Charles M. Brown wrote:
The Johnson noise produced in resistors is A.C. which will have an
average voltage of zero. A group of resistors will have act like one
equivalent resistor. Diodes in consistent alignment parallel will
conduct more Johnson noise current and less voltage when the
:
On 3/5/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Don't take this the
wrong way, but I know with near 100% confidence that a highly
motivative person
could get your research on the way within four months, top! In the
mean time,
you could be thinking of ways to do this on your own
bandwidth
compared to the ~1 THz extent of Johnson noise. Micro and nano scale
diodes are needed for the next round of testing which would be more
definitive.
Mon, 5 Mar 2007 10:17:29 -0500
Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 3/5/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Don't take
email please note the reply
address in his email does not go to vortex-l@eskimo.com So basically you'll
think the email went to everyone when in reality it would not. If you reply then
you'll need to change the To: address to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Also, could we please leave the subject to Re: [Vo
Terry Blanton wrote:
On 3/5/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Could you please forward the details regarding that photo?
Here's Tom's index:
http://mysite.verizon.net/vzesfls5/files/
Terry
Thank you. The first document I read, Final Report, May 6, 2006 (text) said
Hi,
Has anyone replicated and studied Naudin's conditioned carbon resistors?
Naudin's scope shots show the resistance is not linear relative to resistance
current. That would be a very interesting effect to study.
Regards,
Paul Lowrance
Nick Palmer wrote:
Steven A Lawrence wrote:-
Actually we're supposed to exercise a bit of restraint on this list and
not shoot too many holes in theories even if they look like easy
targets. At least, that's my understanding of the Vortex rules -- it's
supposed to be a safe place to air
Hi,
This email will describe the simplest (as far as I know) method of capturing and
storing ambient temperature energy. Hopefully those wanting to reply could
first read the entire email since I'll address various possible questions later
in this email.
I was hoping at least someone would
Jones Beene wrote:
Lets consider photovoltaic cells. Even at room temperature in
complete darkness (no solar) there are visible light photons striking
the cell. I calculate a 10 cm x 10 cm common solar cell would
generate roughly 1E-30 volts. Not much voltage, lol, but still
something
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
Nick Palmer wrote:
From John Berry's we can do what ever we want if we just get the old
rocks
out of our head message:-
Why people think their preconcieved notions of what is and isn't
possible trumps the evidence I'll never know Quite so. Tell Paul...
Paul
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
Some would say that's passive aggressive Stephen A. Lawrence.
Just a little bit of an ad hominem? I guess some means you, eh?
Yes, I think you are passive aggressive. I think you have a negative
interpretation to my statements. I am very direct and address
Michel Jullian wrote:
Paul stop antagonizing people it's not fun any more.
Michel, could you please stop the personal stuff. What gives you the right to
post a personal statement as above while I do not have the right? I will debate
anyone on this matter in private. You think you are
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
Nick Palmer wrote:
From John Berry's we can do what ever we want if we just get the old
rocks
out of our head message:-
Why people think their preconcieved notions of what is and isn't
possible trumps the evidence I'll
Nick,
Nick Palmer wrote:
Paul, you seem to think that just because you have used a computer
modelling program (LT Spice) that it's predictions are necessarily
reality. If the initial assumptions and parameters that were modelled
and programmed in are in error it won't be of much use to
RC Macaulay wrote:
May work in the new world of welfare but never in the saloon at Dime Box
Texas. The characters that inhabit a Texas beer joint are a microcism of the
US Congress. For sure a fight will start as soon as somebody takes a sip outa
somebody else's mug.. half full or half
Terry Blanton wrote:
On 3/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I wonder what would happen if I
placed an appreciable price, say $100.
You would receive a citation and be fined for running a business
without a license. Soon, you would be audited by the IRS and they
would trump
John Berry wrote:
The problem is there is much that most ignore due to ***LIMITS*** they assume
exist and if these more spooky things did exist they assume couldn't be
understood or engineered.
Sad, but very true.
Regards,
Paul Lowrance
Nick Palmer wrote:
From John Berry's we can do what ever we want if we just get the old
rocks
out of our head message:-
Why people think their preconcieved notions of what is and isn't
possible trumps the evidence I'll never know Quite so. Tell Paul...
