Re: [Vo]:It's Time We Talked About the Box-Orbs..

2022-07-11 Thread Sean Logan
Robin, Would you like to propose an experiment, to help us learn about the nature of this Ocean? My pet theory is that the medium, through which radio waves travel, exists in more than three dimensions of space. Sean

Re: [Vo]:It's Time We Talked About the Box-Orbs..

2022-07-09 Thread Robin
In reply to Frank Grimer's message of Sat, 9 Jul 2022 07:32:55 +0100: Hi Frank, I don't think these are just questions for philosophers. If we ever hope to manipulate gravity, or inertia, then we need to have a better understanding of the "ocean". [snip] If no one clicked on ads companies would

Re: [Vo]:It's Time We Talked About the Box-Orbs..

2022-07-09 Thread Frank Grimer
Thanks for your reply. Robin (my favorite garden bird :-)). A well-known scientist (some say it was Bertrand Russell) once gave a public lecture on astronomy. He described how the earth orbits around the sun and how the sun, in turn, orbits around the center of a vast collection of stars called

[Vo]:Stirring a Bucket of Water, Thinking about Hysteresis

2022-07-08 Thread Sean Logan
Good evening, Have you ever stirred a bucket of water with a wooden spoon? If you go around in a circle, and go fast enough, a funnel will form in the surface of the water. I have been able to make funnels so big, I could stick my hand in without getting wet. It's like a water tornado.

Re: [Vo]:It's Time We Talked About the Box-Orbs..

2022-07-08 Thread Sean Logan
On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 1:51 PM Robin wrote: > In reply to Frank Grimer's message of Fri, 8 Jul 2022 10:21:32 +0100: > > >> why do like charges repel, and unlike charges attract? > >Because one is a source, the other is a sink at the bottom of a deep > ocean. > Yes, that's the way I think

Re: [Vo]:It's Time We Talked About the Box-Orbs..

2022-07-08 Thread Robin
In reply to Frank Grimer's message of Fri, 8 Jul 2022 10:21:32 +0100: Hi Frank, >> >> why do like charges repel, and unlike charges attract? > > >Because one is a source, the other is a sink at the bottom of a deep ocean. That's certainly one possibility. However it raises even more questions.

Re: [Vo]:Test

2022-07-08 Thread Frank Grimer
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brachistochrone_curve That's rightBut to less "with it " people in some forums it seems a terrible enigma. :-) The trouble with the maths is that it kills all vestige of the real world and prevents one seeing the demo in a different light. For example an analogue

Re: [Vo]:Test

2022-07-08 Thread Jones Beene
This similar vid is even a bit more "fake" in terms of expectation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvlmdPLMQM4 The more general phenomenon seems to be called the Brachistochrome Problem https://mathworld.wolfram.com/Brac Jones Frank Grimer wrote:

Re: [Vo]:It's Time We Talked About the Box-Orbs..

2022-07-08 Thread Frank Grimer
> > why do like charges repel, and unlike charges attract? Because one is a source, the other is a sink at the bottom of a deep ocean. Unlike charges have a Bernoulli flow between them. One is a source - the other is a sink This leads to their apparent attraction. In reality they are being

Re: [Vo]:Test

2022-07-08 Thread Frank Grimer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlSv_IlXmBg Two cars. Green low road car arrives first. Real or Fake. Please explain your choice. On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 at 07:55, Frank Grimer <88.fr...@gmail.com> wrote: > >

[Vo]:Test

2022-07-08 Thread Frank Grimer

Re: [Vo]:It's Time We Talked About the Box-Orbs..

2022-07-08 Thread Robin
In reply to Vibrator !'s message of Sat, 2 Jul 2022 01:41:55 +0100: Hi, >> Every moving thing on the planet does the same thing. However the net effect >> is >> zero.. > >Reciprocity is obviously broken for effectively-reactionless >accelerations however. >Let me try restate the conundrum more

Re: [Vo]:It's Time We Talked About the Box-Orbs..

2022-07-08 Thread Robin
In reply to Vibrator !'s message of Mon, 4 Jul 2022 11:12:33 +0100: Hi, [snip] > >..if i may insist however, this thing below is not a fire lantern: >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiowRwpwVAQ=6s Indeed, but it may be a box-kite with an essentially invisible nylon tether. They come in a

Re: [Vo]:Test of heading

2022-07-07 Thread Jones Beene
No text Frank Grimer wrote: Test of text

[Vo]:Test of heading

2022-07-07 Thread Frank Grimer
Test of text

Re: [Vo]:It's Time We Talked About the Box-Orbs..

