Re: [Vo]:Don Hotson has passed away

2014-06-19 Thread Alain Sepeda
2014-06-19 1:59 GMT+02:00 Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net: Normally we expect that the inventor understands his device, but you are aware of the problems with that view - has anything changed? It seems not at all the rule. It is a recent pseudo-evidence of academic myth that theory is

RE: [Vo]:Don Hotson has passed away

2014-06-19 Thread Jones Beene
[snip] just for laughs… consider… Two Ni-58 plus a proton equals 117 nucleons; and one Cu-63 plus one Fe-54 is the same. Kullander supposedly found that about 21% of Rossi’s starting nickel had been transmuted into 10% copper and 11% iron, and that

Re: [Vo]:Don Hotson has passed away

2014-06-19 Thread Bob Cook
Jones-- That’s better. Bob Sent from Windows Mail From: Jones Beene Sent: ‎Thursday‎, ‎June‎ ‎19‎, ‎2014 ‎6‎:‎57‎ ‎AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com [snip] just for laughs… consider… Two Ni-58 plus a proton equals 117 nucleons; and one Cu-63 plus one

Re: [Vo]:Don Hotson has passed away

2014-06-19 Thread James Bowery
, since they had 3 reactors to use in the test and apparently only actually operated one. Hopefully the report will address this issue. Bob -- From: jone...@pacbell.net To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Don Hotson has passed away Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 19:29

Re: [Vo]:Don Hotson has passed away

2014-06-19 Thread Danny Ross Lunsford
@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Don Hotson has passed away Jones-- That’s better. Bob Sent from Windows Mail From: Jones Beene Sent: ‎Thursday‎, ‎June‎ ‎19‎, ‎2014 ‎6‎:‎57‎ ‎AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com     [snip] just for laughs… consider

RE: [Vo]:Don Hotson has passed away

2014-06-19 Thread Jones Beene
One more detail to add into the mix of the Kullander finding (which has always looked suspicious before now). The very first patent for Mu metal was GB279549. Smith, et al July 27, 1926. “A nickel-copper-iron alloy of high magnetic permeability” Mu metals today can still be found which are

RE: [Vo]:Don Hotson has passed away

2014-06-19 Thread Jones Beene
(sanity check) It goes without saying that the most likely implication of finding Ni-Cu-Fe is that it was intended to be there for reasons related to the properties of any mu metal, and that it was not formed from transmutation. However, mu metal as an intended reactant may relate to excess

Re: [Vo]:Don Hotson has passed away

2014-06-19 Thread Bob Cook
From: jone...@pacbell.net To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Don Hotson has passed away Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 19:29:11 -0700 From: Bob Cook That Wiki “report” sounds fishy to me. I sounds like hearsay. The actual observers of the test in 2011 say it worked. They did not say

Re: [Vo]:Don Hotson has passed away

2014-06-18 Thread Terry Blanton
Wow. Mark and Jones posts are both time stamped at 11:51 pm. Great minds . . . Here is the compilation of Hotson's three signature papers: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8mt4mJOTGvBNEg4T25LS0FQM3c/edit?usp=sharing And a fourth on harmonics:

Re: [Vo]:Don Hotson has passed away

2014-06-18 Thread Steve High
Here is a sure indication of his value, to physicists with open minds: decades of asking obvious but inconvenient questions (where does spin energy come from?) providing testable answers with theories that predicted observations that have subsequently been made, but remain unexplained to the

Re: [Vo]:Don Hotson has passed away

2014-06-18 Thread Terry Blanton
A rare video of Hotson from December 10, 2009 Friendly Favors/Ions presentation. Don explains what is a Bose/Einstein Condensate: http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/2899121

RE: [Vo]:Don Hotson has passed away

2014-06-18 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
From: Steve High [mailto:diamondweb...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 5:52 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Don Hotson has passed away Here is a sure indication of his value, to physicists with open minds: decades of asking obvious but inconvenient questions (where

RE: [Vo]:Don Hotson has passed away

2014-06-18 Thread Jones Beene
From: Steve High Here is a sure indication of his value, to physicists with open minds: decades of asking obvious but inconvenient questions (where does spin energy come from? [snip] A detail that stands out in Zebuhr’s writeup, relative to Rossi (and to other

RE: [Vo]:Don Hotson has passed away... to spin or not to spin.

