Re: [Vo]:E-Cat proven to be a hoax?

2011-06-21 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message From: Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 1:13:52 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:E-Cat proven to be a hoax? Does it buz when it is boiling, like a pressure pan? It has no whistle if that is what you mean. BTW

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat proven to be a hoax?

2011-06-21 Thread Harry Veeder
The heat loss is small but I don't think it is insignificant. The pipes under the insulation conduct heat away from the reactor vessel and some of this heat is absorbed by the insulation rather than going into the water.  However, don't ask me to calculate it! ;-) harry - Original

Re: [Vo]:Something more on the steam

2011-06-21 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 2:56:38 PM Subject: RE: [Vo]:Something more on the steam -Original Message- From: Stephen A. Lawrence But it's pointless. Well, to be honest - this entire

Re: [Vo]:Something more on the steam

2011-06-21 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message From: Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 1:57:55 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Something more on the steam On 11-06-21 01:46 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: - Original Message From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomaxa

Re: [Vo]:Something more on the steam

2011-06-21 Thread Harry Veeder
what should the plume look like? GoatGuy is only guessing what he thinks it should look like. To get some idea, take two electric kettles and merge the spouts into one long hose. Harry  - Original Message From: Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue,

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat proven to be a hoax?

2011-06-21 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com; vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 9:12:25 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:E-Cat proven to be a hoax? At 02:32 PM 6/21/2011, Harry Veeder wrote: BTW regarding heat loss issues

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat proven to be a hoax?

2011-06-21 Thread Harry Veeder
From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 9:28:08 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:E-Cat proven to be a hoax? Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: How's this for a theory: The E-Cat is not boiling much of the water, only a little. The pump is

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat proven to be a hoax?

2011-06-21 Thread Harry Veeder
I wrote:  If the probe can recognize water-mist but can't discriminate between water-gas  and other air-gases then I can understand how it can tell us the dryness of the steam plume. However if the probe can't distinguish between water-gas and water-mist it is useless for determining

[Vo]:relative humidity

2011-06-21 Thread Harry Veeder
from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relative_humidity -- A common misconception Often the notion of air holding water vapor is presented to describe the concept of relative humidity. This, however, is a misconception. Air is a mixture of gases (nitrogen, oxygen, argon, water vapor,

[Vo]:Steam quality and humidity

2011-06-20 Thread Harry Veeder
We all know a humidity probe was use to estimated the steam quality. The probe tells you the density of water in the air. This can be used with the temperature to calculate the steam quality by mass OR volume. Since the steam quality was not measured directly by volume or mass so I don't

Re: [Vo]:[Video] Andrea Rossi Explains His Energy Catalyzer (NET - June 14, 2011)

2011-06-20 Thread Harry Veeder
He beams the water out with a teleporter. ;) Haary - Original Message From: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 6:46:02 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[Video] Andrea Rossi Explains His Energy Catalyzer (NET - June 14, 2011) Unless liquid

Re: [Vo]:[Video] Andrea Rossi Explains His Energy Catalyzer (NET - June 14, 2011)

2011-06-20 Thread Harry Veeder
Terry wrote:  How the hell do they know for sure that liquid water is not flowing out the hose?   Terry speak for how the hell do I know for sure that liquid water is not flowing into the hose? If you agree that steam is passing through the hose, then if water is also flowing in the

Re: [Vo]:[Video] Andrea Rossi Explains His Energy Catalyzer (NET - June 14, 2011)

2011-06-20 Thread Harry Veeder
Goat Guy did not account for the heat loss over the length of the tube. Harry - Original Message From: Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 9:08:31 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[Video] Andrea Rossi Explains His Energy Catalyzer (NET - June

Re: [Vo]:[Video] Andrea Rossi Explains His Energy Catalyzer (NET - June 14, 2011)

2011-06-20 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message From: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 8:34:56 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[Video] Andrea Rossi Explains His Energy Catalyzer (NET - June 14, 2011) On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Harry Veeder hlvee...@yahoo.com

