This 9 minute video does a good job of explaining why the JWST images raise
serious questions about the validity of the Big Bang. The youtuber speaks
in a relaxed tone and appears to be more interested in getting closer to
the truth rather than in taking sides.
Looking back, sooner or later the universe always proves to be much bigger
than what we have been taught.
Harry
On Sat, Aug 27, 2022 at 9:15 PM Terry Blanton wrote:
> It's turtles all the way down.
>
> On Sat, Aug 27, 2022 at 1:39 PM H LV wrote:
>
>> A big bang, a big bounce, a black hole, a
Intervention is nigh:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mission_Earth_(novel_series)
On Sat, Aug 27, 2022 at 7:53 PM Robin
wrote:
> In reply to Vibrator !'s message of Sat, 27 Aug 2022 20:49:36 +0100:
> Hi,
> [snip]
> >
>
Reality is a derivative of consciousness.
On Sat, Aug 27, 2022 at 6:48 PM H LV wrote:
> “I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from
> consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk
> about, everything that we regard as existing,
It's turtles all the way down.
On Sat, Aug 27, 2022 at 1:39 PM H LV wrote:
> A big bang, a big bounce, a black hole, a network, a collision of
> membranes, a gas of strings...
>
> She argues that all these attempts to explain the origin of the universe
> are creation myths expressed in the
In reply to Vibrator !'s message of Sat, 27 Aug 2022 20:49:36 +0100:
Hi,
[snip]
>https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RXOssOGtruFqA1h8TA_eWqMaPgF4unUQ/view?usp=sharing
It would be nice if the URL's listed here were actually clickable. :)
Next to each entry you have a 1 line summary. You could make
“I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from
consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk
about, everything that we regard as existing, postulates consciousness.” --
Max Planck
Source: The Observer (25 January 1931)
Lots of amazing discoveries to plough through so i'll try keep it brief,
however a certain minimum of word-space is required just to summarise
current findings:
• there are multiple different alien beings visiting constantly
• there are multiple different humanoids using saucer craft
ie.
A big bang, a big bounce, a black hole, a network, a collision of
membranes, a gas of strings...
She argues that all these attempts to explain the origin of the universe
are creation myths expressed in the language of mathematics. That doesn't
make them wrong, but it does make them _ascientific_.
Physics has no clue of the photon. So you are free to speculate in any
direction.
Currently we use the envelope function to describe a traveling photon.
Of course this function contradicts basic Maxwell equations as E/B are
never symmetric.
Solar photon emission produces a pressure that
The original tired light hypothesis was rejected as an explanation of the
hubble red shift relation because it predicted more distant galaxies would
appear fuzzier then we observe. The predicted the fuzziness was a
consequence of scattering causing the red shift. However, perhaps a new
version of
Cosmology is the gossip kitchen table for sidelined physicists
Enjoy the nice pictures of galaxies but do not believe any version
II,III etc. of bibles genesis like big bang.
Most fake facts about black holes have been debunked as nonsense simply
because real physics cannot work with
Eric Lerner argues the "unexpected" data from the JWST is expected in an
non-expanding universe. Of course if the universe is not expanding he also
says explaining the hubble redshift relation would require some new physics.
Harry
On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 7:32 PM Jones Beene wrote:
> As Lerner
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Wed, 24 Aug 2022 23:32:47 + (UTC):
Hi,
[snip]
>Maybe CMB should not be observable in 3 space at all.
I would agree if it were what they think it is.
>
>IOW - it can be argued that the cosmic background is itself poorly understood
>and not the best
As Lerner admits, the CMB is the main thing which is holding the big bang
theory together.