2022-07-04 Thread Frank Grimer
1747 words - in the middle of the night. One can't help but applaud your enthusiasm, Vibrator. On Tue, 5 Jul 2022 at 01:04, Vibrator ! wrote: > I didn't put any on tick tok. > > I didn't 'put' any anywhere. > > Again, every day for the last few weeks i've come home from work and > checked

Re: [Vo]:It's Time We Talked About the Box-Orbs..

2022-07-04 Thread Vibrator !
I didn't put any on tick tok. I didn't 'put' any anywhere. Again, every day for the last few weeks i've come home from work and checked YouTube for the last 24 hrs' UAP uploads. I skip the dross, and categorise the rest. So, 'this one goes under this header, this one belongs on that list, this

Re: [Vo]:It's Time We Talked About the Box-Orbs..

2022-07-04 Thread Frank Grimer
I did look at some, not all, of the ones you put on tick tock. As for this one - blue skies - flashing like a semaphore - ergo - a firelantern with reflecting panels tumbling around in the wind. Not rocket science is it. On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 at 11:13, Vibrator ! wrote: > > If you want to

Re: [Vo]:It's Time We Talked About the Box-Orbs..

2022-07-04 Thread Vibrator !
> If you want to believe in little green men, be my guest. ..so you haven't looked at any of the evidence? Just wanted to say hello eh.. Well on the off-chance you ever get bored, or really want answers to these big questions, maybe take a look in your own time.. I don't see anyone else making

Re: [Vo]:It's Time We Talked About the Box-Orbs..

2022-07-02 Thread Frank Grimer
If you want to believe in little green men, be my guest. But don't look up to the sky while riding that motorbike. You might finish up like the astronomer in Aesop's fable. On Sun, 3 Jul 2022 at 03:36, Vibrator ! wrote: > Latest additions under "indistinct boxes / orbs / others" include this >

Re: [Vo]:It's Time We Talked About the Box-Orbs..

2022-07-02 Thread Vibrator !
Latest additions under "indistinct boxes / orbs / others" include this gem, uploaded just now: watch?v=QJkMBZq41Yo ..so, these are unambiguously your standard flying orbs; definitely not drones, yet under intelligent control, and certainly not floating passively like Chinese lanterns. They

Re: [Vo]:It's Time We Talked About the Box-Orbs..

2022-07-02 Thread Vibrator !
> Chinese fire lanterns. Which explains why they are seen all around the > world. It wouldn't surprise me if you even have a small Chinese community > in W3. Always appreciate your thoughts, but these things defy such easy dismissal. I've specifically avoided listing most orange-orb sightings

Re: [Vo]:It's Time We Talked About the Box-Orbs..

2022-07-02 Thread Frank Grimer
Chinese fire lanterns. Which explains why they are seen all around the world. It wouldn't surprise me if you even have a small Chinese community in W3. On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 at 01:59, Vibrator ! wrote: > If you check the 'box-orbs' list, i now have at least two that clearly > show tethered pairs:

Re: [Vo]:It's Time We Talked About the Box-Orbs..

2022-07-01 Thread Vibrator !
If you check the 'box-orbs' list, i now have at least two that clearly show tethered pairs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZubVcEHtBlw https://www.tiktok.com/@draw_my_town/video/7104013293471304965?lang=en Same flight config too.. as if the lower one were perhaps siphoning some fluid from the

Re: [Vo]:It's Time We Talked About the Box-Orbs..

2022-07-01 Thread Vibrator !
> Every moving thing on the planet does the same thing. However the net effect > is > zero.. Reciprocity is obviously broken for effectively-reactionless accelerations however. Let me try restate the conundrum more clearly: • gravity's a mutual attraction between masses / inertias as observed

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-07-01 Thread Frank Grimer
I'm not sure how to start a new thread in Vortex-l but since this most concerns you Jed I'm posting to you in this thread. In your book on Mizuno (which I seem to have mislaid - probably lent it to someone who didn't return it) you describe at experiment with specimen of finely divided metal

[Vo]:ICCF24 program revised

2022-06-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
The program has been revised. It is gigantic! This is probably the biggest conference since ICCF3. https://www.iccf24.org/program

Re: [Vo]:It's Time We Talked About the Box-Orbs..