Re: [Vo]:[Video] Andrea Rossi Explains His Energy Catalyzer (NET - June 14, 2011)

2011-06-20 Thread Harry Veeder
The temperature of steam-vapour (consisting of microscopic water droplets) is slightly cooler than the temperature of the steam-gas. If the temperature did not drop the invisible gas wouldn't condense to become visible vapour. Rossi is not spouting BS. Harry   - Original Message

Re: Re: [Vo]:Something more on the steam

2011-06-20 Thread Harry Veeder
It is misleading (and slightly anal) to believe precision measurements of steam quality are required to prove it is not a scam. As Jed says for an effect of this magnitude rough and ready estimation methods suffice: quickly feel the steam and view the steam where it exits the reactor. If it

Re: [Vo]:Rossi: our reactors now produce a totally dry steam

2011-06-19 Thread Harry Veeder
Jed Rothwell wrote: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: He [Rossi] could apologize. What would he lose if he did? Nothing that I can see! It would be out of character. Yeah, just like Steven Kirvit could apologize for insinuating incompetency. lol. Harry

Re: [Vo]:Why Levi is upset

2011-06-19 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message From: Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, June 19, 2011 12:03:30 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Why Levi is upset Ooops, overlooked something in your message. On 11-06-19 11:39 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: 3. The second test with

Re: [Vo]:Why Levi is upset

2011-06-19 Thread Harry Veeder
, Harry Veeder wrote: If I recall correctly someone wrote on the vortex list back in feburary or march that Galantini never wrote a report, so that fact is not news. Steven Kirvit managed to catch Levi uttering a 'white lie' to *him*. Is that fact news? Try read the following comment

Re: [Vo]:Why Levi is upset

2011-06-19 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message From: Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, June 19, 2011 8:01:26 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Why Levi is upset On 11-06-18 10:57 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: On 11-06-18 09:21 PM, Terry Blanton wrote

Re: [Vo]:Something more on the steam

2011-06-19 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message From: Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, June 19, 2011 9:09:23 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Something more on the steam On 11-06-19 06:44 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to  Stephen A. Lawrence's message of Sun, 19 Jun

[Vo]:Why Levi is upset

2011-06-18 Thread Harry Veeder
Why Levi is upset is more evident in this exchange between Steven Krivit and Luigi Versaggi P. https://www.facebook.com/#!/notes/cold-fusion-andrea-rossi-method/i-made-a-question-to-steven-krivit/235485236468276 If I recall correctly someone wrote on the vortex list back in feburary or march

Re: [Vo]:Why Levi is upset

2011-06-18 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message From: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, June 18, 2011 9:21:53 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Why Levi is upset I don't think Galantini is a thermodynamics expert.  Jed is right about sparging the steam. Why do they insist on using

Re: [Vo]:Why Levi is upset

2011-06-18 Thread Harry Veeder
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: On 11-06-18 09:21 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: I don't think Galantini is a thermodynamics expert.  Jed is right about sparging the steam. Why do they insist on using phase change measurements anyway?  There are a dozen better ways to measure energy flow.

[Vo]:OT: You Insult me, sir

2011-06-18 Thread Harry Veeder
I picked this article only because it was one of the first links I found after googling you insult me, sir. It refers to a study of honour killings associated with a culture of honour based on strength and reputation.  It is not hard to imagine a culture of honour which is based on competency

[Vo]:OT: Stellar water sprinkler

2011-06-18 Thread Harry Veeder
Star Found Shooting Water Bullets Stellar sprinklers may help irrigate cosmos, study suggests. http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2011/06/110613-space-science-star-water-bullets-kristensen/ The amount of water ejecting from the star is equal to the amount that flows through the Amazon

Re: [Vo]:Steve Krivit's initiative

2011-06-17 Thread Harry Veeder
Abd wrote: I understand that Rossi has reasons to avoid making everything plain and clear. However, that doesn't allow him to impugn the integrity of a journalist. It makes him an asshole, even if he turns out to be a rich one. I suspect Rossi and Levi also feel their integrity has been

Re: [Vo]:Steve Krivit's initiative

2011-06-17 Thread Harry Veeder
Harry wrote: Abd wrote: I understand that Rossi has reasons to avoid making everything plain and clear. However, that doesn't allow him to impugn the integrity of a journalist. It makes him an asshole, even if he turns out to be a rich one. I suspect Rossi and Levi also

[Vo]:New Italian video on CF.

