Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:New paper from Cardone

2011-03-11 Thread mixent
In reply to Roarty, Francis X's message of Thu, 10 Mar 2011 19:00:17 -0500: Hi, [snip] Subject: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:New paper from Cardone http://arxiv.org/abs/1103.1153 Neutron detectors may also be sensitive to Hydrinos through enhanced electron capture (something which I suggested on this forum

[Vo]:New paper from Cardone

2011-03-10 Thread Jones Beene
http://arxiv.org/abs/1103.1153 If you thought Rossi was the only wild-eyed Italian on the fringes of physics with an earth shattering discovery, think again. These guys even have mainstream credentials, no? Their earlier paper was roundly criticized for technique, but not disproved. This one

Re: [Vo]:New paper from Cardone

2011-03-10 Thread Harry Veeder
in neutrons. harry   From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 11:11:00 AM Subject: [Vo]:New paper from Cardone http://arxiv.org/abs/1103.1153 If you thought Rossi was the only wild-eyed Italian on the fringes of physicswith an earth shattering

Re: [Vo]:New paper from Cardone

2011-03-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
Harry Veeder wrote: Here is a slide showing of some their earlier work showing how crushing granite produces neutrons. Steve Jones (BYU) did experiments looking for neutrons while Portland cement made with heavy water set (dried). I think I recall they or someone else tried crushing it,

Re: [Vo]:New paper from Cardone

2011-03-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
By the way, Carpinteri (Cardone's colleague) was at ICCF15 and 16. Here is the abstract from ICCF-16: Neutron Emission Measurements During Loading Tests on Solid Specimens and Confirmations by EDS Analysis A.Carpinteri1, G. Lacidogna1, A. Manuello1 and O. Borla,2 1Politecnico di Torino,

RE: [Vo]:New paper from Cardone

2011-03-10 Thread Jones Beene
are still grasping at straws, but in the end, there will be new physics – so why not unburden oneself of the excess baggage? Jones From: Harry Veeder Subject: Re: [Vo]:New paper from Cardone Here is a slide showing of some their earlier work showing how crushing granite produces

Re: [Vo]:New paper from Cardone

2011-03-10 Thread Harry Veeder
Kidwell told he suspects these results might be caused from vibration when the block of marble fractured. Neutron detectors are sensitive and tend to be triggered by various artifacts such as vibrations. He recommended they try hitting the floor with a sledge hammer while the detector is

Re: [Vo]:New paper from Cardone

2011-03-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
Harry Veeder wrote: Essentially they did do that. When marble was crushed no spike in neutrons was seen. If it was just due to vibrations in the detector then crushing marble would have produced a spike in neutrons too. Marble was the control? So I should have said when the block of granite

RE: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:New paper from Cardone

2011-03-10 Thread Roarty, Francis X
the spacetime.{/snip] From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 11:11 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:New paper from Cardone http://arxiv.org/abs/1103.1153 If you thought Rossi was the only wild-eyed Italian on the fringes of physics

RE: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:New paper from Cardone

2011-03-10 Thread Roarty, Francis X
be as he were falling into a blackhole. [/snip] Fran From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 11:11 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:New paper from Cardone http://arxiv.org/abs/1103.1153 If you thought Rossi was the only wild-eyed Italian