Paul Lowrance has come up with a
Nick Palmer wrote:
Paul wrote:-
Nick, Answer this. If it is possible to capture energy from ambient
temperature then wouldn't you want to know how?
I wish you luck in your endeavour.
Please don't leave now.
If I can demonstrate how you can store energy taken from ambient
Hello Nick,
Nick Palmer wrote:
Firstly, I did not say that there is no THERMAL noise (obviously there
is from the Brownian motion) I said that there is no thermally induced
effective *voltage* noise when there is no current flowing.
If you want to learn about thermal noise then create a
Jones Beene wrote:
If the curious would dump the silly rhetoric, take a moment to visit and
study the excellent site of Professor Kowalski, they would discover that
Michel Julian is, shall we opine metaphorically: knee deep into cold
fusion...g ... and we on Vo should be grateful for his
thomas malloy wrote:
Vortexians;
The posting on the Ev Gray motor motivated me to check the link. When I
noticed that it was Sterling Allen's website, I sent him the email
below, and recieved the following reply. I have previously posted my
criticisms of the vaporware merchant Peter
Michel Jullian wrote:
---
I don't consider CF as free energy,
---
Why not?
Regards,
Paul Lowrance
Nick Palmer wrote:
Paul wrote:-
You should read about different types of noise --
http://www.aikenamps.com/ResistorNoise.htm
Well, I read this webpage. Maybe you misunderstand. When they say
The thermal noise of a resistor is equal to:
Vt = SQRT(4kTBR)
where:
Vt =
://www.gn0sis.com/component/option,com_joomlaboard/Itemid,33/func,showcat/catid,12/
also seems to have at least some work on EVGray. and why wouldnt norman
wootan answer questions regards evgray?
On 28/02/07, Esa Ruoho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i recommend hunting down this.. it used
Michel Jullian wrote:
I think you're right on this Paul, however you're unnecessarily rude as usual.
That's just your interpretation according to a POV of common social behavior.
That's a result of being programmed by society. What you refer to as rudeness I
refer to as bluntness with very
Michel Jullian wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Paul
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Quantum Thermodynamics
I think you're right on this Paul, however you're unnecessarily rude as
usual.
That's just your interpretation
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
[snip]
And how much electrical noise energy is the cell converting back into
radiation, eh? If everything's at the same temperature you'll most
likely find the amount of radiation the cell is generating, as a result
of running backwards, is equal to the amount of
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
You think that unlike other materials in the room, it radiates less than
it absorbs under those conditions. I'm saying I'm not so sure.
Experiment can't give the answer at this time, of course -- or, rather,
any real experiment using real solar cells will support
I have a question for both Michel Jullian and Stephen A. Lawrence. Could you
please state if you are presently working on so-called Free Energy technology?
My definition of Free Energy obviously would not include the initial cost or
cost of maintenance.
If you are working on such
.
Paul
Michel
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 2:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Quantum Thermodynamics
Michel Jullian wrote:
---
Ok I remember you mentioned something of the sort now. So the hard bit is to
make
Nick Palmer wrote:
Connect a noisy resistor across a red LED and it will emit red photons
I don't know if anyone mentioned this before but surely the noisy
resistor is only noisy when a current is flowing through it - which
takes a voltage - which needs energy input to sustain it - which
Terry Blanton wrote:
Gnorts Vorts!
While some things must remain on the QT, I was reading that TB
(Bearden, not me) claims that his MEG gets cool when it's pumping
power. Would any Vorts care to speculate how an OU device would take
heat from the environment?
Terry
Hi,
The how has
Please read the plea for help in this research at the bottom of this post.
Michel Jullian wrote:
Paul the how question may be premature, the last I remember you had
convincingly shown that total magnetic field energy increased when two magnets
got attracted to each other, in addition to
There's a specific experiment that the late E.V. Gray performed that is
fascinating --
Quote,
---
In the workshop, a 6-volt car battery rested on a table. Lead wires ran from the
battery to a series of capacitors which are the key to Gray's discovery. The
complete system was wired to two
Jones Beene wrote:
OK the cooling results shown are intriguing but not conclusive
We should note that JNL merely measured the temperature drop in the wires. Note
that the wires are stationary, but the magnetic material is spinning. JNL did
not directly measure any temperature changes in the
explanations shorter and more practical. Suppose your
theory works as you expect, can you briefly describe the energy extraction
device workings, order of magnitude of the size, the form of energy it would
output? (heat, electricity?)