2011-06-16 Thread Harry Veeder
New video in italian with some historical excerpts in english. Harry Low Energy Nuclear Revolution http://vimeo.com/25150844 by Giacomo Guidi 1 day ago1 day ago: Wed, Jun 15, 2011 3:24pm EST (Eastern Standard Time) Un ingegnere e uno scienziato presentano al pubblico un controverso

Re: [Vo]:Steve Krivit's initiative

2011-06-16 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com; vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, June 15, 2011 10:58:59 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Steve Krivit's initiative At 02:30 PM 6/14/2011, Harry Veeder wrote: Since the Widom-Larsen theory explains

[Vo]:Fusion as process or result

2011-06-16 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com; vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, June 15, 2011 10:52:34 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Steve Krivit's initiative At 02:15 PM 6/14/2011, Alan Fletcher wrote: He sure is a hard-liner on the term Cold

Re: [Vo]:A Third Way

2011-06-15 Thread Harry Veeder
*orbiting* a negatively charged ion be more likely to undergo spontaneous fusion with ion's nucleus than two free protons wondering around at room temperature? Harry   From: Harry Veeder hlvee...@yahoo.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, June 14, 2011 9:29:04 PM Subject: Re: [Vo

[Vo]:OT:Economic crisis and post-capitalism

2011-06-15 Thread Harry Veeder
Economic crisis and post-capitalism http://www.redpepper.org.uk/economic-crisis-and-post-capitalism/ First of all, it involves recognising that maximising the growth of output is not a valid guiding principle of economic management in a modern society. While in pre-industrial societies, where

Re: [Vo]:Steve Krivit's initiative

2011-06-15 Thread Harry Veeder
Has the black wrapping replaced the tin foil or is the foil underneath? What sort of material is black wrapping? Harry   - Original Message From: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, June 15, 2011 7:33:22 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Steve Krivit's

Re: [Vo]:Steve Krivit's initiative

2011-06-14 Thread Harry Veeder
Since the Widom-Larsen theory explains the positive results, can it also explain the negative results.  A good theory should be able to do both. Harry From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, June 14, 2011 10:21:54 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Steve Krivit's

Re: [Vo]:A Third Way

2011-06-14 Thread Harry Veeder
This have very large orbits, but might heavy rydberg systems play role? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_Rydberg_system (They were first observed in 2000) Harry From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, June 14, 2011 8:07:55 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:A Third Way I

Re: [Vo]:A Third Way

2011-06-14 Thread Harry Veeder
Would a proton *orbiting* a negatively charged ion be more likely to undergo spontaneous fusion with ion's nucleus than two free protons wondering around at room temperature? Harry   From: Harry Veeder hlvee...@yahoo.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, June 14, 2011 9:29:04 PM Subject: Re

[Vo]:Steven Chu looks at LANR/CF

2011-06-13 Thread Harry Veeder
Steven Chu looks at Lattice-assisted Nuclear Reactions Cold Fusion http://the-explorer.com/steven-chu-looks-at-lattice-assisted-nuclear-reactions-cold-fusion/2011/3429583.html/ Was Chu at the conference on the weekend? Harry

Re: [Vo]:Steven Chu looks at LANR/CF

2011-06-13 Thread Harry Veeder
The story was posted by someone named tina: http://the-explorer.com/author/tina/ Harry   Jed Rothwell wrote: Harry Veeder wrote: Steven Chu looks at Lattice-assisted Nuclear Reactions Cold Fusion http://the-explorer.com/steven-chu-looks-at-lattice-assisted-nuclear-reactions-cold