2022-06-30 Thread Robin
In reply to Vibrator !'s message of Thu, 30 Jun 2022 10:10:08 +0100: Hi, [snip] >These things potentially have us on a leash.. basic physics tells us that >what superficially _looks_ like 'anti-gravity' is, in practice, more akin >to a tug applying a course-correction via a tractor-beam. [snip]

[Vo]:It's Time We Talked About the Box-Orbs..

2022-06-30 Thread Vibrator !
Turning the subject 45° on an axis for a moment, a large hovering diamond was filmed by multiple witnesses in Columbia the other day, links added to the list. Could it be the same hovering diamond-shaped craft from Nick Pope's infamous office poster of a similar sighting in Scotland?

Re: [Vo]:It's Time We Talked About the Box-Orbs..

2022-06-28 Thread Vibrator !
> Obviously no one has heard of them, because you just invented the name. I first saw that term in reference to the box-shaped object that flew uncomfortably close between two military jets travelling in the opposite direction - this particular incident often given as an example of why the

Re: [Vo]:It's Time We Talked About the Box-Orbs..

2022-06-27 Thread Robin
In reply to Vibrator !'s message of Mon, 27 Jun 2022 22:48:03 +0100: Hi, [snip] >No one else seems to be talking about them, or even noticing the >predominance of this particular UAP. You've got your basic saucers, your >cigars and various 'foo-fighter' and 'ghost rockets' etc.. but who ever

[Vo]:It's Time We Talked About the Box-Orbs..

2022-06-27 Thread Vibrator !
I've been trying to bite my tongue for fear of lowering the tone, but the sheer weight of corroborating evidence for this phenomena must by now be worthy of Vorts' attention. Some weeks back, YT began showing me suggestions for UAP videos. I'd watched the David Fravor interviews after the NYT

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-22 Thread ROGER ANDERTON
ink the number was ) 4 hull compartments to be breached for Titanic to sink, and that was deemed impossible that 4 would be breached- hence unsinkable. -- Original Message -- From: "Jed Rothwell" To: "Vortex" Sent: Thursday, 23 Jun, 22 At 01:10 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Bearden dea

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-22 Thread Jed Rothwell
ROGER ANDERTON wrote: > I take it that the photo is not the best so doesn't show everything; and > heat was so bad at one time that it spread a long way. > You mean the heat magically jumped 70 feet, and then spread past two bunkers which were not on fire. That is physically impossible. > Well

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-22 Thread ROGER ANDERTON
the outside of the ship. I have worked down the docks, one of the big cranes fell over - there was a big coverup after that - all the cranes had not followed safety regulations. -- Original Message -- From: "Jed Rothwell" To: "Vortex" Sent: Wednesday, 22 Jun, 22 At 23

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-22 Thread Jed Rothwell
ROGER ANDERTON wrote: > So, you are not sure and only "think" and could be wrong. > Well, pretty sure. I can always be wrong. (I suggest you practice saying that to yourself: 'I can always be wrong.') I would have thought the heat from the coalfire would have gone along the > hull and be even

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-22 Thread ROGER ANDERTON
typo correction -- Original Message -- From: "ROGER ANDERTON" To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, 22 Jun, 22 At 22:47 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone Jed: So I think it was an artifact of the photo. So, you are not sure and only "think"

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-22 Thread ROGER ANDERTON
From: "Jed Rothwell" To: "Vortex" Sent: Wednesday, 22 Jun, 22 At 22:26 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone ROGER ANDERTON <mailto:r.j.ander...@btinternet.com> > wrote: It wasn't as massive a fire as you are trying to make out. I have read about shipbo

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-22 Thread Jed Rothwell
ROGER ANDERTON wrote: > It wasn't as massive a fire as you are trying to make out. > I have read about shipboard fires, shipwrecks, storms and other disasters. I have heard about such things directly from people who sailed on ships made before WWI. Any fire large enough to leave a 30' black

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-22 Thread ROGER ANDERTON
typo correction -- Original Message -- From: "ROGER ANDERTON" To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, 22 Jun, 22 At 19:00 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone Jed I found reference to the documentary - https://www.buzzfeed.com/kristinharris/titanic-the-ne