Michel
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED
was the goal.
Regards,
Paul Lowrance
Michel
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 12:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Quantum Thermodynamics
Actually I wouldn't use the term atmosphere to describe the energy source
to provide
extraordinary surge power for rail guns and electromagnetic forming. AC
fields can configured to attract non-magnetic conductors and even
insulators. Looks magical until you think deeply.
Mike Carrell
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
A poll of 72 leading physicists conducted by the American researcher David Raub
in 1995 and published in the French periodical Sciences et Avenir in January
1998 recorded that nearly 60% thought many worlds interpretation was 'true'.
Paul Lowrance
Terry Blanton wrote:
On 2/17/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is clearly the Smoking Gun ***UNLESS*** Mike is being
deceitful. Only
time will tell which is the case.
I hope you are right. Here is the post to which I referred:
Here are some help tips from Mike( User
Terry Blanton wrote:
On 2/17/07, Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Time will tell. But unlike the Steorn shenanigans and
carefully inflicted drama, this time we will likely
have a pretty good answer by next week.
It looks like a Bendini variant. Reading the thread, the experimenter
Kyle R. Mcallister wrote:
Mega tax dollars being spent on superstring theory and the like is
perhaps the largest 21st century violation of separation of church and
state that exists. No one seems to know if the thing can be proven or
disproven at all, its a big argument. This is not science,
Michel Jullian wrote:
Paul,
1/ If you think the potential vs potential energy remark was just
humor, you are showing great ignorance. Look up the definition of
voltage = electric potential:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_potential
Electric potential is the potential energy per
Michel Jullian wrote:
so it seems only the second and third way of looking at things
(potential energy and work of forces) are equivalent in all cases.
Bingo!
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
Michel Jullian wrote:
Paul, Paul, Paul you missed my point again, never mind :)
To go back to your
Terry Blanton wrote:
On 2/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If M-theory were even 1/10 as negative as you feel then the physics
community has fallen because a great deal of the top physicists around
the world are working on it. It does indeed predict and seems
promising
Harry Veeder wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If M-theory were even 1/10 as negative as you feel then the physics
community has fallen because a great deal of the top physicists around
the world are working on it. It does indeed predict and seems
promising, which is why they are spending so
Harry Veeder wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michel Jullian wrote:
Paul,
1/ If you think the potential vs potential energy remark was just
humor, you are showing great ignorance. Look up the definition of
voltage = electric potential:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_potential
today. In the same sense, what may seem impossible
to QM will be predictable and trivial. Lets hope M-theory is closer to
the truth.
Regards,
Paul Lowrance
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 3:58 AM
Subject: Re
Michel Jullian wrote:
(*) To Paul: typing this makes me realize that you cannot
consistently deny the concept of potential energy and accept that of
voltage (potential) :-)
Michel, Michel, Michel ... we went over this. As previously stated, I
do not consider the electric field as
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michel Jullian wrote:
A wave packet coalescing into a point-like particle when it hits
the screen, yes that's about as close to common sense understandability
as it can get. Makes one realize the wave aspect of particles is a hard
fact
John Berry wrote:
Ok, let's say that one of us (I haven't BTW) finds out how to crack this
Free Energy nut.
And Antigravity, and Healing/Rejuvenation.
By discovering a new branch of physics which makes the things above
and more
easily doable.
Obviously like any technology it could be
), it is not 'potential', and it is also the most
fundamental since fields are defined from forces, not the other way
round as is commonly thought.
How does the work approach fit with your violation theory?
Michel
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday
StifflerScientific wrote:
Hogwash! You left out one major aspect; goodness will prevail in the
long run. The government you speak of will one day be replaced with
something wonderful. You're looking at an uprising in people against
controlling governments. The people cannot be enslaved
John Berry wrote:
Still no one has really answered the whole question, which is
basically what
would happen to this world where it currently is if it was suddenly given
technology which is at a level seen in Star Trek?