Yet the 'experts' really can't explain exactly how CMB radiation, which is
moving away from us at light-speed from a single point in time, manages to
somehow magically be reflected back so as to be
Eric Lerner comments on the first data from the JWST:
The Big Bang didn't happen
What do the James Webb images really show?
https://iai.tv/articles/the-big-bang-didnt-happen-auid-2215
Eric Lerner's claims are deflated in this article:
The LENR reaction is always accompanied by charge separation. Ken
Shoulders observed that Exotic vacuum objects (EVO) were always found with
charge separation. The double layer formations in SAFIRE is another example
of such charge separation. The cause of charge separation is the Meissner
effect
Galileo made the assumption when he argued for the equivalence of the
experience being below deck on ship at rest vs below deck on ship in
uniform motion. (see passage below). By omitting the rotation of the Earth,
Galileo was able to formulate a practical rule. Newton later elevated the
rule into
https://mindmatters.ai/2022/08/james-webb-space-telescope-shows-big-bang-didnt-happen-wait/
Harry
H LV wrote:
Lets assume the earth is not rotating.
>
Will our assumption stop it from rotating?
WWII Admiral Willis Lee was one of the world's top experts in artillery. He
would calculate battleship gun trajectories including the effects of the
earth's rotation. He would include so many
Lets assume the earth is not rotating.
Harry
On Tue, Aug 16, 2022 at 3:17 PM Robin
wrote:
> In reply to H LV's message of Tue, 16 Aug 2022 14:38:42 -0400:
> Hi,
> [snip]
>
> You also need to take into consideration that objects in motion relative
> to the Earth's surface will experience more
In reply to H LV's message of Tue, 16 Aug 2022 14:38:42 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
You also need to take into consideration that objects in motion relative to the
Earth's surface will experience more or
less centrifugal force depending on their direction of motion relative to the
rotation of the
Hey vorts, this is a question about weight. No advanced physics is
involved.
Suppose you have a surface with built in sensors so it will tell you the
weight of an object placed anywhere on it.
Assume the surface is flat and level and the acceleration due to gravity is
everywhere constant.
Will the
https://www.reddit.com/r/hydrino/comments/wo5bnf/on_the_quantisation_of_angular_moment/
They were funded by one of the smallest countries in the world. Alas,
without Prince Hans funding, Earthtech is no more. However, George is
still running.
https://www.hathawayresearch.com/
On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 9:57 PM Jones Beene wrote:
> Slightly off-topic ...
>
> Some of this stuff
Slightly off-topic ...
Some of this stuff could have gone mainstream if Earth-Tech had validated any
form of OU.
They gave it a try and to their credit did not cut corners... and they had some
provocative results
... had they been better funded - who knows?
Terry Blanton wrote:
https://thejournalofcosmology.com/Puthoff.pdf
Maybe QM is modelling a deterministic system after all!
https://www.reddit.com/r/hydrino/comments/wk3cud/on_the_stern_gerlach_experiment/
Not a post redit full of facts, but surely logically interesting and some
of you may enjoy it or get motivated to try bust the myth.
https://www.reddit.com/r/hydrino/comments/wj6l2w/on_slit_experiments_and_bells_inequality/
The SAFIRE project is a system in which polariton Bose condensation is at
play. This system converts what is generally microscopic into the
macroscopic. The inches wide anode serves to support a inches wide
polariton Bose condensate. Bose condensation is mathematically described
by
A superconductor is able to produce a Higgs field (SHF) that is nearly
identical to the cosmic Higgs field that applies mass to
fundamental particles. This field generation is accomplished through the
agency of the Higgs mechanism.
The ability of a condensed matter system to produce a micro
Larry Forsley just uploaded the final Short Course video which is about
glow discharge reactions:
>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4QBbgJyk7w
Thanks Jed.
On Thu, 4 Aug 2022 at 01:40, Jed Rothwell wrote:
> I do not recall an experiment that produced a lot of steam. Maybe the glow
> discharge ones? They went for 15 minutes before the electrode dissolved.
> They did produce a lot of steam.
