Re: [Vo]:Is the new MFMP test flawed from the start?

2015-07-29 Thread AlanG
@Jones We tested the Aramco coating in our experiments at HUG in February 2015. It was moderately effective but was found to degrade over time at 900°C. See the image at https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxxJkjesxe4kUUJubGlNaEZ1VVU You can also see in that image the effect of long-term

RE: [Vo]:Is the new MFMP test flawed from the start?

2015-07-29 Thread Jones Beene
AlanG, Thanks for the complete explanation. I guess the most obvious follow-on is that since the Williamson two-frequency pyrometer, recommended to Bob Greenyer by industry experts as the most accurate technique available (the one which has been used successfully in this older testing)- then why

Re: [Vo]:Is the new MFMP test flawed from the start?

2015-07-29 Thread AlanG
Jones, this issue has been discussed at great length, here and elsewhere. My conclusions based on my own research and Bob Higgins' excellent paper are that the emissivity of high-purity alumina at 6-12 um is reasonably constant at ~0.92 over the range of temperatures the GlowStick operates,

Re: [Vo]:Is the new MFMP test flawed from the start?

2015-07-29 Thread AlanG
@Jones According to Aremco, their spec was based only on anecdotal information. We proposed to do formal testing for them and they provided a sample for that purpose. Our testing was done with a Williamson two-frequency pyrometer, recommended to Bob Greenyer by industry experts as the most

RE: [Vo]:Is the new MFMP test flawed from the start?

2015-07-29 Thread Jones Beene
From: AlanG We tested the Aramco coating in our experiments at HUG in February 2015. It was moderately effective but was found to degrade over time at 900°C. See the image at https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxxJkjesxe4kUUJubGlNaEZ1VVU Alan, This image appears to shows a bleaching of the

Re: [Vo]:Is the new MFMP test flawed from the start?

2015-07-29 Thread Axil Axil
Have you done a spectroscopic analysis of all the radiation produced by the reactor including x-rays, extreme ultraviolet(aka black light), and RF radio frequencies? On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 1:03 PM, AlanG a...@magicsound.us wrote: @Jones We tested the Aramco coating in our experiments at HUG

Re: [Vo]:Is the new MFMP test flawed from the start?

2015-07-29 Thread AlanG
@Axil The gamma spectrum was monitored continuously during the GS3 tests, covering the range ~80 KeV to over 1 MeV, and nothing above background was seen. An animation of the 1-hour samples can be seen at: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxxJkjesxe4kT3FOcmtkUnoydkk A GC320+ geiger counter

Re: [Vo]:Is the new MFMP test flawed from the start?

2015-07-29 Thread Eric Walker
Hi, On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 4:32 PM, AlanG a...@magicsound.us wrote: Using a coating would require recalibration and testing, and would make comparison with prior test data open to question. I'm sure you've thought through this. Commenting only on the tactical merits and not on the technical

Re: [Vo]:Is the new MFMP test flawed from the start?

2015-07-28 Thread Bob Cook
. Welding is a more common joining technique, but electro-plating may give a better bond without any carbon or oxygen contamination. Bob Cook From: Jones Beene Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 3:34 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:Is the new MFMP test flawed from the start? I wasn’t aware

Re: [Vo]:Is the new MFMP test flawed from the start?

2015-07-28 Thread Bob Cook
@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:Is the new MFMP test flawed from the start? I wasn’t aware of “photon multiplication” as a potential hindrance to IR testing (in the context of thermometry) until recently, but it is a hot topic in Optics journals these days. Was it even mentioned wrt Lugano? Doubt

[Vo]:Is the new MFMP test flawed from the start?

2015-07-27 Thread Jones Beene
I wasn't aware of photon multiplication as a potential hindrance to IR testing (in the context of thermometry) until recently, but it is a hot topic in Optics journals these days. Was it even mentioned wrt Lugano? Doubt it. For instance - with quantum dots as the receptor, 7 new visible photons