Re: [Vo]:X-rays, IR, RF & the Rossi effect

On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Jones Beene wrote: Coincidentally, a similar procedure used by Lehigh to test the Thermacore > powder in the early nineties after a successful run. Lehigh was able to see > the signature emission line predicted by Mills at 55 eV instead of

Re: [Vo]:X-rays, IR, RF the Rossi effect

I wrote: In recent months my bet has been on transmutation from one isotope of nickel to another, but I will need to read the report to see how I continue to feel about that. I just read over the report, and I feel greatly confirmed in the hypothesis that neutron stripping of deuterium is

Re: [Vo]:X-rays, IR, RF the Rossi effect

Is sounds unbelievable because the Ni58 and annihilation radiaton. but maybe something like that may work. At the start up D is formed from p threw Storms process PePD And then D reacts with Ni in a Oppenheimer-Phillips process. The new protons then recycle back to D. This may provide

Re: [Vo]:X-rays, IR, RF the Rossi effect

I wrote: Apart from noise in measurements, such a discrepancy might be due to natural variation in the isotopic composition of nickel; to a reaction eating away some of the 61Ni and 64Ni; or to Rossi's using a preparation that is somehow depleted in these specific isotopes. I think the

Re: [Vo]:X-rays, IR, RF the Rossi effect

Its entirely conceivable that if the nickel micro particles are spaced far enough apart, then no transmutation from nickel to copper will be seen. The magnetic beams that produce the LENR reaction will usually project away from the tips of the nanowire field emitters on the micro particles. The

Re: [Vo]:X-rays, IR, RF the Rossi effect

On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 11:50 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Its entirely conceivable that if the nickel micro particles are spaced far enough apart, then no transmutation from nickel to copper will be seen. Personally, I haven't found transmutation from nickel to copper credible for

Re: [Vo]:X-rays, IR, RF the Rossi effect

From page 41 of the test document... To remove the siloxane that has diffused over the particle surface the area being analyzed is sputtered. Figure 7 show the positive mass spectrum from a particle surface sputter cleaned for 180 seconds. The analyst cleaned the micro powder before he checked

Re: [Vo]:X-rays, IR, RF the Rossi effect

On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: http://newenergytimes.com/v2/sr/RossiECat/docs/20121204Kullander-Ni-Isotopes-LIG1204121.pdf It is not the one from Kullander that I am looking for but it mentions some of the same details. I see that this analysis was

RE: [Vo]:X-rays, IR, RF the Rossi effect

Jones-- I mean data from an operating reactor. The data from the ash is also desirable. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE SmartphoneJones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Bob, Eric Actually – if you remember from TP1, the Swedes did test the powder with XRF. They did not report

RE: [Vo]:X-rays, IR, RF the Rossi effect

Bob, Obviously there is not enough data. For better or worse, that problem may end soon. The dedicated sites are awash with predictions of a TP2 report by the end of next week. http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/10/06/e-cat-report-watch-thread/ I hope it is not yet another

Re: [Vo]:X-rays, IR, RF the Rossi effect

In reply to Jones Beene's message of Sun, 5 Oct 2014 16:00:17 -0700: Hi, [snip] -Original Message- From: mix...@bigpond.com Since the catalyst absorbed 27.2 eV, it must eventually release this back into the environment in order to return to its own original condition... (Note that the

Re: [Vo]:X-rays, IR, RF the Rossi effect

Erric I agree with your comment. That is the reason we should look at the TPT carefully to see if it was designed to look inside any of the reactors Rossi supplied to monitor conditions. If not, I for one will be skeptical of conclusions regarding scientific conclusions. Bob Cook

RE: [Vo]:X-rays, IR, RF the Rossi effect

Bob, Eric Actually – if you remember from TP1, the Swedes did test the powder with XRF. They did not report any UV signature. They should have if Mills reaction is involved as you seem to be suggesting. Rossi was not pleased- as the Swedes were not supposed to report this test. They

Re: [Vo]:X-rays, IR, RF the Rossi effect

The UV signature would only be seen when the LENR reaction was active. It the Rossi reactor hydrogen is required as a dielectric envelope since solitons will not form without hydrogen. The Mills reaction must be different chemically...more self contained chemically. On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 11:37

Re: [Vo]:X-rays, IR, RF the Rossi effect

Jones, Why do you believe that the Swedes would have seen a 55 eV signature? Almost all x-ray probes for XRF and EDAX have windows covering the sensor and few windows pass below about 1keV photons. A 55 eV signature would be well below this window. Also, if it were to show, it may only show in

RE: [Vo]:X-rays, IR, RF the Rossi effect

Bob, The window is fused silica. This is obvious choice and one of very few UV transparent materials. I’m sure you are aware that the old EPROMs used fused quartz windows. This is essentially what Lehigh did for the Thermacore testing. X-rays do indeed expand hydrinos - which is not

RE: [Vo]:X-rays, IR, RF the Rossi effect

The window is fused silica. This is an obvious choice and one of very few UV transparent materials… old EPROMs used fused quartz windows. Hmm… one wonders if a hacked and almost free UV detector could be made using an old EPROM? Perhaps one could write a lot of ordered data on the

