Re: [Vo]:Re: The vacuum is the glue that keeps the universe together.

2015-11-16 Thread mixent
In reply to Bob Cook's message of Sun, 15 Nov 2015 14:34:43 -0800: Hi Bob, As I said, I'm just guessing. I don't believe or know anything for sure. The idea that neutrons and protons are comprised of electrons and positrons is interesting, though It makes me wonder about the stability of matter.

Re: [Vo]:Re: The vacuum is the glue that keeps the universe together.

2015-11-16 Thread Axil Axil
and minus charges. >> >> Bob Cook >> >> >> >> *From:* Axil Axil >> *Sent:* Monday, November 16, 2015 9:31 AM >> *To:* vortex-l >> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Re: The vacuum is the glue that keeps the universe >> together. >> >> Has anyone ever measured an elementary particle with a charge other than >> an integer multiple of e? >> >> The Fractional Quantum Hall Effect >> > >

Re: [Vo]:Re: The vacuum is the glue that keeps the universe together.

2015-11-16 Thread Bob Higgins
Hotson's theory does go on to hypothesize on the sub-nucleonic structure of the proton and neutron based upon arrangements of epos (shrunken positronium), explains the nature of the strong force, is extended to explain gravity and electromagnetic propagation. It explains the experiment that is the

Re: [Vo]:Re: The vacuum is the glue that keeps the universe together.

2015-11-16 Thread Axil Axil
arged particles including > combinations of plus and minus charges. > > Bob Cook > > > > *From:* Axil Axil > *Sent:* Monday, November 16, 2015 9:31 AM > *To:* vortex-l > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Re: The vacuum is the glue that keeps the universe > together. > > Has any

Re: [Vo]:Re: The vacuum is the glue that keeps the universe together.

2015-11-16 Thread Bob Higgins
The Fractional Quantum Hall Effect is presently a measurement in need of an explanation. To my knowledge, no one is attributing fractional charge to an individual elementary particle in attempted explanation of the data. The theories seem to revolve around collective phenomena. On Mon, Nov 16, 20

[Vo]:Re: The vacuum is the glue that keeps the universe together.

2015-11-16 Thread Bob Cook
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 9:31 AM To: vortex-l Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: The vacuum is the glue that keeps the universe together. Has anyone ever measured an elementary particle with a charge other than an integer multiple of e? The Fractional Quantum Hall Effect

[Vo]:Re: The vacuum is the glue that keeps the universe together.

2015-11-16 Thread Bob Cook
: [Vo]:Re: The vacuum is the glue that keeps the universe together. The concept of the fractional charge quarks as constituents of matter is a completely made-up story/hypothesis. Has anyone ever measured an elementary particle with a charge other than an integer multiple of e? Hotson proposes

Re: [Vo]:Re: The vacuum is the glue that keeps the universe together.

2015-11-16 Thread Stephen Cooke
I have to say I like the idea. I have seen Hotson and Hatt mentioned here a few times but must admit I don't know much about their theories. If they say all fundemental particles are some form of electron in some kind of phase or state do they also have an explanation for neutrinos? Sounds like

Re: [Vo]:Re: The vacuum is the glue that keeps the universe together.

2015-11-16 Thread Axil Axil
Has anyone ever measured an elementary particle with a charge other than an integer multiple of e? The Fractional Quantum Hall Effect

Re: [Vo]:Re: The vacuum is the glue that keeps the universe together.

2015-11-16 Thread Eric Walker
> On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:28, Stephen Cooke wrote: > > With spin at least I suppose the current numbering system has the advantage > of easily distinguishing fermions and Bosons. If we reindexed spin to be only integer multiples, fermions would have odd spin and bosons even spin. This idea ass

Re: [Vo]:Re: The vacuum is the glue that keeps the universe together.

2015-11-16 Thread Bob Higgins
The concept of the fractional charge quarks as constituents of matter is a completely made-up story/hypothesis. Has anyone ever measured an elementary particle with a charge other than an integer multiple of e? Hotson proposes that because of this the electron IS the one and only fundamental parti

Re: [Vo]:Re: The vacuum is the glue that keeps the universe together.

2015-11-16 Thread Stephen Cooke
Interesting ideas and points about the numbering system. I wonder what would be the best most meaningful fundamental numbering system to use. With spin at least I suppose the current numbering system has the advantage of easily distinguishing fermions and Bosons. And gives insights for fermion

[Vo]:Re: The vacuum is the glue that keeps the universe together.

2015-11-15 Thread Bob Cook
: [Vo]:Re: The vacuum is the glue that keeps the universe together. On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 4:34 PM, Bob Cook wrote: The question is whether the fractional charge that is associated with some quarks actually exists as a separate entity in nature? Instead of fractional charge, it's pos

Re: [Vo]:Re: The vacuum is the glue that keeps the universe together.

2015-11-15 Thread Eric Walker
On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 4:34 PM, Bob Cook wrote: The question is whether the fractional charge that is associated with some > quarks actually exists as a separate entity in nature? > Instead of fractional charge, it's possible the "1/3," "2/3," etc., are an artifact of our numbering system. Tha

[Vo]:Re: The vacuum is the glue that keeps the universe together.

2015-11-15 Thread Bob Cook
2:46 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: The vacuum is the glue that keeps the universe together. In reply to Bob Cook's message of Thu, 12 Nov 2015 21:50:05 -0800: Hi, [snip] I would note that the total angular momentum of a system includes its electron orbital angular momentum

Re: [Vo]:Re: The vacuum is the glue that keeps the universe together.

2015-11-15 Thread mixent
In reply to Bob Cook's message of Thu, 12 Nov 2015 21:50:05 -0800: Hi, [snip] >I would note that the total angular momentum of a system includes its electron >orbital angular momentum and the intrinsic angular momentum of the electrons >and the particles that make up a the nuclei of the system.

[Vo]:Re: The vacuum is the glue that keeps the universe together.

2015-11-12 Thread Bob Cook
means that each component, the orbital and the intrinsic angular momentum can only change in increments of h/2pi. Bob Cook From: Eric Walker Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 9:06 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: The vacuum is the glue that keeps the universe together. On Thu

Re: [Vo]:Re: The vacuum is the glue that keeps the universe together.

2015-11-12 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 10:48 PM, Bob Cook wrote: Thanks for making that interesting paper available. I have always assumed > that angular momentum of particles and systems can only change in discrete > small amounts. > This reminds me (somewhat off on a tangent to the topic of this thread) --

[Vo]:Re: The vacuum is the glue that keeps the universe together.

2015-11-12 Thread Bob Cook
Bob-- Thanks for making that interesting paper available. I have always assumed that angular momentum of particles and systems can only change in discrete small amounts. The paper seems to make a point that this limit on how angular momentum can change in a system of particles causes a cert