent Party) website where the discussion can be transferred and disputes settled. I'm

Re: [Vo]: The Absurdity of Darwinian Evolution.

2014-08-29 Thread Alan Fletcher
I haven't been following this thread. But can somebody please give me an estimate of the average rate of deity-formation. (That is, an omnipitent, omnipresent deity capable of creating a universe -- or maybe even a multiverse -- and then diddle with DNA over a coupla/few billion years.). Would

Re: [Vo]:Evolutionists As Idiots

2014-08-29 Thread Kevin O'Malley
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 7:12 PM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: What's your best-guess as to the age of the Universe? ***My best guess is 16Billion years. And it is also 6days old. It depends upon your relativistic perspective. I'm a creationist, and even

Re: [Vo]: The Absurdity of Darwinian Evolution.

2014-08-29 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Yup. The bible says a day is like a thousand years to God, and a thousand years is like a day. Science today tells us that someone travelling the speed of light (the twin paradox) for a year would return to his twin back on earth, and the twin would have aged 100 years. Is God restricted to the

Re: [Vo]:SunCell - Initial Replication Attempt

2014-08-29 Thread Eric Walker
On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote: The topic of aliens is totally benign, ***I have not found that topic to be benign. I'm not talking about in discussions about aliens in general, I'm talking about discussions about them in the context of Vortex. I've

Re: [Vo]: The Absurdity of Darwinian Evolution.

2014-08-29 Thread ChemE Stewart
You just Unified Science and Religion! Who makes crop circles? On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 1:18 PM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote: Yup. The bible says a day is like a thousand years to God, and a thousand years is like a day. Science today tells us that someone travelling the speed

Re: [Vo]:SunCell - Initial Replication Attempt

2014-08-29 Thread Kevin O'Malley
So... you think the topic is totally benign here on Vortex. I think it isn't. Go ahead and post the topic and we shall see.If one side thinks it's magic water lilies, and the other side thinks it's pixie dust, then do the forum rules apply to both sides? No sneering, that kind of thing? Or

Re: [Vo]:SunCell - Initial Replication Attempt

2014-08-29 Thread Eric Walker
You're just going to reply to anything I say. On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 10:28 AM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote: So... you think the topic is totally benign here on Vortex. I think it isn't. Go ahead and post the topic and we shall see.If one side thinks it's magic water

Re: [Vo]: The Absurdity of Darwinian Evolution.

2014-08-29 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Crop circles are formed by rednecks with nothing better to do. They are also formed by microwave beam weaponry from satellites orbiting. Once in awhile those things need to tuned. On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 10:24 AM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote: You just Unified Science and Religion!

Re: [Vo]:SunCell - Initial Replication Attempt

2014-08-29 Thread Kevin O'Malley
If you want to avoid giving a real reply, such an answer is suitable. Why do you post if you don't want someone to reply? Why do you evade from giving an intelligent response? On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: You're just going to reply to anything I

Re: [Vo]: The Absurdity of Darwinian Evolution.

2014-08-29 Thread Alan Fletcher
At 10:18 AM 8/29/2014, Kevin O'Malley wrote: Science today tells us that someone travelling the speed of light (the twin paradox) for a year would return to his twin back on earth, and the twin would have aged 100 years. Is God restricted to the speed of light? NO WAY. He no doubt travels

Re: [Vo]: The Absurdity of Darwinian Evolution.

2014-08-29 Thread ChemE Stewart
I haven't found any in Georgia or Alabama, are you sure? On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote: Crop circles are formed by rednecks with nothing better to do. They are also formed by microwave beam weaponry from satellites orbiting. Once in awhile those

Re: [Vo]:SunCell - Initial Replication Attempt

2014-08-29 Thread Kevin O'Malley
I just realized that what you said upthread is an interesting and perhaps appropriate reply: I will take your cavalier response as an indication that you don't care about whether you're being a burden on other people on this list... But then, you used it as a pretext to engage in censorship when

Re: [Vo]: The Absurdity of Darwinian Evolution.

2014-08-29 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Simple answer: Rednecks in Georgia Alabama aren't smart enough... or aren't bored enough... etc. Also, the beam weapons would be focused on strategic locations. On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 10:34 AM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't found any in Georgia or Alabama, are you sure?

Re: [Vo]: The Absurdity of Darwinian Evolution.

2014-08-29 Thread Kevin O'Malley
But that's post-creation, ***During those first 6 days of creation, it was not post-creation. And there's a bible verse that says something to the effect that God continues to create, which is a good clue about why our universe is still expanding. where the deity is crossing from (let's call

Re: [Vo]: The Absurdity of Darwinian Evolution.

2014-08-29 Thread Alan Fletcher
ps Did anyone ever figure out how many angels CAN dance on the head of a pin? Between one and 30 vigintillion angels. http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comicsid=2576

Re: [Vo]: The Absurdity of Darwinian Evolution.

2014-08-29 Thread Alan Fletcher
My question is about the metaphysics of where/how/what heaven was before creation. ***Well, I answered your original question. Now you want to expand it into areas where I have diminishing interest. There's basically no scientific (and probably very little spiritual) value in such a

Re: [Vo]: The Absurdity of Darwinian Evolution.