>
>>
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Wed, 3 Aug 2022 17:40:16 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
>Here is the first draft of my presentation at ICCF24:
>
>
>Rothwell, J. *How to fix global warming with cold fusion.* in *ICCF24
>Solid-state Energy Summit.* 2022. Mountain View, CA.
>
>
Very inspiring. Well done.
On Wed, 3 Aug 2022 at 22:41, Jed Rothwell wrote:
> Here is the first draft of my presentation at ICCF24:
>
>
> Rothwell, J. *How to fix global warming with cold fusion.* in *ICCF24
> Solid-state Energy Summit.* 2022. Mountain View, CA.
>
>
>
You are a genius. I think by going to v eq c, r, go to the fine structure
constant just as Mills stated and I suspect that Vietas formula can be
deduced as that formula includes a recursion the looks very similar to what
you get if you consider surface tension in the tube you have in the torus
On
I do not recall an experiment that produced a lot of steam. Maybe the glow
discharge ones? They went for 15 minutes before the electrode dissolved.
They did produce a lot of steam.
>
Here is the first draft of my presentation at ICCF24:
Rothwell, J. *How to fix global warming with cold fusion.* in *ICCF24
Solid-state Energy Summit.* 2022. Mountain View, CA.
https://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RothwellJhowtofixgl.pdf
Suggestions and corrections are welcome.
If anyone
"Clean Planet" has a boiler under development in partnership with Miura
Co.,Ltd., leading boiler manufacturer in Japan. There does not appear to be a
convincing video that I can find.
Frank Grimer wrote:
Thanks Terry but that's not it. I seem to remember a specimen, presumably
Thanks Terry but that's not it.
I seem to remember a specimen, presumably large, in a bath - I had an image
of a domestic bath but presumably it was probably something smaller - and
vast quantities of steam being released over a long time period - vastly
more than could arise from a chemical
On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 10:11 AM Frank Grimer <88.fr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I can't remember where I read that Mizuno had demonstrated a specimen in a
> water bath which generated impossible amounts of steam. Can anyone provide
> a link to that experiment please?
>
>>
>>
I don't know about
I can't remember where I read that Mizuno had demonstrated a specimen in a
water bath which generated impossible amounts of steam. Can anyone provide
a link to that experiment please?
On Tue, 2 Aug 2022 at 14:16, Jed Rothwell wrote:
> Jonathan Berry wrote:
>
> Wrist watches of course don't
There are many misconception in classic standard model physics that
includes Mills.
See a preliminary version of "basics of physics" ::
https://www.lenr-forum.com/attachment/21523-basics-of-physics36-pdf/
The problem in Mills argumentation is the notion of charge at light
speed. Charge is
Just an idea, hear me out.
The kinetic mechanism in wrist watches is hardly tapping out the potential
for such a source of energy, the kinetic mechanism I'm sure doesn't give
the wearer any perceivable feedback from the tiny weight, therefore he
could wear 2, or 20 without much issue (at least in
In reply to Stefan Israelsson Tampe's message of Tue, 2 Aug 2022 22:43:31
+0200:
Hi,
The "orbital" speed of a Bohr orbit electron is the fine structure constant
times the speed of light. I suspect that has
some physical significance.
>Isn't that defined by fundamental constants. Or do you
Isn't that defined by fundamental constants. Or do you mean that one can
spot interesting things about it? Else mills ideas applies
On Tue, 2 Aug 2022, 22:15 Robin wrote:
> In reply to Stefan Israelsson Tampe's message of Tue, 2 Aug 2022 21:27:28
> +0200:
> Hi,
>
> This looks interesting.
In reply to Stefan Israelsson Tampe's message of Tue, 2 Aug 2022 21:27:28
+0200:
Hi,
This looks interesting. Have you tried adding the fine structure constant to
the picture?