RE: [Vo]:X-rays, IR, RF the Rossi effect

Bob This is also a fundamental assertion by Mills, that energy transfer must occur without photons. That is why Mills requires a catalyst with a matched electronic energy transition to the f/H state he is trying to stimulate. Right – but that describes emission “on the way down”

Re: [Vo]:X-rays, IR, RF the Rossi effect

Why would you assert any form of non-reciprocity? It is a reciprocal mechanism. In the f/H state, the electron has insufficient angular momentum to exchange energy with a photon. So how is the f/H atom going to absorb a photon to return to normal ground state? It cannot. It must take in

RE: [Vo]:X-rays, IR, RF the Rossi effect

From: Bob Higgins Why would you assert any form of non-reciprocity? It is a reciprocal mechanism. In the f/H state, the electron has insufficient angular momentum to exchange energy with a photon. So how is the f/H atom going to absorb a photon to return to normal ground state? It

Re: [Vo]:X-rays, IR, RF the Rossi effect

On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 8:37 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Actually – if you remember from TP1, the Swedes did test the powder with XRF. ... They did not report any UV signature. They should have if Mills reaction is involved as you seem to be suggesting. Personally, I would not

Re: [Vo]:X-rays, IR, RF the Rossi effect

Is this in reference to the test where Rossi drove the E-Cat to Sweden and the core casing was cracked? They glued it back together best they could, it came unglued halfway through, and they figured there was no reaction/excess heat as a result, but they checked the ash to be sure. If this is the

RE: [Vo]:X-rays, IR, RF the Rossi effect

Here is one report that turns up http://newenergytimes.com/v2/sr/RossiECat/docs/20121204Kullander-Ni-Isotopes-LIG1204121.pdf It is not the one from Kullander that I am looking for but it mentions some of the same details. This is worth study… From: Foks0904 Is this in

Re: [Vo]:X-rays, IR, RF the Rossi effect

Just because 55 eV photons were seen does not mean that they came from H entering the f/H state or from re-inflation (which is supposed to be endothermic). Since (according to Mills' theory), a catalyst must be involved, these photons would have to be coming from the catalyst or other evanescent

Re: [Vo]:X-rays, IR, RF the Rossi effect

In reply to Jones Beene's message of Sun, 5 Oct 2014 08:37:57 -0700: Hi, [snip] These x-ray will “expand” dense hydrogen and return a UV signature in so doing. Note that the expansion would be in the form of ionization (where the ionized electron would absorb any extra energy from the x-ray as

RE: [Vo]:X-rays, IR, RF the Rossi effect

Bob, Well – once again, we can agree to disagree. For me, the most obvious explanation for the spectroscopy of the Thermacore sample, after megajoules of energy gain was shed… is that the nickel sample, as it was received by the University, retained substantial f/H embedded in the

Re: [Vo]:X-rays, IR, RF the Rossi effect

In reply to Jones Beene's message of Sun, 5 Oct 2014 08:37:57 -0700: Hi, [snip] The Lehigh University testing in fact finds no 27.2 eV signature, as Mills theory once suggested (in my edition of CQM) Please quote chapter and verse. I am not aware of this ever having been predicted. What he

RE: [Vo]:X-rays, IR, RF the Rossi effect

Of note: If the Rossi effect – (big “if”) does depend for success upon a versions of f/H - which is largely a product of Mills theory, but with a few notable difference, then the “secret sauce” can be identified, and it is kind of an eye-opener. It is a specialty nickel powder, which has been

RE: [Vo]:X-rays, IR, RF the Rossi effect

-Original Message- From: mix...@bigpond.com Since the catalyst absorbed 27.2 eV, it must eventually release this back into the environment in order to return to its own original condition... (Note that the 27.2 eV released by the excited catalyst may not be in the form of a 27.2 eV UV

[Vo]:X-rays, IR, RF the Rossi effect

The ironic thing about the Rossi effect, in terms of the Theories and Hypotheses which are floating around in alternative energy (from those who are not convinced that anyone really understands it), is that the radiation band which is apparently absent for Rossi is ultraviolet - UV and EUV. In the

Re: [Vo]:X-rays, IR, RF the Rossi effect

The XUV wavelength will fit nicely inside the circumference of a 2 or 3 nanometer diameter SPP soliton whispering gallery wave formed at the tip of the nickel nanowire(tubules in Rossi-speak)). XUV is formed as FANO resonance refabricates and reformates gamma and infrared wavelengths through

Re: [Vo]:X-rays, IR, RF the Rossi effect

On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 10:28 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: The ironic thing about the Rossi effect ... is that the radiation band which is apparently absent for Rossi is ultraviolet - UV and EUV. X-rays below ~ 10 keV will be stopped by a simple metal casing. EUV will be stopped

RE: [Vo]:X-rays, IR, RF the Rossi effect

From: Eric Walker The ironic thing about the Rossi effect ... is that the radiation band which is apparently absent for Rossi is ultraviolet - UV and EUV. X-rays below ~ 10 keV will be stopped by a simple metal casing. EUV will be stopped by much less. I think we don't really know what