Re: [Vo]:Can the Hydrino explain excess heat in NiH and PdD systems?

2014-08-05 Thread Axil Axil
Cools is a relative term. The temperature of a spark can reach about 20,000C. For example, Palladium vaporizes above 3000C so nanoparticle of palladium will start to form just under that very high temperature. Water will always produce nanoparticles when exposed to a spark. On Tue, Aug 5, 2014

Re: [Vo]:Can the Hydrino explain excess heat in NiH and PdD systems?

2014-08-05 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Axil, the V geometry of cracks may even be a better embodiment for a thrust capacitor in terms of bias to a specific axis. Previous experiments by Italian researchers to “stack” Casimir cavities have failed but I don’t think the orientation of the cavities was maintained such that stacking

Re: [Vo]:Can the Hydrino explain excess heat in NiH and PdD systems?

2014-08-05 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Okay, then that introduces an interesting concept that I have not seen in the literature. I keep seeing it postulated here on Vortex that there's a relativity-based theory that explains it. I do not understand the theory so I haven't spent the cycles to click through and figure it out. But here

Re: [Vo]:Can the Hydrino explain excess heat in NiH and PdD systems?

2014-08-05 Thread Kevin O'Malley
A google search for relative Luttinger Liquid produces only 1 hit, a PhD thesis worth looking at, perhaps applicable to LENR. Coulomb Drag in Vertically-Integrated One-Dimensional Quantum Wires http://gervaislab.mcgill.ca/Laroche_PhD_Thesis.pdf On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 8:34 PM, Kevin O'Malley

Re: [Vo]:Can the Hydrino explain excess heat in NiH and PdD systems?

2014-08-05 Thread Kevin O'Malley
This is actually a significant paper. The author discovered NEGATIVE Coulomb drag resistance. Discovery of negative one-dimensional Coulomb drag occurring at high electronic density in the wires Results concerning the negative Coulomb drag were published as original work with DL appearing as

Re: [Vo]:Can the Hydrino explain excess heat in NiH and PdD systems?

2014-08-05 Thread Kevin O'Malley
That's news to me. Can you please provide some documentation? This would be an experiment that normal people could perform. On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 8:00 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: From: Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson No doubt, you say. I

Re: [Vo]:Can the Hydrino explain excess heat in NiH and PdD systems?

2014-08-05 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Radiation will not be seen in the Mills' arc experiment because an arc that produces nanoparticles will always result in the formation of a SPP BEC that will neutralize the nuclear reactions that the spark may produce. ***Excellent point. So the significance of Ed Storms's cracks is that they

Re: [Vo]:Can the Hydrino explain excess heat in NiH and PdD systems?

2014-08-04 Thread Peter Gluck
Thank you guys for the real stories of ethical problems in professional life/ Actually it is a great grey area between the good and evil, honest and dishonest, the immediately useful -harming on long term and its opposite. I will publish just now an essay about such problems, protection against

Re: [Vo]:Can the Hydrino explain excess heat in NiH and PdD systems?

2014-08-04 Thread Kevin O'Malley
On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/LochakGlowenergyn.pdf Here is what cavitation is producing. These are what Ken Shoulders also produced in spark discharge. Sparks in water always produce cavitation. Only cavitation in

Re: [Vo]:Can the Hydrino explain excess heat in NiH and PdD systems?

2014-08-04 Thread Axil Axil
A spark produces a plasma, whenever a plasma cools as it must eventually do, at a minimum, it produces nanoparticles out of the vaporized electrode material that carried the spark.. On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 12:24 AM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 2:47 PM,

Re: [Vo]:Can the Hydrino explain excess heat in NiH and PdD systems?

2014-08-04 Thread Kevin O'Malley
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 9:55 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: A spark produces a plasma, whenever a plasma cools as it must eventually do, at a minimum, it produces nanoparticles out of the vaporized electrode material that carried the spark.. ***When a plasma COOLs That is utterly

Re: [Vo]:Can the Hydrino explain excess heat in NiH and PdD systems?

2014-08-03 Thread Peter Gluck
Mills himself says NO, hydrinos have nothing to do with LENR. Peter On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 12:23 AM, Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com wrote: Folks, I am asking this question because I truly do not know the answer and clearly, I am not qualified to even begin to answer it. Maybe those who

RE: [Vo]:Can the Hydrino explain excess heat in NiH and PdD systems?