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-22 Thread ROGER ANDERTON
happened, just bad engineering. Silkwodd pointed out bad engineering at Atomic plant and that made her a martyr etc -- Original Message -- From: "Jed Rothwell" To: "Vortex" Sent: Wednesday, 22 Jun, 22 At 18:17 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-22 Thread Jed Rothwell
ROGER ANDERTON wrote: > Jed:No one in his right mind would set to sea with a massive coal bunker > fire. > > > Exactly hence conspiracy > Nope. You are confused. There was no massive fire. If there had been, the whole ship would have been filled with smoke, as I said. Also carbon monoxide,

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-22 Thread ROGER ANDERTON
of the best in the world. And they didn't think about building a bigger sea wall? etc -- Original Message -- From: "Jed Rothwell" To: "Vortex" Sent: Wednesday, 22 Jun, 22 At 16:46 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone ROGER ANDERTON <mailto:r.j.

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-22 Thread ROGER ANDERTON
red. https://www.stigmergicsystems.com/stig_v1/stigrefs/article1.html?858732 given its "vagueness " -> just can end up as another form of conspiracy -- Original Message -- From: "Jed Rothwell" To: "Vortex" Sent: Wednesday, 22 Jun, 22 At 16:50 Subject: Re

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-22 Thread ROGER ANDERTON
-- From: "ROGER ANDERTON" To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, 22 Jun, 22 At 17:01 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone Jed "Definition 2 only applies to inanimate objects, as an analogy." Doesn't say that -- no use of "only" there! So, you mi

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-22 Thread ROGER ANDERTON
Jed "Definition 2 only applies to inanimate objects, as an analogy." Doesn't say that -- no use of "only" there! So, you misunderstand definitions -- Original Message -- From: "Jed Rothwell" To: "Vortex" Sent: Wednesday, 22 Jun, 22

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-22 Thread Jed Rothwell
ROGER ANDERTON wrote: definition 2 > > to act in harmony toward a common end > > https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/conspire > > > --> nothing about a conspiracy has to be unlawful or illegal > > > -> not your definition > You misunderstand. Definition 2 only applies to inanimate

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-22 Thread Jed Rothwell
ROGER ANDERTON wrote: *Stigmergy* (/ˈstɪɡmərdʒi/ > *STIG-mər-jee* > ) is a > mechanism of indirect coordination > , through the

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-22 Thread Jed Rothwell
ROGER ANDERTON wrote: > Jed: There were many coal bunker fires in the ships of that era. They > never sank a ship as far as I know. > > > So, as far as you know. > > > As far as you know > Which is probably farther than you know. As I said, I happen to know about ships of that era, mainly from

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-22 Thread ROGER ANDERTON
t; To: "Vortex" Sent: Wednesday, 22 Jun, 22 At 16:36 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone ROGER ANDERTON <mailto:r.j.ander...@btinternet.com> > wrote: There are open conspiracies - That is a contradiction of terms. The dictionary definition of "c

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-22 Thread Jed Rothwell
ROGER ANDERTON wrote: > There are open conspiracies - > That is a contradiction of terms. The dictionary definition of "conspiracy" is: "a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful." Dictionary.com "1 · a secret agreement to do something harmful or unlawful ; 2 · the act of

RE: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-22 Thread ROGER ANDERTON
iracy as far as I am concerned. A chain reaction of unfortunate events - domino effect - with someone pushing over the first domino that causes all the other dominos to fall. -- Original Message -- From: "Chris Zell" To: "vortex-l@eskimo.com" Sent: Wednesday,

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-22 Thread ROGER ANDERTON
incompetent people at each stage of the process. -- Original Message -- From: "Jed Rothwell" To: "Vortex" Sent: Wednesday, 22 Jun, 22 At 15:16 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone ROGER ANDERTON <mailto:r.j.ander...@btinternet.com> > wr

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-22 Thread Esa Ruoho
; From: "Jed Rothwell" > To: "Vortex" > Sent: Wednesday, 22 Jun, 22 At 14:48 > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone > > ROGER ANDERTON wrote: > >> This is getting too diverted. What you were saying sounded like a >> conspira

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-22 Thread ROGER ANDERTON
://www.forcingchange.org/open-conspiracy/ -- Original Message -- From: "Jed Rothwell" To: "Vortex" Sent: Wednesday, 22 Jun, 22 At 14:48 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone ROGER ANDERTON <mailto:r.j.ander...@btinternet.com> > wrote: This

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-22 Thread Jed Rothwell
Chris Zell wrote: > Many of these things are technically not conspiracies, just stigmergy. That is a great word! I have never heard it. You learn something new every day. Here is another definition: https://wiki.p2pfoundation.net/Stigmergy Yes, the opposition to cold fusion was stigmergy.