I already answered. Change equals pain, or energy depending how you
Terry Blanton wrote:
On 1/30/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Do you have a link to the rexresearch vortex image?
Oh, I'm sorry. I thought everyone ou true believer knew about RR :-)
http://www.rexresearch.com/1index.htm
It's really kewl!
Terry
I knew of rexresearch
Michel Jullian wrote:
Well I am surprised, I thought you were expecting free energy from
such setups.
As I've stated many times before, it's *temporary* energy, unless the
two atoms annihilate. What is unknown according to standard model is
where the energy comes from. In the case of two
Terry Blanton wrote:
On 1/31/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I knew of rexresearch, as I purchased nearly 3 feet stacked high of
their infolios ~20 years ago. :-) What I still don't know is what
vortex image you are referring to.
Let's see if I can attach it to a Vortex-l
David Thomson wrote:
Hi Paul,
Here's an interesting 4-dimensional vortex of an atom. The flat plane
slicing through the center would be the 3-dimensions; i.e., where the
two vortexes meet.
http://www.unarius.org/plasma/vortex.gif
This is a very nice image.
Those are great questions.
Harry Veeder wrote:
Energy and money are two sides of the same coin.
When energy is used money is spent.
When energy is stored, money is saved.
By energy I mean only the precise _technical definition_
of energy.
Energy is no more or less real than money.
Energy is no more or less
Michel Jullian wrote:
Temporary energy, which you can retrieve once but have to expend
entirely to be able to retrieve it once more.
Under normal circumstances, yes. Note that I've stated from the start
of this thread that it's temporary energy. On the other hand, read my
previous posts
OrionWorks wrote:
From: Michel Jullian
Indeed the double slit experiment with only one single photon or
electron traversing the experiment at a time is an awesome proof
of the shortcomings of our common sense (mine in any case)! Can
anyone _really_ make sense of why they form interference
Terry Blanton wrote:
On 1/30/07, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks! That's a powerful theory. I'll have to study
it when time permits. You forgot
part 2 --
http://www.geocities.com/terry1094/HotsonPart2.pdf
Paul,
I have read it about 5 times now and am beginning to grasp
Vortexians- The evening news on ABC ststed that the clock watchers
are going to add a leap second to the last second of
Dec.31,2005 to correct the clocks to the earths rotation.
It seems that they have had to add 23 seconds since
1972 to correct
Vortexians- I am not a devout christian- But I must admit
the elelgant simplicity of Christ teachings and
the simple requirements to enter heaven make it
the most God like of all teachings.
To enter heaven one must -believe- be baptised-
Vortexians-Do you think its possible that Paul was refering
to one flesh in relationship to disease.
I am sure there was Vd back then and being of
one flesh would mean it would share the diseases
of one another.- Ges-
Vortexians- The situation in France is a preview of coming attractions.
I would be more inclined to think the Al-quada is helping
to encourage the unrest.
The only real and long time solution is a repatronization
of the Muslim's and others back to
Jed-What a name- Anal Are YA? Wow.- Ges
Vortexians- I some times wonder- How much money would be enough
for the rich and greedy?
The average person of today can work is whole live
and justmake a million dollars if he never misses a
day of work.
Yet the rich and greedy can
Vortexians- Any type of hydrogen source would be acceptable.
Either hydrogen made on board or hydrogen bought from
your local supplier. I was hopping the race would also
demonstrate the infracstructure requirements and solutions
for the so called
Vortexians- Maybe what we need is another great race like the one
the FEDs did for the self controled car in the mojave.
WE need to race different versions of a hydrogen power
vehicle from La to NyC with a 10 million dollar price at
the end.The
Vortexians- This plan for infertility is stupid and unnessary.
Are race for throw away convenice has all ready
lowered the sperm production of man. The plastic's we
use everyday out gas a memic to the female hormone
estrogen. This out gassing
Vortexians- We still need heat in the winter in most countries.
I can not see going back to the cold climate of the
original VW beetle. Give me a water cooled .
