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From: mix...@bigpond.com
In reply to Bob Higgins's message:
Isn't the problem with this scenario that the ground state H/D atom must
GIVE UP energy to enter the DDL state.
RvS: Actually this may not be so far from the truth. Consider a situation
where lots of
As a thought experiment I asked myself, What would I observe if DDL state
hydrogen was ubiquitous?. What follows may be naive, please feel free to
say so.
We have talked about creating and/or using DDL state hydrogen as part of
LENR, but if this DDL state exists as has been described, DDL
From: Bob Higgins
As a thought experiment I asked myself, What would I observe if DDL state
hydrogen was ubiquitous?… In effect, it could be all around us and within
condensed matter in arbitrary density. So how could it be detected?
One thought is that being dense, stable and
“Abiogenic” is the word I was trying to remember…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenic_petroleum_origin
From: Bob Higgins
As a thought experiment I asked myself, What would I observe if DDL state
hydrogen was ubiquitous?… In effect, it could be all around us and within
Agree,
Our weather disturbances are inflating vacuum. It bends and lenses
electromagnetic radiation (light and Doppler). We are all decaying in a
cosmic wash and rinse cycle.
Stewart
Darkmattersalot
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
*From:* Bob
The following message did not appear, presumably because it contained a table,
which has been dropped.
From: Axil Axil
* Rossi saw 512KeV gamma from positrons in his early reactors.
No, he didn’t. Rossi says over and over that there is no gamma radiation. He
says Focardi’s
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Ø Rossi saw 512KeV gamma from positrons in his early reactors.
No, he didn’t. Rossi says over and over that there is no gamma radiation.
He says Focardi’s theory had predicted gamma, but none was ever observed.
On the other hand, Celani said he did
Why would Rossi enclose his reactor in LEAD if no gamma's were ever seen?
Is it in his interest to mislead the world in believing that no gammas were
seen, I think it would be. It would keep the NRC out of his business. Is
Rossi totally honest in everything he says, I think he is not. Are you
question is the dose...
Rossi mostly said that ther was no dangerous radiation, not much above
baclground.
a peak, eg at 511kev is not necessarily a danger yet can be detected.
from ed Storms books and papers it is clear there are x-rays, but not much
and there is a cutoff energy...
section 4.6
The point about gamma radiation is a theoretical one. In order to claim
that a polariton condensate can fractionalize gamma frequencies, there must
be gamma radiation produces by LENR in some circumstances at the least.
Jones primary position states that LENR does not produce gamma radiation
In reply to frobertcook's message of Tue, 30 Sep 2014 09:32:26 +0200:
Hi,
[snip]
Bob
In semi conductors electrons r enter and seem to change the energy states of
all the electrons in the semi conductor over a considerable distance
associated with QM system of the SC. TMK it's instantaneous.
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 1:07 AM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 2:54 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
If it happened nobody would notice.
Yes. I think it would be indistinguishable from an elastic collision (if
the two situations are different).
Eric
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Tue, 30 Sep 2014 07:12:23 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
You seem to favoring the terminology of IRH over DDL and that is fine
with me, however, DDL invokes Dirac, which is wise - and also it is not
necessarily limited to two dimensions as is IRH which means the reaction
In reply to H Veeder's message of Tue, 30 Sep 2014 17:39:12 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 1:07 AM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 2:54 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
If it happened nobody would notice.
Yes. I think it would be indistinguishable
From: Axil Axil
Jones primary position states that LENR does not produce gamma radiation
because LENR is not a nuclear process. Therefore, gamma level radiation cannot
be produced in any conceivable event. This is the same position that Mills
takes.
Axil - this is incorrect, except
Sorry but since none of the usual policy experts want to touch this with
a ten-foot poll, it is shaping up to have some features in common with
other civilization-impacting failures of policy experts with which this
list is all-too familiar:
Early symptoms of Ebola are flu-like and it is
I think humanity is closing in on the realization that all of this pulsed
electromagnetic radiation ( 2 billion watts or more in the US) is actually
bad for us. The '70s heralded Ebola with the advent of microwave point to
point communications in Africa communities. I think they are cooking the
James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
Early symptoms of Ebola are flu-like and it is contagious during these
flu-like symptoms.
Well, they are flu-like but far more severe. Once the person comes down
with a full blown case, no one would confuse it with ordinary flu. It is
more like the 1918
ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
I think humanity is closing in on the realization that all of this pulsed
electromagnetic radiation ( 2 billion watts or more in the US) is actually
bad for us.
That is not likely to be causing the epidemic in Africa. It did not cause
the 1918 pandemic.
Africa was not in the midst of a flu epidemic so they were able to screen
for flu like symptoms as a trigger for quarantine. Moreover your assertion
that there are discernible differences between this season's flu symptoms
and those of early stage Ebola is not only reckless, the aforelinked CDC
Right, that was most likely Radio frequencies and other
military transmissions going thru birds
1921 radio towers in NY coincided with large polio virus outbreaks and
also later in LA.
I posted some maps and articles on my blog. Some people at the time
thought it might be RF radiation
On
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 7:22 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
That's is completely wrong! The CDC is within sight of my office and I
know people who work there. News from the CDC is in the Metro section of
Atlanta newspapers often. I assure
James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
Moreover your assertion that there are discernible differences between
this season's flu symptoms and those of early stage Ebola is not only
reckless, the aforelinked CDC guidelines provide nothing in the way of such
criteria.
I did not say that. I
James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
You just tangled with the wrong guy, Jed.
I was the one who contacted the authors of Nature's cover story on AIDS
epidemiology (May et al) in 1987 to correct their model -- and guess how I
knew about the error?
