On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 10:09 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
snip
One of many conspiracy theories floating around cyberspace these day. Sing
along y'all From Natchez to Mobile, from Minot to Manas ... My mama done
tol' me...
But to backtrack a bit - it is amazing that the
It is clear that goodfellow hypotheis assume they were killed in minutes,
just after navigate phase...
another hypotheisis to check is whether they could call.
were they in connection with any control.
it seems they just left malaysian control, and were not yet in thai control
zone...
I don't
The pilot did not trust his tilt instrument during a storm(it happened
before) and it crashed into a mountain.
2014-03-20 4:44 GMT-03:00 Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com:
It is clear that goodfellow hypotheis assume they were killed in minutes,
just after navigate phase...
another
-Original Message-
Video - well worth watching even if it is from Faux News... (no one else
would air it)
http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/19/retired-air-force-general-stand-by-theory-
malaysian-airlines-flight-could-have-landed-in-pakistan/
Retired Air Force General Thomas McInerney
as people know here, I have a tendency to follow conservative point of
view...
one hypothesis seems simple, and match the personality of the crew and
passengers, the trajectory, the end
http://www.wired.com/autopia/2014/03/mh370-electrical-fire/
usually I prefer situation where stupidity, ego
Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote:
one hypothesis seems simple, and match the personality of the crew and
passengers, the trajectory, the end
http://www.wired.com/autopia/2014/03/mh370-electrical-fire/
This author says that hypothesis has to be wrong:
I would believe a pilot before a liberal arts magazine writer. Those guys
were always out playing frisbee on the lawn at college.
Jeff Wise is a New York-based magazine writer and author of *Extreme Fear:
The Science of Your Mind in
From: Jed Rothwell
This author says that hypothesis [fire] has to be wrong:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/03/18/mh370_disappearance_chris
_goodfellow_s_theory_about_a_fire_and_langkawi.html
The latest twist on this story is that a search of the Pilot's home found a
flight
I've heard few critics by pilots ...
one is that the airport is not the nearest... anyway it is the easiest.
second is that getting at high altitude making yoyo is amateur... and
trying to extinguish fire that way is movie plot.
third is that in fire, procedure is to communicate first...
fourth is
problem occurs, especially smoke... so much for erudite
expertise.
-mark
*From:* Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 19, 2014 7:39 AM
*To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Subject:* RE: [Vo]:OT what's up with conspiracy theories these days?
*From:* Jed Rothwell
for erudite
expertise.
-mark
*From:* Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 19, 2014 7:39 AM
*To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Subject:* RE: [Vo]:OT what's up with conspiracy theories these days?
*From:* Jed Rothwell
This author says that hypothesis [fire] has
One more story of interest - relates to hidden motives
http://www.eutimes.net/2014/03/russia-puzzled-over-malaysia-airlines-capture
-by-us-navy/
[snip] The latest twist on this story is that a search of the Pilot's home
found a flight simulator, and the flight data that had been erased from
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 10:38 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Here is another story on that connection, notably that this airport has
hangars for B-52s (could hide a 777 from satellites) and was used to bomb
areas in Afghanistan:
Actually, there aren't:
http://goo.gl/LsLjBL
Lots
The USAF stooddown on Sept. 14, 2007 possibly to find the missing
nuke. Here is a discussion:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread302187/pg1
On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 10:58 AM, a.ashfield a.ashfi...@verizon.net wrote:
Jones,
Where did you get the idea one warhead went missing?
See
Wow
On Wednesday, March 19, 2014, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton
Here is another story on that connection, notably that this airport has
hangars for B-52s (could hide a 777 from satellites)...
Actually, there aren't:
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton
Here is another story on that connection, notably that this airport has
hangars for B-52s (could hide a 777 from satellites)...
Actually, there aren't:
http://goo.gl/LsLjBL
Lots of B52s sitting in the open, though.
As this Fox report says,
From: Edmund Storms
I'm really disappointed in this group, given their high intelligence and
fantastic imagination, for not suggesting the obvious explanation. The
airplane was captured by a ET mothership. This was done with the help of
the pilots because they are actually hybrids.
You
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:OT what's up with conspiracy theories these days?
From: Edmund Storms
I'm really disappointed in this group, given their high intelligence and
fantastic imagination, for not suggesting the obvious explanation. The
airplane was captured by a ET mothership
I'm really disappointed in this group, given their high intelligence and
fantastic imagination, for not suggesting the obvious explanation. The
airplane was captured by a ET mothership. This was done with the help of the
pilots because they are actually hybrids. The goal is to show the
, 2014 7:39 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:OT what's up with conspiracy theories these days?
From: Jed Rothwell
This author says that hypothesis [fire] has to be wrong:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/03/18/mh370_disappearance_chris
Storms [mailto:stor...@ix.netcom.com]
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To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Cc: Edmund Storms
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days?
On Mar 19, 2014, at 10:59 AM, Roarty, Francis X wrote:
They should be scanning
Yes but still displaced by solar orbit wrt the galaxy :_)
From: Edmund Storms [mailto:stor...@ix.netcom.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 1:06 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Cc: Edmund Storms
Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:OT what's up with conspiracy theories these
days?
On Mar 19, 2014
, the plane will reappear a
year from now when we return to the previous temporal location.
Ed Storms
From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 12:49 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:OT what's up with conspiracy theories these days
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 9:09 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Did the missing jetliner fly into an area controlled by the Taliban?
Apparently there was enough fuel ... and, well ... no better explanation
has
surfaced.
A water spout sucked it into a Keplerian orbital WIMP sinkhole.
Ockham is about to slit his throat.