2014-06-18 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
accurate picture of what subatomic particles really are. -mark _ From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 6:44 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Don Hotson has passed away From: Steve High

Re: [Vo]:Don Hotson has passed away... to spin or not to spin.

2014-06-18 Thread ChemE Stewart
techniques have begun to reveal a more accurate picture of what subatomic particles really are. -mark _ From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 6:44 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Don Hotson

Re: [Vo]:Don Hotson has passed away... to spin or not to spin.

2014-06-18 Thread Bob Cook
really are. -mark _ From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 6:44 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Don Hotson has passed away From: Steve High Here is a sure indication

Re: [Vo]:Don Hotson has passed away... to spin or not to spin.

2014-06-18 Thread Axil Axil
of what subatomic particles really are. -mark _ From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 6:44 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Don Hotson has passed away From: Steve High

Re: [Vo]:Don Hotson has passed away

2014-06-18 Thread Bob Cook
Jones-- I am not so sure that Rossi is completely wrong. If the first step is to create heavy electrons that facilitate the reaction of a proton with a Ni nucleus, Rossi may be correct. Bob Sent from Windows Mail From: Jones Beene Sent: ‎Wednesday‎, ‎June‎ ‎18‎, ‎2014 ‎5‎:‎44‎

Re: [Vo]:Don Hotson has passed away

2014-06-18 Thread Bob Cook
5:52 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Don Hotson has passed away Here is a sure indication of his value, to physicists with open minds: decades of asking obvious but inconvenient questions (where does spin energy come from?) providing testable answers with theories that predicted

Re: [Vo]:Don Hotson has passed away

2014-06-18 Thread Axil Axil
The transmutation of nickel is a minor reaction which is far surpassed by the transmutation of hydrogen into light elements such as lithium, boron, and beryllium. On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote: Jones-- I am not so sure that Rossi is completely

Re: [Vo]:Don Hotson has passed away

2014-06-18 Thread Andy Findlay
Hi Terry, Thanks for the two links to Hotson's papers, but I'm having trouble with the second link. I get two pages - the first of which is the tail end of an unrelated article and the second page is the beginning of Hotson's harmonic paper. Can you provide a link which covers the whole of

Re: [Vo]:Don Hotson has passed away

2014-06-18 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 6:10 PM, Andy Findlay andy_find...@orange.net wrote: Hi Terry, Thanks for the two links to Hotson's papers, but I'm having trouble with the second link. I get two pages - the first of which is the tail end of an unrelated article and the second page is the beginning of

RE: [Vo]:Don Hotson has passed away

2014-06-18 Thread Jones Beene
From: Bob Cook I am not so sure that Rossi is completely wrong…. If the first step is to create heavy electrons that facilitate the reaction of a proton with a Ni nucleus, Rossi may be correct. Bob, Normally we expect that the inventor

Re: [Vo]:Don Hotson has passed away... to spin or not to spin.

2014-06-18 Thread Eric Walker
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/12/121221233120.htm The 500 phases of matter: New system successfully classifies symmetry-protected phases This example is just one of the 500. This reminds me of the following

Re: [Vo]:Don Hotson has passed away

2014-06-18 Thread ChemE Stewart
Hey, June 21st is my birfday, I will be 50, which kinda sucks because I still act 18. I will make the claim in advance that the Earth is not really round, it is a 6-D vacuum torus with a glob of baryonic decay around it that we play in. Stewart On Wednesday, June 18, 2014, Jones Beene

Re: [Vo]:Don Hotson has passed away

2014-06-18 Thread Bob Cook
Jones--- I missed the report of the Cu analysis by the Swedes on their first test. Is that info in their first report? If there was 10% Cu in the ash, I would not expect to see an unusual isotopic composition anyway. Rossi may not have understood the science but I thin Focardi did.