Some grad students at the U of IL had
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 7:39 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
...discernible differences between this season's flu symptoms and those
of early stage Ebola is not only reckless, the aforelinked CDC guidelines
provide nothing in the way of
Here is a good article about how ebola would be treated in the U.S.:
http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/08/what-would-happen-if-someone-got-ebola-in-america/375928/
This is how it was, in fact, treated recently in Atlanta, when two infected
doctors were airlifted in. One of them was
James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
... It is not possible to tell at an early stage without extensive testing
And:
1) They are shedding virus during this stage
2) There has been no mention of flu season in CDC documents about Ebola
Of course they are concerned about the similarity!
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 8:00 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
... It is not possible to tell at an early stage without extensive testing
And:
1) They are shedding virus during this stage
2) There has been no mention of flu season in
Why is it that off topic posts like flu season don't get a Vort kicked
off the list when other off-topic posts like christianity get a vort kicked
off?
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 4:08 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry but since none of the usual policy experts want to touch this
Rossi knows that in order to get his reactors to be approved in the USA, he
needs to show zero nuclear effects. He KNOWS it is nucular, but to the
authorities he will be saying showing NO nucular effects. none. By the
time he sells ten thousand units, the NRC gets wise and has no capability
Kevin sez:
Why is it that off topic posts like flu season don't get a
Vort kicked off the list when other off-topic posts like
christianity get a vort kicked off?
You have eloquently expressed a cross we must all bare: Life is unfair.
Get over it.
Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
Kevin, if you find this objectionable, all you have to do is say so and
I'll not post another response on this topic.
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 8:53 PM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote:
Why is it that off topic posts like flu season don't get a Vort kicked
off the list when other
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Tue, 30 Sep 2014 20:52:07 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
Here is a good article about how ebola would be treated in the U.S.:
http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/08/what-would-happen-if-someone-got-ebola-in-america/375928/
This is how it was, in fact, treated
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 7:46 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
The problem is not what happens to an infected person once they go to
hospital. ...
I see two additional potential problems:
- A strain eventually develops that becomes airborne. Perhaps not with
this outbreak, but in the next
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 7:48 AM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com
wrote:
You might compare Df/H to a gas of stable neutrons. If stable neutrons
could exist, they would cause spontaneous isotopic shifts from thermal
collisions with atoms.
In thought experiments, this is how I think of f/H
I wrote:
This possibility of a large interaction cross section ...
It occurs to me that f/H will necessarily undergo collisions just like any
other species (including neutrons). Presumably that kinetic energy will
occasionally be passed on in inelastic collisions and reinflate the
erstwhile
From: Eric Walker
Bob Higgins wrote:
You might compare Df/H to a gas of stable neutrons. If stable neutrons could
exist, they would cause spontaneous isotopic shifts from thermal collisions
with atoms.
In thought experiments, this is how I think of f/H -- as somewhat larger and
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 8:37 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
The electrons of f/H are tightly bound, but effectively shield the strong
force so it does not come into play.
I believe leptons are transparent to the strong interaction and so will
provide precious little shielding
Because it has the OT header. Limited OT postings with that header are allowed
because they are easy to filter. Without the header and embedded in on topic
threads they annoy.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone
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From: Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com
This was not verbalized very well – the “shielding” would be in keeping the
other particle at bay instead of neutralizing the force.
This would be more like an offset or a protective cage than a shield.
From: Eric Walker
The electrons of f/H are tightly bound, but effectively
BTW – back to Bob’s thought experiment.
One possibility which we have talked about in the past as a resource for this
species is the solar wind, which could contain a percentage of Df/H. Supposedly
the species would be formed in the Sun’s corona. Most of it cannot escape but
some would be
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 5:51 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to H Veeder's message of Tue, 30 Sep 2014 17:39:12 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 1:07 AM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 2:54 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
If it
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 9:25 PM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
When the deuterium nucleus gets close enough to connect with the second
Nickel nucleus it gives up its neutron to that nickel nucleus.
I think you're going to need a powerful force to make this part happen.
Think of the
I wrote:
Think of the proton that is part of the deuteron and the nickel nucleus as
extremely powerful, oppositely magnetized metal spheres.
I didn't say that very well. They're like two magnets with the same poles
facing each other (these magnets are monopoles, so there's no other pole to
Now I'll give *you* something to believe. I'm just one hundred and one,
five months and a day.'
'I can't believe *that!*' said Alice.
'Can't you?' the Queen said in a pitying tone. 'Try again: draw a long
breath, and shut your eyes.'
Alice laughed. 'There's no use trying,' she said 'one *can't*
I agree with Eric on this issue.
Dave
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From: Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, Sep 27, 2014 5:01 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Four Ways to View the Multiverse
On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 9:08 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 8:26 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
I have previously suggested that a dense cluster might also absorb the
energy in
the form of kinetic energy distributed among thousands of densely clustered
atoms.
I see that Robin and Jones were talking about hydrino reinflation
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
Why would Rossi enclose his reactor in LEAD if no gamma's were ever seen?
In Rossi's own 2010 patent, he states that the lead (and boron) shield is
there to protect from harmful radiation: In particular, the inventive
I wrote:
In Rossi's own 2010 patent, he states that the lead (and boron) shield is
there to protect from harmful radiation: In particular, the inventive
apparatus is coated by boron layers and lead plates both for restraining
noxious radiations and transforming them into energy, without
And so it begins exactly as I predicted: He went to the emergency room with
flu like symptoms and they ... wait for it SENT HIM HOME
http://www.nbcdfw.com/video/#!/news/local/Dallas-Hospital-Patient-Fighting-Ebola-Virus/277694491
.
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 6:08 PM, James Bowery
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