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-22 Thread Jed Rothwell
ROGER ANDERTON wrote: > Titanic sounds to me a conspiracy fact - it left port with a fire in its > coal bunker that could not be put out - that sounds to me that didn't want > the Titanic to survive the journey. > There were many coal bunker fires in the ships of that era. They never sank a ship

RE: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-22 Thread Chris Zell
and the sanctions Cold War. All too often science goes the same way. Termites denying anomalies such as Cold Fusion obediently. From: Jed Rothwell Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2022 9:49 AM To: Vortex Subject: Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone ROGER ANDERTON mailto:r.j.ander

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-22 Thread Jed Rothwell
ROGER ANDERTON wrote: > This is getting too diverted. What you were saying sounded like a > conspiracy theory. > Perhaps it did sound like that, but it was not. Because -- 1. A conspiracy is organized and surreptitious. The opposition to cold fusion was unorganized and very much in the open.

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-22 Thread ROGER ANDERTON
, but when it comes down to what they actually do - its usually the opposite. -- Original Message -- From: "Jed Rothwell" To: "Vortex" Sent: Wednesday, 22 Jun, 22 At 01:59 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone ROGER ANDERTON <mailto:r.j.ander...@

Re: [Vo]:Celani verifies Cincinnati Group transmutation

2022-06-21 Thread Axil Axil
The demonstration and study of transmutation has come a long way over the decades. In this 3D micrograph, the false colour picture on the right shows the distribution of the various elements generated from copper produced in the VEGA experiment. https://youtu.be/JNH4Z-Ho148 On Tue, Jun 21, 2022

Re: [Vo]:Paul Brown's RNB

2022-06-21 Thread Robin
In reply to Robin's message of Wed, 22 Jun 2022 12:50:34 +1000: Hi, PS, if it goes all the way to Pb207, you get about 45 MeV in total (there are a few beta decays thrown in for good measure ;). >In reply to Jones Beene's message of Tue, 21 Jun 2022 23:44:38 + (UTC): >Hi Jones, > >AFAIK

Re: [Vo]:Paul Brown's RNB

2022-06-21 Thread Robin
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Tue, 21 Jun 2022 23:44:38 + (UTC): Hi Jones, AFAIK the only Thorium isotope found in Nature is Th232, which is both an even numbered element, and an even numbered isotope, so has no magnetic moment, hence I suspect there are no Larmor table entries for

Re: [Vo]:Paul Brown's RNB

2022-06-21 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Jun 21, 2022 at 7:44 PM Jones Beene wrote: > Too bad Paul Brown had such a ridiculous passion for hot rod racing. > At least he didn't put JATOs on his Mazda.

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-21 Thread Jed Rothwell
ROGER ANDERTON wrote: > sounded like conspiracy theory. > What sounded like a conspiracy theory? What do you refer to? As I said, not everything that sounds like a conspiracy theory, is a conspiracy theory. Not everything that sounds implausible is false. The Titanic disaster was caused by a

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-21 Thread ROGER ANDERTON
hwell" To: "Vortex" Sent: Wednesday, 22 Jun, 22 At 01:26 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone ROGER ANDERTON <mailto:r.j.ander...@btinternet.com> > wrote: Please provide proof. You don't need me to do that. There are many authoritative sources on line, at place

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-21 Thread Jed Rothwell
ROGER ANDERTON wrote: > Please provide proof. > You don't need me to do that. There are many authoritative sources on line, at places like the FBI and the Senate Committee. If you don't believe them, you will not believe anything else that I provide. The difference between a conspiracy theory

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-21 Thread ROGER ANDERTON
-- Original Message -- From: "Jed Rothwell" To: "Vortex" Sent: Wednesday, 22 Jun, 22 At 00:49 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone ROGER ANDERTON <mailto:r.j.ander...@btinternet.com> > wrote: Some of the people who spread consp

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-21 Thread Jed Rothwell
ROGER ANDERTON wrote: > Some of the people who spread conspiracy theories are themselves corrupt. >> Some work for the Russian government. . . . > > > Is that a conspiracy theory? > Nope. It is a fact. Well documented. Proven to a fair-thee-well. If it were a conspiracy theory, there would be