2014-08-03 Thread Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Sunday Sermon Many years ago I think it had been speculated that very early in BLP's inception, Dr. Mills made both a conscious and strategic decision to distance the body of his work from the CF/LENR field as quickly as possible. After watching the public skewering of Pons and Fleischmann

Re: [Vo]:Can the Hydrino explain excess heat in NiH and PdD systems?

2014-08-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: Mills himself says NO, hydrinos have nothing to do with LENR. It makes no difference what he says. Whether it does or it does not have a connection to LENR is a fact of nature, to be decided by experiment. Some researchers have the odd notion that what

RE: [Vo]:Can the Hydrino explain excess heat in NiH and PdD systems?

2014-08-03 Thread Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Jed sez: Some researchers have the odd notion that what they discover belongs to them in a sense, and they have the privilege of deciding what is it is and how it works theoretically. Being afflicted with a God Complex is an equal opportunity employer. Doesn't seem to matter whether

Re: [Vo]:Can the Hydrino explain excess heat in NiH and PdD systems?

2014-08-03 Thread Peter Gluck
it is only one strange thing re the possible connection- it seems Randy is very silent about deuterinos and tritinos. these could tell about some link with classic LENR. In 2011 he rejected the work of Rossi and of Piantelli too. Not possible he said. Peter On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 7:40 PM, Jed

Re: [Vo]:Can the Hydrino explain excess heat in NiH and PdD systems?

2014-08-03 Thread Stefan Israelsson Tampe
Is not the probable energy density of the TIP1 report, well above those numbers you get from the first hydrino states. Either Rossi is producing very small hydrinos, or it is nuclear, heck we don't know what can happen in these low energy nuclear reactions if so, total mass to energy

Re: [Vo]:Can the Hydrino explain excess heat in NiH and PdD systems?

2014-08-03 Thread Axil Axil
This insight into the man does not speak well for this man's desire to reveal ultimate truth. It sounds like his views of the laws of nature are skewed by the needs of his ego and his business. The ascetic truth seeker is most often grounded into dust by the demons of our nature. This man seeks

RE: [Vo]:Can the Hydrino explain excess heat in NiH and PdD systems?

2014-08-03 Thread Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
I should clarify a couple of things I recently posted: ...Dr. Mills has personally opined that many observers and followers within the CF/LENR field behave as if they were a bunch of cult admirers hopelessly invested in their own deluded theoretical causes. and The Doctor has

RE: [Vo]:Can the Hydrino explain excess heat in NiH and PdD systems?

2014-08-03 Thread Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Axil, This insight into the man does not speak well for this man's desire to reveal ultimate truth. It sounds like his views of the laws of nature are skewed by the needs of his ego and his business. I tend to disagree with this assumption. What do you mean when you play the

Re: [Vo]:Can the Hydrino explain excess heat in NiH and PdD systems?

2014-08-03 Thread Axil Axil
*I see no demons in play here. I see very little dust either. What CEO when faced with the realities of a competitive environment, hasn't said the equivalent of: Accept no other false products other than our own. I think I read something like that in a book somewhere. * In real world terms

RE: [Vo]:Can the Hydrino explain excess heat in NiH and PdD systems?

2014-08-03 Thread Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
From Axil: In short order, my colleague lost his job, was banned, and was never rehired. As a real word prerogative and a practical life lessen, when staying in business and making money is more important than dispensing the truth, the pursuit of truth suffers. FWIW: Late last

Re: [Vo]:Can the Hydrino explain excess heat in NiH and PdD systems?

2014-08-03 Thread Kevin O'Malley
You seem to be implying that Dr. Mills is deliberately behaving in a dishonest way. ***I didn't pay much attention to Dr. Mills because he had a long string of failures but a brilliant career as a theoretician and an ability to attract investors. He's a shyster who's smarter than me and can pull

Re: [Vo]:Can the Hydrino explain excess heat in NiH and PdD systems?

2014-08-03 Thread Axil Axil
I find it difficult to understand a situation where a multi-million dollar company can exist and prosper for a quarter century without the development of a single commercially viable product...unless it is the seat of a technological religion that takes on the guise of a company. Such a religion

RE: [Vo]:Can the Hydrino explain excess heat in NiH and PdD systems?

