Re: [Vo]:New Interview with Mats Lewan On E-Cat & Rossi

2014-05-14 Thread Alain Sepeda
About Nelson report, the answer I have is that the report is genuine, but that it is preliminary. The test done seems to be the appetizer for a real test like the one Elforsk organized for E-cat. The "main-course" never get organized, for unknown reason that may be linked to the cost of such test,

Re: [Vo]:New Interview with Mats Lewan On E-Cat & Rossi

2014-05-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
Alain Sepeda wrote: > Now we should read the only evidence that remain, the report of Nelson. > The attention Nelson put in avoiding water boiling is retrospectively > very important. > I do not think Nelson did all of these steps. His "report" was more of a checklist of suggestions. As far as

Re: [Vo]:New Interview with Mats Lewan On E-Cat & Rossi

2014-05-13 Thread Alain Sepeda
He paid the price, and the report may not be the end of the procedure, but the beginning. the only good news is that DGT admit they only have 5 clients and no money transferred. Sure that those clients (if real) will check the calorimetry twice, or run. The question is if Defkalion have nothing,

Re: [Vo]:New Interview with Mats Lewan On E-Cat & Rossi

2014-05-12 Thread David Roberson
This is certainly not the kind of news I was hoping to hear. We need some good news from the Rossi tests. How much longer must we wait? Dave -Original Message- From: Jed Rothwell To: vortex-l Sent: Mon, May 12, 2014 8:26 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:New Interview with Mats Lewan On

Re: [Vo]:New Interview with Mats Lewan On E-Cat & Rossi

2014-05-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: > If Gamberale is not operating in the role of an exclusive agent for either > party, that does not negate a joint agency… complicating matters. If his > financial interests would align with DGT in any significant way, he can be > construed as an agent. . . . > Well, his inte

RE: [Vo]:New Interview with Mats Lewan On E-Cat & Rossi

2014-05-12 Thread Jones Beene
From: Jed Rothwell . . .So he is not exactly an agent. A person working for a joint venture is not an agent [for another party] … Not exactly true, in a legal sense if the qualifier “exclusive” is not used. If Gamberale is not operating in the role of an exclusive agent for either party

Re: [Vo]:New Interview with Mats Lewan On E-Cat & Rossi

2014-05-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: > Gamberale’s statements can be easily construed as declarations against > interest, since as an agent of DGT he would be arguably better off > financially if he never made those statements. . . . > The paper says DE (Defkalion Europe) is a joint venture. "This contract prov

RE: [Vo]:New Interview with Mats Lewan On E-Cat & Rossi

2014-05-12 Thread Jones Beene
From: Jed Rothwell The paper by Luca Gamberale of Defkalion Europe (DE) described the problems in detail. It is pretty damning: http://animpossibleinvention.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/dgt-faulty-demo-140502-english.pdf In the law of the USA and most countries, the most convincing evidenc

Re: [Vo]:New Interview with Mats Lewan On E-Cat & Rossi

2014-05-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
The paper by Luca Gamberale of Defkalion Europe (DE) described the problems in detail. It is pretty damning: http://animpossibleinvention.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/dgt-faulty-demo-140502-english.pdf QUOTES: Abstract I show that the experimental protocol used by Defkalion Green Technologies (DG

RE: [Vo]:New Interview with Mats Lewan On E-Cat & Rossi

2014-05-12 Thread Jones Beene
From: Foks0904 Here is a response just posted from Mats in regards to this very question concerning DGT: http://matslew.wordpress.com/ This is extremely thoughtful on the part of Mats - and fully confirms the prior negativity towards DGT, expressed here by many - despite admitting

Re: [Vo]:New Interview with Mats Lewan On E-Cat & Rossi

2014-05-12 Thread Foks0904 .
Here is a response just posted from Mats in regards to this very question concerning DGT: http://matslew.wordpress.com/ On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 1:54 AM, Blaze Spinnaker wrote: > Nah, it's OK to change your mind on the basis of new evidence. I've done > it numerous times on this mailing list.

Re: [Vo]:New Interview with Mats Lewan On E-Cat & Rossi

2014-05-10 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
Nah, it's OK to change your mind on the basis of new evidence. I've done it numerous times on this mailing list. However - with me you have a clear record of precisely where my mind was at any one point in the nature of digital number and I explain exactly what and how much each piece of evidenc

Re: [Vo]:New Interview with Mats Lewan On E-Cat & Rossi

2014-05-09 Thread Foks0904 .
If he changed his mind again, would it matter to you for some reason? As long as an opinion is informed and based on the most up to date evidence available at the time, that's all that matters. I think the ability to change one's mind is a strength, not a weakness. Being open-minded is not the same

Re: [Vo]:New Interview with Mats Lewan On E-Cat & Rossi

2014-05-09 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
True, though it'll make you wonder what his view will be in another year or two as well. When you calculate the odds on an event you have to rely a lot on journalists because they do a lot of the investigation for you. One thing I do with a journalists is see them report something I'm familiar wi

Re: [Vo]:New Interview with Mats Lewan On E-Cat & Rossi

2014-05-09 Thread Foks0904 .
Agreed. On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 10:19 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Foks0904 . wrote: > > Well that was a while ago now, no? Things can change over close to a years >> time. Not really that surprising to me. >> > > I think you mean he has reconsidered. Sometimes a person has one > impression during

Re: [Vo]:New Interview with Mats Lewan On E-Cat & Rossi

2014-05-09 Thread Jed Rothwell
Foks0904 . wrote: Well that was a while ago now, no? Things can change over close to a years > time. Not really that surprising to me. > I think you mean he has reconsidered. Sometimes a person has one impression during an event, but it seems different in retrospect. Also, Defkalion was expected

Re: [Vo]:New Interview with Mats Lewan On E-Cat & Rossi

2014-05-09 Thread Foks0904 .
Well that was a while ago now, no? Things can change over close to a years time. Not really that surprising to me. On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 9:48 PM, Blaze Spinnaker wrote: > I was surprised by how he described his experience at the Defkalion Milan > demo. That didn't jive with his blog posts whe

Re: [Vo]:New Interview with Mats Lewan On E-Cat & Rossi

2014-05-09 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
I was surprised by how he described his experience at the Defkalion Milan demo. That didn't jive with his blog posts where he was more positive. On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 5:31 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Thanks! >

Re: [Vo]:New Interview with Mats Lewan On E-Cat & Rossi

2014-05-09 Thread Jed Rothwell
Thanks!

[Vo]:New Interview with Mats Lewan On E-Cat & Rossi

2014-05-09 Thread Foks0904 .
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