Re: [Vo]:Paul Brown's RNB

2022-06-21 Thread Jones Beene
Robin wrote: BTW do you have the Larmor tables for thorium in a weak field? My tables will not open. Thorium would be a better choice than U and is available online. I suspect that in a weak field the NMR resonance is going to be in the tens of MHz. Essentially this means that the

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-21 Thread ROGER ANDERTON
22 At 20:55 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-21 Thread Robin
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Tue, 21 Jun 2022 11:53:47 -0400: Hi, Looking through the list I see that the highest power density is 438 kW/l. This is for an experimental fast neutron reactor, which uses a 3 loop cooling system, sodium - sodium - water. I would have thought it would make

Re: [Vo]:Paul Brown's RNB

2022-06-21 Thread Robin
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Tue, 21 Jun 2022 14:35:12 + (UTC): Hi, [snip] If someone wants to see if this works, there is a small amount of Uranium in granite. You could try it with a granite block, to see if you detect an anomaly. The magnetic field should pass straight through

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-21 Thread Jed Rothwell
ROGER ANDERTON wrote: conspiracy theories are about pattern recognition in human behaviour, and > there are conspiracy facts - > > e.g. > Tuskegee Experiment: The Infamous Syphilis Study > There are indeed, but they are few and far between. Just because some small number of conspiracy theories

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-21 Thread ROGER ANDERTON
://www.chemeurope.com/en/encyclopedia/Myron_Evans.html -- Original Message -- From: "Jed Rothwell" To: "Vortex" Sent: Tuesday, 21 Jun, 22 At 16:37 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone ROGER ANDERTON <mailto:r.j.ander...@btinternet.com> > wrote: I th

Re: [Vo]:Celani verifies Cincinnati Group transmutation

2022-06-21 Thread Terry Blanton
> > Tom Valone's web site is loaded with FE and less fringy stuff: > https://tesla3.com/

[Vo]:Celani verifies Cincinnati Group transmutation

2022-06-21 Thread Jones Beene
Speaking of thorium (plus LENR techniques) - yet in the category of being "overlooked" Here is a 24 year old paper that seems to have slipped through the cracks. Top lab did the work - competent researchers - best of the best of Italy - what's not to like?

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-21 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: > Regarding fission reactor power density, I finally found this, by the way: > > https://aris.iaea.org/sites/core.html > > I think one of the column headings is incorrect. It says: > > Average core power density [kW/kgU] > > I think it should say: > > Average Core power density [kW/l] >

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-21 Thread Jed Rothwell
ROGER ANDERTON wrote: > I think a lot of things are going to disappear. > I doubt it. I think you are repeating groundless conspiracy theories. No one gives a damn about Beardon's theories or disputes about relativity. No one would bother to censor these things or make them disappear. It used

Re: [Vo]:Paul Brown's RNB

2022-06-21 Thread Jones Beene
Brown was not a fraud - but not shown to be correct either. He had support from experts and his detractors were often part of the "nuclear establishment" where billions were/are at stake. As for the tech - NMR is used all the time in other fields and that technology could be related to

RE: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-21 Thread ROGER ANDERTON
age -- From: "Chris Zell" To: "vortex-l@eskimo.com" Sent: Tuesday, 21 Jun, 22 At 14:23 Subject: RE: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone I swear I entered “google” on Duck Duck Go this morning and it said no results found. May be it’s the Russians. They seem to be the go t

RE: [Vo]:Paul Brown's RNB

2022-06-21 Thread Chris Zell
: Monday, June 20, 2022 4:56 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Paul Brown's RNB Truth is stranger than fiction, as they say ... https://www.autoweek.com/news/a2114036/strange-life-and-stranger-death-paul-brown-case-another-smart-guy-doing-dumb-thing/<https://na

RE: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-21 Thread Chris Zell
I swear I entered "google" on Duck Duck Go this morning and it said no results found. May be it's the Russians. They seem to be the go to for blame these days. From: Terry Blanton Sent: Monday, June 20, 2022 7:15 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and chenier

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-20 Thread Terry Blanton
Is Google dying? https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/06/google-search-algorithm-internet/661325/

Re: [Vo]:Paul Brown's RNB

2022-06-20 Thread Terry Blanton
Robert Park said positive things about Brown! On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 4:56 PM Jones Beene wrote: > Truth is stranger than fiction, as they say ... > > > https://www.autoweek.com/news/a2114036/strange-life-and-stranger-death-paul-brown-case-another-smart-guy-doing-dumb-thing/ > > > > Terry