Re: [Vo]:Steven Chu looks at LANR/CF

2011-06-13 Thread Harry Veeder
Yeah the commentors here agree: http://coldfusionnow.wordpress.com/2011/06/13/energy-secretary-chu-looking-at-lanrcf/#comments   Sorry, I should have dug a little deeper before posting this.   Harry - Original Message From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com

Re: [Vo]:Dr Steven Chu and Dr Mitchell Swartz website

2011-06-13 Thread Harry Veeder
The title of his press release is a link, so he is not the author. Harry From: Ron Kita chiralex.k...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: chira...@msn.com; tekcor...@yahoo.com Sent: Mon, June 13, 2011 7:57:13 PM Subject: [Vo]:Dr Steven Chu and Dr Mitchell Swartz website Greetings Vortex-l:

[Vo]:the X-zylo

2011-06-12 Thread Harry Veeder
How does it fly? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9U3xFu0MIdo Harry

Re: [Vo]:2011 Colloquium MIT Tomorrow

2011-06-11 Thread Harry Veeder
Does anyone know if it is being recorded on video? Harry - Original Message From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, June 9, 2011 10:34:15 PM Subject: [Vo]:2011 Colloquium MIT Tomorrow http://world.std.com/~mica/2011colloq.html Speakers:  Peter

[Vo]:Cold Fusion Ready for Commercial Production?

2011-06-10 Thread Harry Veeder
ISIS Report 06/06/11 Cold Fusion Ready for Commercial Production? Prototype device tested in public with impressive results, and commercial production scheduled to begin end of 2011, but naysayers call it a scam. http://www.i-sis.org.uk/Cold_Fusion_Ready_for_Commercial_Production.php (from

[Vo]:Villa and Ferrari answer question

2011-06-10 Thread Harry Veeder
On facebook 'Rats Gautam' sent emails to all the individuals mentioned in Loris Ferrari's article but only received responses from Mauro Villa and Loris Ferrari himself. He posted their responses here: https://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/EnergyCatalyzer The short answer is they are not

[Vo]:New way to convert heat into electricity

2011-06-09 Thread Harry Veeder
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/solar-power-nantennan-research-eletricity-power,news-11217.html While he did not provide specifics, the university stated that the scientist developed a nantenna - a thin, moldable sheet of small antennas - that can harvest the heat from industrial processes and

Re: [Vo]:The Rossi device is not a heat pump

2011-06-05 Thread Harry Veeder
cool! In theory fusion can be endothermic or exothermic depending on the atomic numbers of the participating atoms. Heck, the same goes for fission. Lets wait for Brian's isotopic analysis. Harry From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, June 5, 2011 12:08:04

[Vo]:Piezonucleare

2011-06-05 Thread Harry Veeder
somebody sent me this video link. Its in italian news report concerning neutron production when a rock is fractured.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onoqKPwVv5o Harry

Re: [Vo]:test

2011-06-02 Thread Harry Veeder
After studying so hard I was expecting a B. sigh. Harry - Original Message From: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, June 1, 2011 8:56:46 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:test On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 8:50 PM, Harry Veeder hlvee...@yahoo.com wrote

Re: [Vo]:Joshua Cude and a repeated misrepresentation, patents, and a discussion of the chimera of cold fusion

2011-06-02 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, June 2, 2011 11:05:32 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Joshua Cude and a repeated misrepresentation, patents, and a discussion of the chimera of cold fusion At 07:17 PM 6/2/2011, Joshua

[Vo]:test

2011-06-01 Thread Harry Veeder
this is just a test Harry

[Vo]:Blondlot on observing N-rays with the naked eye.