2014-08-03 Thread Jones Beene
LOL. Mills is not a shyster per se, since he is a brilliant guy and has made a big impression on the theoretical end with many smart people. Mills’ problem is in taking an intuitive idea and making it work in the real world. I was a big fan for a while, but after a certain level of accumulated

RE: [Vo]:Can the Hydrino explain excess heat in NiH and PdD systems?

2014-08-03 Thread Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Jones sez: And yes, there is no doubt that - especially the seam welder – if it were tested now with a radiation monitor after a few runs, will be shown to be activated. Doubt that we will see detail that published … due of course to the NDA. No doubt, you say. I admire the

RE: [Vo]:Can the Hydrino explain excess heat in NiH and PdD systems?

2014-08-03 Thread Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Axil, You seem to be implying that CQM is essentially religion. You also seem to be implying that BLP is run by the equivalent of another L. Ron Hubbard. It seems to me that one might be able to imply that the same thing has already happened to how standard quantum mechanics seems to be

RE: [Vo]:Can the Hydrino explain excess heat in NiH and PdD systems?

2014-08-03 Thread Jones Beene
From: Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson No doubt, you say. I admire the certainty of your conviction. But then... maybe not. ;-) Transmutation is turning up in arc welders at 140 amps, so why not 10,000? I would agree that the radioactivity

Re: [Vo]:Can the Hydrino explain excess heat in NiH and PdD systems?

2014-08-03 Thread Eric Walker
On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 6:03 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: I find it difficult to understand a situation where a multi-million dollar company can exist and prosper for a quarter century without the development of a single commercially viable product... Here in California some

Re: [Vo]:Can the Hydrino explain excess heat in NiH and PdD systems?

2014-08-03 Thread Axil Axil
Radiation will not be seen in the Mills' arc experiment because an arc that produces nanoparticles will always result in the formation of a SPP BEC that will neutralize the nuclear reactions that the spark may produce. One has to work very hard to avoid BEC formation in spark discharge so that

Re: [Vo]:Can the Hydrino explain excess heat in NiH and PdD systems?

2014-08-03 Thread Axil Axil
Quantum Mechanics is not well developed in relation to the explanations that it can provide to explain all the vast array of weird things that seem to be occurring at and below the atomic level. Once LENR is taken seriously, I expect it to be a gold mine for research into quantum weirdness in

[Vo]:Can the Hydrino explain excess heat in NiH and PdD systems?

2014-08-02 Thread Jojo Iznart
Folks, I am asking this question because I truly do not know the answer and clearly, I am not qualified to even begin to answer it. Maybe those who have actually studied Mills GUTCP book can help answer this question. (Mike and Robin? up for some calculations.) This is a bounce off the

Re: [Vo]:Can the Hydrino explain excess heat in NiH and PdD systems?

2014-08-02 Thread Axil Axil
Most Pd/D systems produce heat through cavitation. On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com wrote: Folks, I am asking this question because I truly do not know the answer and clearly, I am not qualified to even begin to answer it. Maybe those who have actually

Re: [Vo]:Can the Hydrino explain excess heat in NiH and PdD systems?

2014-08-02 Thread Jojo Iznart
By cavitation, I presume you mean that the cavitation would cause Deuterium to slam to each other and fuse ala Hot fusion? If so, where are the gammas? Jojo - Original Message - From: Axil Axil To: vortex-l Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 5:26 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Can the

Re: [Vo]:Can the Hydrino explain excess heat in NiH and PdD systems?

2014-08-02 Thread Axil Axil
http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/LochakGlowenergyn.pdf Here is what cavitation is producing. These are what Ken Shoulders also produced in spark discharge. Sparks in water always produce cavitation. Only cavitation in water produces gamma because no BEC can be produced. Sparks in a gas do not

Re: [Vo]:Can the Hydrino explain excess heat in NiH and PdD systems?

2014-08-02 Thread mixent
In reply to Jojo Iznart's message of Sun, 3 Aug 2014 05:23:47 +0800: Hi, Shrinkage to H[n=1/4] yields 204 eV / atom (starting out from an H atom in the ground state). If you can find out how much energy was produced, and how much Hydrogen was consumed, you can work out for yourself whether or

Re: [Vo]:Can the Hydrino explain excess heat in NiH and PdD systems?

2014-08-02 Thread Axil Axil
It just dawned on me that cavitation produced by a pump will produce gamma, whereas cavitation produced by a spark does not produce gamma. Cavitation produced by a pump does not have the power to produce nano particles, but an arc is hot and energetic enough to produce nano particles from plasma