>As a background you will need to understand the not surprising helical
>model and that space can't allow high enough
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Tue, 2 Aug 2022 09:15:54 -0400:
Hi,
Years ago, I proposed a very simple solution to the problem of recharging
pacemaker batteries, on this list:- Use a
lossy air core transformer to recharge the battery as required. Sure it
wouldn't be efficient, but it
As a background you will need to understand the not surprising helical
model and that space can't allow high enough magnetic and electrical
fields.
Here is my take on it (it's not a new idea i suppose),
http://itampe.com/on-modeling-the-electron-loop-and-the-origin-of-mass.html
Now on top of
Jonathan Berry wrote:
Wrist watches of course don't need such frequent replacement, but more-over
> there are both kinetic and solar solutions.
>
That's true. There are probably some small devices similar to wrist watches
that are not moved or left in sunlight that could use a long-lived
Wrist watches of course don't need such frequent replacement, but more-over
there are both kinetic and solar solutions.
Solar seems to have won out because it can be charged from an intense light
source quickly and because you don't need to wear it for it to be provided
with energy.
They (at
USD 1471.75 million
“The Global Hearing Aid Batteries Market Size was estimated at *USD 1471.75
million in 2021* and is projected to reach USD 2057.13 million by 2028,
exhibiting a CAGR of 4.90% during the forecast period. ”
On Mon, Aug 1, 2022, 8:28 AM Jed Rothwell wrote:
> Many researchers
Many researchers have said that experimental devices that produce only
milliwatts of power have no practical use. That is true, because these
devices are not reliable. Power is not constant, and it cannot be
controlled. If it could be controlled, and if the device could be
miniaturized, it would
Please foklks,
There is no Higgs mass as there is no Higgs particle.
CERN could find nothing in the range of 300 GeV .. 8TeV where the Higgs
was expected.
So CERN did use a so called "spare particle" that first has been seen
around 1998. It's a fat proton thus a real particle not a
The next facit of the theory is how the Higgs mode in superconductors
allows for the generation of an anti higgs vacuum potential in a condensed
matter system that will deconstruct elements through the manipulation of
the masses of quarks.
The Higgs field and superconductors are intimately
Speaking of Ni isotopes... Axil mentions Ni64 and Ni62 in this LENR context
... Is it significant that the Higgs mass is close to twice the average mass of
nickel? An alloy of copper and nickel can be produce which is essentially
identical in mass to twice Higgs.
Coincidence of irrelevant ?
Particle physicists have an issue with our universe, it is not natural.
This wildly unnatural universe is at the bottom of our cold fusion
experience. The improbable existence of our universe is what makes cold
fusion possible. Our reality is setting on the knife's edge of existence. A
minimal
Thank you Christy!
http://www.infinite-energy.com/resources/ICCF24-Solid-State-Energy-Summit.html
In reply to Andrew Meulenberg's message of Sat, 23 Jul 2022 09:50:22 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
>Both classical and quantum physicists get fixed within their own framework.
>"To a hammer, everything looks like a nail."
If a hammer is all you have in your toolbox, then it's severely lacking. ;)
[snip]
If
In reply to Vibrator !'s message of Sat, 23 Jul 2022 13:55:04 +0100:
Hi,
[snip]
>The issue is that a graviton would be a spin-0 gauge boson, commuting only
>attractive force; a spin-1 mediator of both attractive and repulsive
>forces is obvs already fulfilled by photons or virtual photons.
>
Sean,
You asked "Is it meaningful to speak of "resonance" when something is
rotating in only one direction?"
Consider a car engine. Ignoring any internal resonances, it has a max-power
point at some frequency. If you add a muffler, you have modified the
external environment to the engine (most
Some incredible updates to report on:
• the list now includes many more examples of box-orbs linking up like this
You can watch as two box-orbs approach one another, touch and partially
merge, then extrude the tether out between them as they part. Then they
fly off together as a unit. There's
The issue is that a graviton would be a spin-0 gauge boson, commuting only
attractive force; a spin-1 mediator of both attractive and repulsive
forces is obvs already fulfilled by photons or virtual photons.