2011-05-28 Thread Harry Veeder
I've noticed that a star will appear slightly brighter when I shift my focus just to the side of the star. Harry   How the Action of N Rays Should be Observed It is indispensable in these experiments to avoid all strain on the eye, all effort, whether visual or for eye accommodation, and in no

[Vo]:Photographic records of the Action of N-Rays

2011-05-28 Thread Harry Veeder
http://www.rexresearch.com/blondlot/nrays.htm#18 Scientific American (October 14, 1905), p. 299 Photographic Records of the Action of N-Rays   The much discussed problem of the existence of N rays could be settled only by an objective demonstration of their effects. As these rays exert no

[Vo]:N-Rays / was :Joshua Cude at it

2011-05-25 Thread Harry Veeder
Written in 1993, the author investigates the debunking of N-Rays because he sees similarities with the tatics employed to debunk cold fusion and homeopathy. An interesting read! Harry The Theatre of the Blind: Starring a Promethean Prankster, a Phoney Phenomenon, a Prism, a Pocket, and a

[Vo]:Philosophy as complementary science

2011-05-23 Thread Harry Veeder
http://www.philosophypress.co.uk/?p=375 Philosophy as complementary science Written by: Hasok Chang | Appears in: Issue 40 Hasok Chang sees a new role for the history and philosophy of science What is the use of philosophy? That is a challenging question to answer in the modern intellectual

Re: [Vo]:Re: Ekstrom on a Swedish blog -- fuel -- Kullander -- Uppsala eCat after June

2011-05-21 Thread Harry Veeder
That explains why Ekstrom provided this link:   Cold fusion: A case study for scientific behavior http://undsci.berkeley.edu/article/0_0_0/cold_fusion_01 This twelve page article uses a check-list of good scientific practice to explain how Pons and Flieschman practiced bad science, while the

[Vo]:Rossi eCat in Italian Nuclear Forum

2011-05-17 Thread Harry Veeder
The May 10th news section of Italian Nuclear Forum has a brief article on the Rossi eCat and the upcoming October demonstration. http://www.forumnucleare.it/index.php/notizie/notizie2/fusione-fredda-in-ottobre-esami-generatore-rossi-e-focardi   excerpt: Il principio sul quale si basano i

[Vo]:Quantum equations from Brownian motion

2011-05-17 Thread Harry Veeder
The math is over my head, but if QM can be derived by applying the heisenberg uncertainty relation to the mathematics of brownian motion (which is a combination of probability theory and classical or pre-quantum physics) it suggests, at least to me, that non-local connections are more common 

Re: [Vo]:Self Running Free Energy

2011-05-16 Thread Harry Veeder
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Harry Veeder hlvee...@yahoo.com wrote: the designer now says: it was all a fake...someone came to visit...the device has probably been destroyed... http://pesn.com/2011/05/11/9501823_Romeros_Self-Sustaining_Muller_Dynamo_Drama The same old story. Harry From

[Vo]:OT was:Rossi beat all the scientists because . . .

2011-05-16 Thread Harry Veeder
From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, May 16, 2011 2:01:29 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi beat all the scientists because . . . Its money; the profit motive. The difference between science and engineering is the pursuit of money.   The pursuit of money made the

Re: [Vo]:Self Running Free Energy

2011-05-15 Thread Harry Veeder
Energy He had large offers he turned down, it is pretty transparent that he was scared off. The claim that he faked it does n't agree with the evidence. On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Harry Veeder hlvee...@yahoo.com wrote: the designer now says: it was all a fake...someone came to visit

Re: [Vo]: MAJOR eCat plans : 1MW USA Customer ?

2011-05-13 Thread Harry Veeder
Jones, I hope you are wrong. Another possibility is that Defkalion knows that Rossi's patent claims are very weak or even futile. The 1mW plant will serve to impress investors and *secure* loads of money quickly so that they can stay ahead of the competition, at least for a while. Harry My

Re: [Vo]:One-man Stonehenge

2011-05-13 Thread Harry Veeder
yes, from those photos it is clear that they were not simply unfinished spheres. Harry From: francis froarty...@comcast.net To: hlvee...@yahoo.com Cc: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, May 13, 2011 1:03:20 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:One-man Stonehenge Harry, they appear to be an intentional variation