Ed Storms
On Mar 19, 2014, at 11:21 AM, James Bowery wrote:
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 9:09 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Did the missing jetliner fly into an area controlled by the Taliban?
Apparently there was enough fuel ... and, well ...
Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:OT what's up with conspiracy theories these
days?
On Mar 19, 2014, at 10:59 AM, Roarty, Francis X wrote:
They should be scanning our orbital trail in case it encountered a temporal
rift and rematerialized in the same spatial coordinates displaced by hours from
Maybe it wasn't a fire, maybe it was a sudden breach of the cabin @ 35,000
ft with 500 MPH winds in their face and no oxygen...who knows
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On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
I would believe a
ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
I would believe a pilot before a liberal arts magazine writer.
I cannot judge, but it seems extremely unlikely to me that the pilot or
copilot would not contact air traffic control and declare an emergency in
the event of a fire. That only takes a moment.
ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
Maybe it wasn't a fire, maybe it was a sudden breach of the cabin @ 35,000
ft with 500 MPH winds in their face and no oxygen...who knows
Pilots always have oxygen. They have oxygen masks. These are much better
than ones that passengers get, with goggles.
Things happen fast at 500 MPH. They had just reached cruising altitude
maybe one of them was back in the head and got sucked out...
On Wednesday, March 19, 2014, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
ChemE Stewart
cheme...@gmail.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cheme...@gmail.com');
ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
Things happen fast at 500 MPH. They had just reached cruising altitude
maybe one of them was back in the head and got sucked out...
The airplane continued to fly for many hours after the event that caused
the IFF to go off and the airplane to deviate
that is a serious point.
some say that they first tried to same the plane
aviate-navigate-communicate, but some remind in case of fire the
directive is communicate first then work on the fire. som answer to that
saying the pilot was young (2000h flight)
did they have radio contact ? it seems
Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote:
some say that they first tried to same the plane
aviate-navigate-communicate, but some remind in case of fire the
directive is communicate first then work on the fire.
They had many hours to deal with the emergency, assuming it started with
the
You are assuming the pilots were alive.
If they were terrorists they have mostly left people scratching their
heads.
If it was a government they have just kidnapped/killed 220+ civilians,
which makes no sense to me.
What makes sense is that the pilot diverted to the closest large runway and
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton
IOW the stop in Diego Garcia was merely to refuel, repaint - ditch about
237 dead corpses, remove the suspicious cargo, load the Minot nuke in the
Cargo bay and continue on, as if it was now a PIA airplane, returning from a
recent overhaul.
So,
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
IOW the stop in Diego Garcia was merely to refuel, repaint - ditch about 237
dead corpses, remove the suspicious cargo, load the Minot nuke in the Cargo
bay and continue on as if it was now a PIA airplane, returning from
Ok, I was assuming they were too busy and then time ran out
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 3:56 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
You are assuming the pilots were alive.
No, I am addressing the Goodfellow hypothesis, which is that they were
ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
You are assuming the pilots were alive.
No, I am addressing the Goodfellow hypothesis, which is that they were
alive but too busy to call for help.
If they were terrorists they have mostly left people scratching their
heads.
That is a different
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
OK - I was thinking of the theme song, which cuts in here - you know the one
Crimea River ...
Groan Okay, since it was most recently in a Brit flick V for
Vendetta we need a Brit to sing it:
You have no idea what you are talking abut. Speaking as a fromer B52 pilot.
Ron
--On Wednesday, March 19, 2014 2:02 PM -0400 ChemE Stewart
cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
Things happen fast at 500 MPH. They had just reached cruising altitude
maybe one of them was back in the head and got sucked
-Original Message-
From: Ron Wormus
... Speaking as a former B52 pilot.
Hey Ron,
What is your take on this disappearing plane incident?
As I recall a few years back, you were a little concerned that the truth about
the missing Minot nuke was being told...
Jones
Jones,
With the information we have it's impossible to say.
It seems suspicious (if true) that the plane maneuvered after passing a
logical emergency landing site. The only reason the iff (transponder)
wouldn't be switched to emergency squawk is a very bad electrical fire
where the procedure
. The flight was full. :-)
Dave
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From: Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Cc: Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com
Sent: Wed, Mar 19, 2014 1:07 pm
Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:OT what's up with conspiracy theories
these days?
On Mar 19
Ed sez:
Ockham is about to slit his throat.
To paraphrase a famous saying from the movie CE3K
Occam was one of them ;-)
Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
svjart.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/newvortex/
Jones,
Where did you get the idea one warhead went missing?
See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_United_States_Air_Force_nuclear_weapons_incident
From: a.ashfield
Where did you get the idea one warhead went missing? See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_United_States_Air_Force_nuclear_weapons_in
cident
First, this is not exactly mine - or anyone else's idea since in fact, it
was initially
Background on the Minot incident:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=vaaid=7158
The conspiracy then:
http://projectcamelot.org/jack_carter.html
2014-03-18 13:54 GMT-04:00 Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com:
Background on the Minot incident:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=vaaid=7158
The missing cruise missile had a W80 warhead with a dialable yield of
5 to 150 kt. You can do a lot of damage to NYC with that yield. But
detonate it at 40,000 ft over the NE corridor and you fry every
semiconductor from DC to NYC. Suddenly only China and Russia are
Superpowers.
You would need
April surprise?
http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin98.htm
On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
The missing cruise missile had a W80 warhead with a dialable yield of
5 to 150 kt. You can do a lot of damage to NYC with that yield. But
detonate it
Did the missing jetliner fly into an area controlled by the Taliban?
Apparently there was enough fuel ... and, well ... no better explanation has
surfaced.
Over a week after the Boeing 777 vanished without a trace, The Independent
reports that Malaysian authorities are seeking diplomatic
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