2014-08-29 Thread Kevin O'Malley
I doubt that. I know there's a lot of focus on the first few seconds or milliseconds of creation, but focusing on the universe prior to that the level of information is asymptotic to zero. We'll get no better than the earth was formless and void. On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Alan Fletcher

Re: [Vo]:SunCell - Initial Replication Attempt

2014-08-29 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps you should get in touch with Bill Beaty and ask him to censor you as well, for generating such a cavalier response. Bill does not censor, he relegates you to vortex...@eskimo.com a sort of purgatory. When you

[Vo]:Humans Need Not Apply

2014-08-29 Thread Jed Rothwell
Here is a good video about automation and employment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU Some good quotes: after the Model T, people did not say: There will be new jobs for horses we can't imagine! There is not a rule that says, better technology makes more better jobs for horses. -

Re: [Vo]: The Absurdity of Darwinian Evolution.

2014-08-29 Thread Alan Fletcher
At 11:28 AM 8/29/2014, you wrote: I doubt that. I know there's a lot of focus on the first few seconds or milliseconds of creation, but focusing on the universe prior to that the level of information is asymptotic to zero. We'll get no better than the earth was formless and void.Â

Re: [Vo]: The Absurdity of Darwinian Evolution.

2014-08-29 Thread David Roberson
Lets call time before the big bang as BBB. So what was around 1 billion years BBB? If we choose to believe that time has been passing forever then there would be plenty of time for life to develop during the past. There is sufficient evidence that everything we see today was produced

Re: [Vo]: The Absurdity of Darwinian Evolution.

2014-08-29 Thread Alan Fletcher
At 01:17 PM 8/29/2014, David Roberson wrote: Lets call time before the big bang as BBB. So what was around 1 billion years BBB? Our measurement techniques and assumptions lead us to believe that 13+ odd billion years has elapsed, but what if we are wrong? According to relativity, immense mass

Re: [Vo]: The Absurdity of Darwinian Evolution.

2014-08-29 Thread Kevin O'Malley
On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 1:17 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Lets call time before the big bang as BBB. So what was around 1 billion years BBB? ***Time was created at the beginning of the big bang, so asking what happened a billion years before time was created is like asking

Re: [Vo]:Humans Need Not Apply

2014-08-29 Thread Alain Sepeda
good remarks for the horses. maybe the salarymen are like horses but we are not only the horses, we are the rider too. don't steal the job of robots. the problem is to find a way to make people have access to the product and services the robots produces. some say basic income... I propose

Re: [Vo]:Elon Would Invest in LENR

2014-08-29 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 9:36 PM, ucar u...@verisoft.com wrote: Just I was the middle of viewing several interviews with him and figured out that he is aware of all things, however try to find out an evolutionary (smooth) way to change the world. I believe Tesla Motors name is not coincidental

Re: [Vo]:Elon Would Invest in LENR

2014-08-29 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 9:36 PM, ucar u...@verisoft.com wrote: Just I was the middle of viewing several interviews with him and figured out that he is aware of all things, however try to find out an evolutionary (smooth)

Re: [Vo]: The Absurdity of Darwinian Evolution.

2014-08-29 Thread H Veeder
On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: ps Did anyone ever figure out how many angels CAN dance on the head of a pin? Between one and 30 vigintillion angels. http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comicsid=2576 about the origin of that question:

Re: [Vo]:Elon Would Invest in LENR

2014-08-29 Thread H Veeder
On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 9:53 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 9:36 PM, ucar u...@verisoft.com wrote: Just I was the middle of viewing several interviews with him and figured out

Re: [Vo]: The Absurdity of Darwinian Evolution.

2014-08-29 Thread David Roberson
Kevin, Apparently you have your fixed concepts of how the universe began and have a difficult time relating to flexible ideas. The reason I asked about 1 billion years before the big bang was to open discussion about the problem now facing our understanding of time before that event. It

Re: [Vo]: The Absurdity of Darwinian Evolution.

2014-08-29 Thread Jojo Iznart
The answer to this question is 100 million. It may come as a surprise to many but the Bible may have an answer to this question. I am answering this not to show how biblically knowledgeable I am, but to show the skeptic that the Bible has many many answers to many many difficult questions if

Re: [Vo]: The Absurdity of Darwinian Evolution.

2014-08-29 Thread CB Sites
** *Kevin O'Malley wrote:* *Science today tells us that someone travelling the speed of light (the twin paradox) for a year would return to his twin back on earth, and the twin would have aged 100 years. Is God restricted to the speed of light? NO WAY. He no doubt travels faster than that,

Re: [Vo]:Humans Need Not Apply

2014-08-29 Thread Eric Walker
On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 12:51 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Some good quotes: after the Model T, people did not say: There will be new jobs for horses we can't imagine! There is not a rule that says, better technology makes more better jobs for horses. Pleasantly apocalyptic.

Re: [Vo]: The Absurdity of Darwinian Evolution.

2014-08-29 Thread Kevin O'Malley
On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 7:24 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Kevin, Apparently you have your fixed concepts of how the universe began ***Apparently you do not accept scientific evidence. It is you who has a fixed concept of how the universe began. and have a difficult time

Re: [Vo]: The Absurdity of Darwinian Evolution.

2014-08-29 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Good place to start for wormhole stuff http://www.springfieldspringfield.co.uk/view_episode_scripts.php?tv-show=through-the-wormholeepisode=s01e02 On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 10:40 PM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 7:24 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com