Re: [Vo]:Self Running Free Energy

2011-05-13 Thread Harry Veeder
the designer now says: it was all a fake...someone came to visit...the device has probably been destroyed... http://pesn.com/2011/05/11/9501823_Romeros_Self-Sustaining_Muller_Dynamo_Drama The same old story. Harry From: John Berry aethe...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, May 8,

Re: [Vo]:One-man Stonehenge

2011-05-12 Thread Harry Veeder
Think about how you would carve an oblong stone into a smooth sphere. The bumpy balls may simply be unfinished spheres. Harry From: Wm. Scott Smith scott...@hotmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 11:24:53 PM Subject: [Vo]:One-man Stonehenge When the first European

[Vo]:The Myth of the Boiling Point

2011-05-11 Thread Harry Veeder
http://www.ucl.ac.uk/sts/staff/chang/boiling/index.htm   The Myth of the Boiling Point Hasok Chang Department of Science and Technology Studies University College London 18 October 2007 Introduction We all learn at school that pure water always boils at 100°C (212°F), under normal

Re: [Vo]:The Myth of the Boiling Point

2011-05-11 Thread Harry Veeder
: Harry Veeder hlvee...@yahoo.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, May 11, 2011 3:50:15 PM Subject: [Vo]:The Myth of the Boiling Point http://www.ucl.ac.uk/sts/staff/chang/boiling/index.htm The Myth of the Boiling Point  Hasok Chang Department of Science and Technology Studies University

Re: [Vo]:NyTeknik reports on Rossi patent

2011-05-09 Thread Harry Veeder
How does the Rossi device drive the electromigration of copper? Harry From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, May 9, 2011 9:43:33 AM Subject: RE: [Vo]:NyTeknik reports on Rossi patent In a quick count of metals employed in this patent, copper is mentioned

Re: [Vo]:NyTeknik reports on Rossi patent

2011-05-09 Thread Harry Veeder
From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, May 9, 2011 1:23:07 PM Subject: RE: [Vo]:NyTeknik reports on Rossi patent From:Harry Veeder   How does the Rossi device drive the electromigration of copper?       Galvanic corrosion …. Well known between nickel and

[Vo]:Another hidden power source for the sake of book keeping

2011-05-09 Thread Harry Veeder
The H2 gas is stored under pressure. This means the H2 tank contains a significant amount of mechanical energy separate from the energy of combustion. However, this contributes negligible amounts of power given that only a gram to a few grams of gas were used during the tests. Harry

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:cu pipe is sealed inner reactor not Stainless steele

2011-05-09 Thread Harry Veeder
Fran, The new US patent is really an old patent. The contents of the Italian patent that was just granted have not been seen by anyone. Harry   From: Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, May 9, 2011 8:56:21 PM Subject: RE:

Re: [Vo]:This may be the entire patent

2011-05-09 Thread Harry Veeder
'Tony' posted this analysis on April 22 on Rossi's blog http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=473cpage=5#comments I think somewhere there is a follow up post but I can't find it right now. Harry - Original Message From: Kyle Mcallister kyle_mcallis...@yahoo.com To:

Re: [Vo]:RE: Supersizing the BJT

2011-05-08 Thread Harry Veeder
Presumably the external band heater is necessary for the smaller E-cat because the internal heater cannot provide enough heat at start up unlike the internal heater of the larger E-cat. So while the external _heater_ may not be necessary, the extra _heat_ is necessary for start-up.  A 

Re: [Vo]:Only one size E-Cat?

2011-05-08 Thread Harry Veeder
I am not sure about the size of E-Cat's stomach, but the foil covered animal from janurary appears to be slightly longer  from nose to tail than the march/april animal. Harry From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, May 8, 2011 12:38:29 PM Subject: RE:

Re: [Vo]:Only one size E-Cat?