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-20 Thread ROGER ANDERTON
posing views, potentially resulting in an unintended exercise in confirmation bias <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias> . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echo_chamber_%28media%29 -- Original Message -- From: "H LV" To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, 20 Jun,

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-20 Thread H LV
Perhaps the designers are consciously or unconsciously incorporating an agenda into the search algorithm. Instead of finding those things you want to know, the algorithm steers you towards things that the designers think you need to know? harry On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 3:25 PM Jed Rothwell

Re: [Vo]:Paul Brown's RNB

2022-06-20 Thread Jones Beene
Truth is stranger than fiction, as they say ... https://www.autoweek.com/news/a2114036/strange-life-and-stranger-death-paul-brown-case-another-smart-guy-doing-dumb-thing/ Terry Blanton wrote: Paul envisioned his Nucell Resonant Nuclear Battery helping solve climate change in 1989.

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-20 Thread Jed Rothwell
Chris Zell wrote: > Google often does this in ignoring search terms, as happened to me > recently in looking for a chain saw part. Yes. I have a strange feeling Google has this problem more than it used to. I wonder if they need to tweak their algorithm? The other day I was looking for

[Vo]:Paul Brown's RNB

2022-06-20 Thread Terry Blanton
Paul envisioned his Nucell Resonant Nuclear Battery helping solve climate change in 1989. http://www.rexresearch.com/nucell/nucell.htm

RE: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-20 Thread Chris Zell
. From: Nicholas Palmer Sent: Friday, June 17, 2022 9:07 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone You suggested that the internet had been scrubbed of links, thus insinuating a conspiracy to hide the truth. That google search shows that there are still many

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-18 Thread Robin
In reply to Jim Dickenson's message of Sun, 19 Jun 2022 02:54:54 +0900: Hi, [snip] >Hi, > >This sounds like the most logical explanation or there were explicit >instructions in his will to discontinue the web sites. Who knows? > >Interestingly, a Bearden DVD was sent to Dutchsinse and he posted

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-18 Thread Jim Dickenson
Hi, This sounds like the most logical explanation or there were explicit instructions in his will to discontinue the web sites. Who knows? Interestingly, a Bearden DVD was sent to Dutchsinse and he posted it to YouTube on 29 April 2022. Here's the link:

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-18 Thread ROGER ANDERTON
Internet censorship does occur, dealt with by wiki at - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship if conspiracy then openly admitted conspiracy -- Original Message -- From: "Nicholas Palmer" To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, 18 Jun, 22 At 02:06 Subject: Re: [V

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-18 Thread Jed Rothwell
The ISP, Worldnic.com, appears to be offline. It can't be reached. That could be the problem. Then again, net sleuths say that worldnic.com changed its name to netsol.com, and it may now be part of networksolutions.com, which is still active. https://www.networksolutions.com/ That is who hosts

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-18 Thread Jed Rothwell
Whois says the Domain is still active. It is paid for through 2024. Probably, the ISP was not paid. As I said, the ISP will probably not delete the content from its servers for a while. If someone contacts them, they may help with reviving the site or transferring the data. Here is the Whois

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-17 Thread Nicholas Palmer
dered in regard to a potential radioactive battery patent. > > > > *From:* Nicholas Palmer > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 15, 2022 9:29 PM > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone > > > > Chris Zell - what part of this in Jed's rep

[Vo]:WOW, alex frolov is still alive!

2022-06-17 Thread William Beaty
I thought Frolov was long gone (may have confused him with S. Marinov.) Like Naudin, he had MEG test reports, plus LOTS of other Russian crackpot stuff which we in the USA have never encountered ...but it was all paper publications. Testing of time machines. Poliakov antigravity. Kilowatt

RE: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-17 Thread Chris Zell
ks are dead. Google frequently leads searches far away from what was intended. Since the discussion is about Bearden - he thought Arie De Geus was murdered in regard to a potential radioactive battery patent. From: Nicholas Palmer Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2022 9:29 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.

Re: [Vo]:Reversing global warming and removing carbon from the atmosphere with cold fusion

2022-06-16 Thread Jed Rothwell
Andrew Meulenberg wrote: > On the other hand, with uncontrolled population growth . . . > Population growth is not uncontrolled. On the contrary, it has largely stopped. What I mean is, the only age cohort that is growing is people in the Third World over age 40. Their numbers are increasing

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