Qualitatively, 'gravity' reduces to a time-constant rate of exchange of
signed momentum,
Hi,
See https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0304885319325454
If no one clicked on ads companies would stop paying for them. :)
Thanks old Beene. I haven't read that one.
Notice Chevron is also an investor and Norman is their 5th generation
reactor vessel.
Cheers!
On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 7:14 PM Jones Beene wrote:
> Terry
>
> Here is a little better coverage
>
>
>
Terry
Here is a little better coverage
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/30/photos-inside-tae-technologies-lab-and-nuclear-fusion-machine.html
Were it not for Google being involved, however, it would probably be yet
another "meh" hot fusion effort - perpetually thirty years away... BUT
More on the Google-funded TAE fusion success:
https://www.newsweek.com/nuclear-fusion-google-reactor-norman-tae-technologies-1726342
On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 3:57 PM Terry Blanton wrote:
> Meanwhile, there's TAE's Norman
>
>
>
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Fri, 22 Jul 2022 16:11:24 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
>Some people call the gain the "COP," but I think that is technically
>inaccurate. That means "coefficient of production." As far as I know it
>only applies to heat pumps. They do not create any energy, as I am sure
8:54 AM Jones Beene wrote:
> For many years they have claimed modest COP but nothing commercializable
>
> Can they now demonstrate net real gain?
>
Any gain is real, even 0.1%. Perhaps you mean "significant gain" or "gain
enough for practical or economic use."
I think Steve Krivit and some
Meanwhile, there's TAE's Norman
https://world-nuclear-news.org/Articles/TAE-Technologies-secures-funds-to-build-next-fusio
I think they are now claiming an electrical -thermal COP of 2.7.
On Fri, Jul 22, 2022, 6:54 AM Jones Beene wrote:
> Can anyone comment on the reality of the Brillouin "breakthrough" claim ?
>
> For many years they have claimed modest COP but nothing commercializable
>
> Can they now demonstrate
Can anyone comment on the reality of the Brillouin "breakthrough" claim ?
For many years they have claimed modest COP but nothing commercializable
Can they now demonstrate net real gain?
Jed Rothwell wrote:
QUOTE:
Brillouin Energy Corp Demonstrates CleanTech Licensable Solid State
QUOTE:
Brillouin Energy Corp Demonstrates CleanTech Licensable Solid State Fusion
Boiler System at the 24th Annual International Conference on Cold Fusion (
www.iccf24.org) July 25th – 28th at the Computer History Museum in Mountain
View, California
Breakthrough boiler system uses hydrogen to
NRA regulates fissionable content of fuel at 5% or less. All fuel is
buffered with U238 at 95% or more to prevent proliferation. The fissionable
content produces Pu239 from U238. U233 inclusion in the fuel as the
fissionable component makes the reprocessing of the used fuel very
dangerous because
I don't know.
On Mon, Jul 18, 2022 at 8:46 PM Sean Logan wrote:
> Dear Andrew,
>
>Thank you for the information on Falaco Solitons. Is Cartan the one
> who introduced the idea of "rotating spacetime" into the theory of
> Relativity?
>
>>
Hi,
https://www.neimagazine.com/news/newsus-oak-ridge-to-process-remaining-uranium-233-7743784
Does anyone know why U-233 would not be considered viable in fission reactor?
If no one clicked on ads companies would stop paying for them. :)
Dear Andrew,
Thank you for the information on Falaco Solitons. Is Cartan the one who
introduced the idea of "rotating spacetime" into the theory of Relativity?
>
In reply to MSF's message of Mon, 18 Jul 2022 20:26:34 +:
Hi,
[snip]
>I admit to being a thorium aficianado with a heavy prejudice toward the
>development of the thorium molten salt reactor. I have often wondered about
>its abandonment.
>
>So, from my point of view, I am quite pleased that
Sean,
You ask " Do you think we could make a macroscopic electron? I mean, one
that's a couple feet across?"