2011-05-08 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message From: peatbog peat...@teksavvy.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, May 8, 2011 1:00:00 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Only one size E-Cat? If Steorn, with a bunch of engineers working for it, could make a measurement error and not spot it for a year or more, and

Re: [Vo]:Self Running Free Energy

2011-05-08 Thread Harry Veeder
The orientation of the magnets reminds me of Thane Heins' Perepiteia. Harry From: John Berry aethe...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, May 8, 2011 8:18:41 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Self Running Free Energy BTW, that thing dangling is an Electrolytic cap, not a battery. He has shared most

[Vo]:PM Orbo revisited

2011-05-08 Thread Harry Veeder
CLaNZeR is revisiting the very first claim by Steorn by constructing his own very well built apparatus. In his latest video he notes some unusual speeding up and slowing down...(or is it just a glitch...?)     Automated PM-Orbo Rig Part 14

[Vo]:NASA Working on LENR Replication and Theory Confirmation

2011-05-07 Thread Harry Veeder
NASA Working on LENR Replication and Theory Confirmation http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2011/05/06/nasa-working-on-lenr-replication-and-theory-confirmation/ Harry

Re: [Vo]:Casimir Cavities.

2011-05-07 Thread Harry Veeder
I guess Casimir didn't like going to the dentist. harry ;-)   - Original Message From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, May 7, 2011 1:43:50 PM Subject: RE: [Vo]:Casimir Cavities. This (Cavity QED) is probably a good start:

Re: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent

2011-05-07 Thread Harry Veeder
I posted this information on the _Cold Fusion Andrea Rossi Method_ Facebook page It has attracted over 1000 fans now... Harry Akira Shirakawa wrote: Hello group, This is straight from Wikipedia: * * *

Re: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent

2011-05-07 Thread Harry Veeder
https://www.facebook.com/#!/EnergyCatalyzer Harry I posted this information on the _Cold Fusion Andrea Rossi Method_ Facebook page It has attracted over 1000 fans now... Harry Akira Shirakawa wrote: Hello group, This is straight from Wikipedia: * * *

[Vo]:OT: Rebooting Civilization

2011-05-04 Thread Harry Veeder
Science writer Bob Holmes says our daily lives are filled with the accidents of history. The seven-day-work-week, the 24-hour-day, the layout of your computer keyboard -- he says these are all things that no clear-thinking person would ever create today. We're asking what our society would look

[Vo]:NASA is not going to replicate E-Cat

2011-05-03 Thread Harry Veeder
http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2011/05/02/rumor-of-nasa-replication-attempt-of-rossi-is-false/ Harry

Re: [Vo]:Lewan video is informative

2011-05-02 Thread Harry Veeder
This E-cat seems not to be connected to a hydrogen supply. Harry From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, May 2, 2011 3:35:17 PM Subject: [Vo]:Lewan video is informative This article has a 4.5 minute video linked at the top of the page:

Re: [Vo]:Old, but MAJOR clue about the Rossi CATALYST?

2011-05-01 Thread Harry Veeder
CoE is mathematically derived from CoM which in turn is based on mechanical wold view of motion which says all acceleration should be explained by collisions. The concept of a force is a useful mathematical tool for analysing and predicting motion when a collision based explanation of

Re: [Vo]:Non-Chemical Heat Phenomenon Label more neutral.

2011-05-01 Thread Harry Veeder
Yes there is fairly convincing evidence of tritium and helium production, however the evidence that they are produced in same ratio as plasma fusion is really meager. Whether the source of heat should be attributed to fusion in the same sense as it is attributed to fusion in a plasma reactor OR 

Re: [Vo]:Non-Chemical Heat Phenomenon Label more neutral.

2011-05-01 Thread Harry Veeder
I sometimes think the corona gets so hot because it is depleted of cold. The cold migrates from the corona to the interior to the sun, where it is converted into EM radiation by nucleosynthesis. Harry   From: Wm. Scott Smith scott...@hotmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, May 1, 2011

[Vo]:cell phones

2011-04-30 Thread Harry Veeder
http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-04-previously-unaccounted-mechanism-cell.html (PhysOrg.com) -- The long running debate on whether cell phones are capable of damaging human tissue and causing health problems received new fuel from a paper published at arXiv by theoretical biologist Bill Bruno

Re: [Vo]:ZPE Transmutation???