-ges-
Vortwxians- If CF would come out tomorrow we would still
need our reservoirs for twenty years. The new system
would require a gradual replacement of all powered
systems that run on oil and gas.
This could not happen over nite- we no longer have the
Vortexians- Is it not true that we have enough coal for at least
300-500 years.
Isn't possible to make a less polluting fuel
such as methanol or methane gas from this coal.
We are still ignoring one of our other problems
which could
Please note: forwarded message attached
---BeginMessage---
GRADUATION IN 1895
What it took to get an
8th grade education in
1895
Remember when grandparents and
great-grandparents stated that they only had an
8th grade education? Well, check this out.
Could any of us have passed the
Vortexians- Didn't our revolutionary War start in april 1775.?
Vortex Group- A while back it was observed that China was begining
A space programm. I am willing to bet that China has
A man or/ men on the moon by 2010- they will probably
have a colonny by 2018 and or men on mars by 2018.
Vortexians- Could we be seeing the the prelude to an ICE AGE.
Which they say is preceded by a warming or melt back.
The Glaciers are melting- the ice from the artic
and anartic is breaking up, maybe mother nature is
getting ready to recycle the
Gentlemen -my Kudo's to Tony Blair for announcing the arrest
and deportation of those people wanting to destroy the
the freedom of the English people.
They want to use there freedoms to destroy the freedoms
of the English people who invited them to England.
Gentlemen- Will Rodgers said it best- It Seems-
The only thing worst than taxation without
representation is taxation with representation
The only hope is we elect once in awhile
someone who acually has the interest of the
average
Gentlemen- This is one thing that I strongly believe in-
I think we should have one hundred percent recycling.
IT can never work at anthing less than county
or state level. I do believe it would create jobs at
all levels of education.
It
Stephan Vincent Johnson.- If the government does have evidence
of UFO'S . When would they tell us.-the people.
It seems we should be mature enough to handle it at this time.
If not now when?-Unless there are no Ufo's-GES
Jed- I don't think that C F is inviolation of the traditional laws
of physics. I think its an another method where as the laws
can act to produce fusion. GES
To Jed- I was raised on the farm-with cattle- pigs-chickens-dogs and
cats. I have all kinds of Allergies.- George S.
My evaluation of this coming technology is the same as
in the past. The smarter the computer becomes the
dumer people become.
We are setting ourselves up to be the perfect victims
of the philophescy of the Taliban and Al-quida.
All they will need to do is write a
The Jet engine as we know it was developed by the English-
and the Germans. The first Passenger Jet was built by the
English and called the Comet.
Having rode in it a couple of times -I felt like the thing was
unstable and with its weird noises I had a doomsday feeling. Ges
Mike- I would guess what the Egyptians did not have is
an abundance of wood to make forms.-Ges-
What I ask again is the PROMETHEUS EFFECT?
I only know that Prometheus showed man how
to use fire. So What is his effect?-ges
What is the Prometheus effect? From what I have read
Prometheus is the Greek god who took fire from the
Gods on MT. Olympus and gave it to man-for which he was
punished by Zeus.- GES
Would not these flying kites cast a shadow up on the Earth
depriving us of the suns energy?- Ges-
Was not Peter and Paul both Jews first then Christ converts.
Ges-
The social security thing with Bush is a rous it is away
of looking busy without doing anything.
He knows congress won't let him so drasticly change the system.
Like he knew the nation would never change the constitution
for laws on gay marriage. Look people Im busy so says Gwb.
Jed- I don't know where you got this info that auto engines
can't last more than 180,000 miles. I drove a dodge diplomat V8
for 267,000 miles without an overhaul- the famous 318ci engine.
I drove a mazda 4cy. pickup for 215,000 miles - I had to junk
because the body was
Frank- Water injection was used for the afterburnners.-Ges
Horace- Could the water over unity phenomina be the the power of
Hurricanes? ges-
Could it be that scientific discoverys are also subject
to the bell curve and we made be over the rise portion .
Some thing to think about anyhow.-GES-
Vortexer's- What does the preamble to the constituion say?
I seem to have a memory that something about God
is included.- GES
The Barron's nerve idea is interesting.
The thing is if we could read ,measure ,or hear the pulse's,
we would still need and interputer device.GES
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