RE: [Vo]:Don Hotson has passed away

2014-06-18 Thread Jones Beene
From: Bob Cook I missed the report of the Cu analysis by the Swedes on their first test. Is that info in their first report? Some of it turns up on Wiki starting at the 4th paragraph http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Catalyzer

Re: [Vo]:Don Hotson has passed away

2014-06-18 Thread Bob Cook
That Wiki “report” sounds fishy to me. I sounds like hearsay. The actual observers of the test in 2011 say it worked. They did not say anything about the ash to my knowledge. My impression all along was that Rossi did not allow a destructive exam of the first reactor. Bob Sent from

Re: [Vo]:Don Hotson has passed away

2014-06-18 Thread Eric Walker
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 7:11 PM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote: That Wiki “report” sounds fishy to me. I sounds like hearsay. I agree. One link in the Wikipedia article that talked about isotopes was to Ethan Seigel's sloppy piece attempting to discredit the E-Cat, and the other was

RE: [Vo]:Don Hotson has passed away

2014-06-18 Thread Jones Beene
From: Bob Cook That Wiki “report” sounds fishy to me. I sounds like hearsay. The actual observers of the test in 2011 say it worked. They did not say anything about the ash to my knowledge. My impression all along was that Rossi did not allow a

Re: [Vo]:Don Hotson has passed away

2014-06-18 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 9:51 PM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, June 21st is my birfday, I will be 50, Happy solstistic birthday. June 21, 1964 was probably a long day for your mom, too!

RE: [Vo]:Don Hotson has passed away

2014-06-18 Thread Jones Beene
Ny Teknik: What results have you obtained from the analyses? Kullander: … the used powder is different in that several elements are present, mainly 10 percent copper and 11 percent iron. The isotopic analysis through ICP-MS doesn’t show any deviation from the

Re: [Vo]:Don Hotson has passed away

2014-06-18 Thread Axil Axil
The Swedes already did isotope analysis of the copper in the ash (which is definitely there at about 10%) and found the isotope ratio was completely natural, with no radioactivity and no indication of transmutation. They concluded that the copper (and iron) was there initially. They found no light

RE: [Vo]:Don Hotson has passed away

2014-06-18 Thread Jones Beene
Ny Teknik: What results have you obtained from the analyses? Kullander: … the used powder is different in that several elements are present, mainly 10 percent copper and 11 percent iron. The isotopic analysis through ICP-MS doesn’t show any

Re: [Vo]:Don Hotson has passed away

2014-06-18 Thread Axil Axil
What would happen if the vacuum that a Rydberg crystal of hydrogen was occupying turned into a soup of magically catalyzed pions? This sort of thing happens in a quark plasma. This happened just after the big bang and the QGP condenced into elements that were what we see today in the universe.

RE: [Vo]:Don Hotson has passed away

2014-06-18 Thread Bob Cook
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Don Hotson has passed away Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 19:29:11 -0700 From: Bob Cook That Wiki “report” sounds fishy to me. I sounds like hearsay. The actual observers of the test in 2011 say it worked. They did not say anything about the ash to my

[Vo]:Don Hotson has passed away

2014-06-17 Thread Jones Beene
It is a great loss to learn of the passing of Don Hotson. He had been ill for some time. He died peacefully at a family home in Dayton, Washington on June 11 according to his son. attachment: winmail.dat

Re: [Vo]:Don Hotson has passed away

2014-06-17 Thread Terry Blanton
Our loss. Thanks, Jones. On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 5:05 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: It is a great loss to learn of the passing of Don Hotson. He had been ill for some time. He died peacefully at a family home in Dayton, Washington on June 11 according to his son.

RE: [Vo]:Don Hotson has passed away

2014-06-17 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Ditto... -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 3:59 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Don Hotson has passed away Our loss. Thanks, Jones. On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 5:05 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote

Re: [Vo]:Don Hotson has passed away

2014-06-17 Thread Steve High
17, 2014 3:59 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com javascript:; Subject: Re: [Vo]:Don Hotson has passed away Our loss. Thanks, Jones. On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 5:05 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net javascript:; wrote: It is a great loss to learn of the passing of Don Hotson. He had been ill

RE: [Vo]:Don Hotson has passed away

2014-06-17 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
: Re: [Vo]:Don Hotson has passed away How about a brief eulogy for those of us who are not familiar with Don Hotson's contributions. Thanks On Tuesday, June 17, 2014, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: Ditto... -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com

RE: [Vo]:Don Hotson has passed away

2014-06-17 Thread Jones Beene
From: Steve High How about a brief eulogy for those of us who are not familiar with Don Hotson's contributions. Thanks This is a pretty good summary of his work. http://www.infinite-energy.com/iemagazine/issue86/hotson.html