2011-04-29 Thread Harry Veeder
The Cold is similiar to inertia. It discourages acceleration. Cold fusion involves absorption of the cold thereby allowing molecules to accelerate and heat things up.  Harry - only  1/3 joking From: Wm. Scott Smith scott...@hotmail.com To: prot...@frii.com; vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu,

Re: [Vo]:3 TVA Plants knocked offline by tornadoes

2011-04-29 Thread Harry Veeder
haha... hmmm ...actually the disaster at the Fukushima plant could have been prevented if one reactor was left running to temporarily power the all the plant's saftey backups. Harry   - Original Message From: Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Fri,

Re: [Vo]:97 E-CATS in Operation at 4 sites

2011-04-29 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message From: mix...@bigpond.com mix...@bigpond.com However I don't think roads will ever be heated anyway, because I expect lifter based air transport to take off in a big way, so roads may become largely redundant. (lifters are less energy efficient than fixed wing

Re: [Vo]:The 12.4 kW claims of january 14 wrong?

2011-04-29 Thread Harry Veeder
Robin wrote: In reply to  Jones Beene's message of Fri, 29 Apr 2011 18:12:49 -0700: Hi, [snip] I am certain that this means that the copper CANNOT be the result of a nuclear process. ..it could be if Rossi enhanced the Ni62/64 isotopes as he claims to have done. (however I must

Re: [Vo]:The 12.4 kW claims of january 14 wrong?

2011-04-29 Thread Harry Veeder
Jed Rothwell wrote: It does not matter what the patent says. The larger cell is steel on the outside. They will soon find out if it is steel on the inside as well. If it is, we have a mystery. If it turns out to be copper, that will explain things. In that event it will be surprising that

Re: [Vo]:Bushnell interview in EVworld

2011-04-28 Thread Harry Veeder
Jones Beene wrote: This is fabulous news! Spread it around the WWW - as it could open up funding for many who are doing Rossi replications. Dr Dennis Bushnell (chief scientist at NASA's Langley Research Center) has now gone public with NASA's upcoming Rossi replication attempt! We had

[Vo]:Rossi will be on Italian TV

2011-04-27 Thread Harry Veeder
from the Rossi E-Cat facebook page:   On May 3 at 20:37 from Rainews24 channel the Italian state television RAI will broadcast on Andrea Rossi E-Cat   internet live streaming http://www.rainews24.it/it/canale-tv.php   Harry

Re: [Vo]:Comic gets it right

2011-04-25 Thread Harry Veeder
One of the early uses will be in green houses, followed by the construction of multistory green houses. With the ability to grow food year round the demand for fertilizers, herbicides and pesticides will drop, and more food will be grown locally. Harry From: Mark Iverson

Re: [Vo]:Detecting absolute motion

2011-04-24 Thread Harry Veeder
Mauro wrote:  I was just trying to emphasize, perhaps not a very good or clear way, that there are no relative velocities of the two clocks involved.    What matters is that when the clocks are together and are both at rest in the same frame they are both ticking at the same rate. The

Re: [Vo]:Detecting absolute motion

2011-04-24 Thread Harry Veeder
On Sat, 2011-04-23 at 23:43 -0700, Harry Veeder wrote: Mauro wrote: I was just trying to emphasize, perhaps not a very good or clear way, that there are no relative velocities of the two clocks involved.   What matters is that when the clocks are together

Re: [Vo]:Detecting absolute motion, quantum reloaded

2011-04-24 Thread Harry Veeder
If experiment does detect a difference in the arrival times won't the relativits just say it results from spatial contraction? Harry - Original Message From: Mauro Lacy ma...@lacy.com.ar To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, April 24, 2011 1:07:34 PM Subject: [Vo]:Detecting absolute

Re: [Vo]:Detecting absolute motion, quantum reloaded

2011-04-24 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message From: Mauro Lacy ma...@lacy.com.ar To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, April 24, 2011 1:56:43 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Detecting absolute motion, quantum reloaded On 04/24/2011 02:33 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: If experiment does detect a difference in the arrival

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