[Vo]:Quality control in cold fusion.

2011-04-14 Thread Axil Axil
Quality control in cold fusion. Cold fusion has suffered from little or no quality control on the materials used in its reactions. I believe that Rossi’s big accomplishment is bringing quality control to the fabrication of his materials. After Rossi finally discovered what factors made his

Re: [Vo]:Quality control in cold fusion.

2011-04-14 Thread Peter Gluck
Perhaps you are right regarding Rossi's quality control efforts, but I want to ask you- on what basis are you speaking about NiO and not Ni? As regarding Pd based clasical LENR/CF a total characterization of say Pd cathodes is much too complex- beyond what is called usually quality controll.

Re: [Vo]:Quality control in cold fusion.

2011-04-14 Thread Axil Axil
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps you are right regarding Rossi's quality control efforts, but I want to ask you- on what basis are you speaking about NiO and not Ni? As regarding Pd based clasical LENR/CF a total characterization of say Pd

Re: [Vo]:Quality control in cold fusion.

2011-04-14 Thread Peter Gluck
Piantelii is my good friend but I do not remember that he has worked with nickel oxide. The problem with NiO is that it will be reduced with H2 and the formed water will build a great pressure in the cell. Not a problem that cannot be solved- e.g. the Cincinnati zircoanium group cell I have worked

RE: [Vo]:Quality control in cold fusion.

2011-04-14 Thread Jones Beene
Not sure if this helps or not, but many metal oxide surfaces present a Lawandy-type dielectric for accumulation of ultra dense hydrogen IRH. This has been seen on zirconia, iron-oxide and nickel-oxide. This paper by Miley is very important. www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MileyGHclusterswi.pdf

Re: [Vo]:Quality control in cold fusion.

2011-04-14 Thread Axil Axil
Piantelii stated he will hide the secret of Ni-H reaction, even from a good friend. Rossi has denied every mode of Ni catalytic activity except oxides. NiO-H has a role in many hydrogen based catalytic reactions with a highly reactive nano-particle surface. And oxide based nano-particle

Re: [Vo]:Quality control in cold fusion.

2011-04-14 Thread Peter Gluck
i would not ask the secrets of a good friend. But about his performances yes! And therefore I knew that Ni-H works, therefore Rossi's E-Cat is real and..works. Catalitically active oxides work at the interface with the real catalyst in heterogeneous catalysis. Do you say NiO is not reduced to

Re: [Vo]:Quality control in cold fusion.

2011-04-14 Thread Horace Heffner
On Apr 14, 2011, at 8:16 AM, Peter Gluck wrote: As regarding Pd based clasical LENR/CF a total characterization of say Pd cathodes is much too complex- beyond what is called usually quality controll. Terrible difficulties of describing metallurgy, morphology, granularity etc.We have to

Re: [Vo]:Quality control in cold fusion.

2011-04-14 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Horace sez: ... As to Rossi, his quality control rested with the only person with the skills to produce his nickel catalyst mix,  an old man in his 80's working away on an old machine.  My imagination sees this happening in a poorly lit room somewhere in a decaying rustic European building.  

Re: [Vo]:Quality control in cold fusion.

2011-04-14 Thread Horace Heffner
I should have noted some of my comments on metallic glasses can be found here: http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg41599.html http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg43171.html http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg29520.html

RE: [Vo]:Quality control in cold fusion.

2011-04-14 Thread Jones Beene
and Warm Regards, JB From: Horace Heffner Subject: Re: [Vo]:Quality control in cold fusion. I should have noted some of my comments on metallic glasses can be found here: http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg41599.html http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l