You have asked the right question. Sarfatti, at the end of his "update" (
https://www.academia.edu/s/18395c2bc3?source=ai_email ), includes his
equations for a macroscopic wormhole. He
Oh, excuse me :) That message was meant for "Vibrator !"
I like what you have to say about electrons. Do you think we could make a
macroscopic electron? I mean, one that's a couple feet across?
On Sat, Jul 16, 2022 at 9:10 PM Andrew Meulenberg
wrote:
> just an interested bystander
>
just an interested bystander
On Sat, Jul 16, 2022 at 10:00 PM Sean Logan wrote:
>
> Are you on the welcoming committee?
>
> Perhaps it's time you made liaison with the box orb pilots.
>
>
This sounds like an example of the whirling of shafts
"Whirling of shafts occurs due to *rotational imbalance of a shaft*, even
in the absence of external loads, which causes resonance to occur at
certain speeds, known as critical speeds."
Large electricity generating turbines have to be taken
Are you on the welcoming committee?
Perhaps it's time you made liaison with the box orb pilots.
I have a question about things that rotate: Is it meaningful to speak of
"resonance" when something is rotating in only one direction (Clockwise,
for example)? When I think of "resonance", I think of a guitar string
vibrating back and forth, or a parallel LC circuit, with the current
flowing
Did you check out https://www.academia.edu/s/18395c2bc3?source=ai_email ?
On Mon, Jul 4, 2022 at 7:04 PM Vibrator ! wrote:
> I didn't put any on tick tok.
>
> I didn't 'put' any anywhere.
>
> Again, every day for the last few weeks i've come home from work and
> checked YouTube for the last 24
Dear Sean,
I like your derivation. It appears to be another indication of the
resonance giving stability to the electron at a specific "size". A similar
exercise gives its angular momentum to be 1/2 that of the photon
simultaneously forming it and the positron.
I think of a sphere of the
Real, the car accelerates to a greater speed, and the end point is below
the starting point.
On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 at 19:02, Frank Grimer <88.fr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlSv_IlXmBg
>
> Two cars.
>
> Green low road car arrives first.
>
> Real or Fake.
>
> Please
Frank
The effect is an interesting phenomenon even if the tendency is to overlook
rolling resistance and friction. But the problem for the average observer - the
problem with any metaphor or model for LENR - after all these years, is simple.
No commercial device.
Not just no commercial
Thanks Jones.
To me it is a metaphor for catalysis.
One half of component A drops down the field pressure gradient to the low
road and speeds up.
The other half dawdles along the surface.
They both meet up at B and complete their reaction.
The reaction speed for the low road is therefore much
In reply to Sean Logan's message of Tue, 12 Jul 2022 16:09:28 -0700:
Hi Sean,
Frankly I'm not sure what it means myself, but it can't be a coincidence, and
is likely a clue to the nature of
space-time, or at least the nature of the electron. "mean something" was both
meant to be taken
Hello,
Are you suggesting that long ago, in the time of Classical Physics,
someone performed the same simple algebraic calculation I just did, and
looked with consternation upon the result? "Hmm, you guys, this number
seems to be off. Let's multiply it by a correction factor. We'll call it
In reply to Sean Logan's message of Tue, 12 Jul 2022 12:44:55 -0700:
Hi,
BTW I wonder if relativistic mass increase should be taken into account, if
it's spinning at the speed of light (or
close to it), and if the fine structure constant is related to that?
[snip]
If no one clicked on ads
In reply to Sean Logan's message of Tue, 12 Jul 2022 12:44:55 -0700:
Hi Sean,
If you multiply your value by the fine structure constant, you get the
classical electron radius. If you divide by the
fine structure constant, you get the Bohr radius. This has to "mean" something.
;)
>Dea Robin,
Dea Robin,
I ran the numbers, and the radius comes out even larger than the
"Classical Electron Radius". