----- Original Message ----
> From: Stephen A. Lawrence <sa...@pobox.com>
> To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
> Sent: Sun, June 19, 2011 8:01:26 AM
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Why Levi is upset
> 
> 
> 
> On 11-06-18 10:57 PM, Harry Veeder wrote:
> > 
> > Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
> >> On 11-06-18 09:21 PM, Terry Blanton wrote:
> >>> I don't think Galantini is a thermodynamics expert.  Jed is right
> >>> about sparging the steam.
> >>> 
> >>> Why do they insist on using phase change measurements anyway?  There
> >>> are a dozen better ways to measure energy flow.
> >> OK, you asked for it, somebody should say it.  We've all been dancing 
around
> >> it, but it hasn't quite been said in so many words, so here it is:
> >> 
> >> It's a lot easier to produce phony results which look good when you do it 
>with
> >> a phase change of this sort.  Flow calorimetry with single-phase water is 
> >> a 
>lot
> >> harder to fool.
> >> 
> >> There, I said it, now you can claim I'm being pathologically skeptical and
> >> psychotically paranoid -- and I'll apologize profusely and eat every word 
> >> of 
>it,
> >> when ... and if ... this thing is finally either REPLICATED or 
>COMMERCIALIZED. But right now, IMO it smells, and it's smelled all along, and 
>smelly stuff
> >> hardly ever turns out to be pure gold.
> >> 
> > 
> > If you were Rossi the businessman, and you knew your device has turned water
> > into steam for short periods of time without any input power, wouldn't you 
>treat
> > the steam quality issue as a minor concern?
> > 
> 
> You're apparently speculating as to what Rossi might have been thinking in an 
>effort to explain the obvious fact that  he structured the experiment in a way 
>that would make it easy to obfuscate the output power, and then lied about the 
>steam quality to do just that.
> 
> Perhaps your defense of him is right, and perhaps it's wrong -- I can't read 
>his mind, and have no interest in trying.
> 


No, I mean he doesn't care if other people have concluded he is engaged in 
fraud 
or is incompetent based on his dubious steam quality measurements. He knows he 
has a device that is capable of generating heat without any input power, so 
he is very confident he has something that is physically and 
technologically significant. 

Harry 

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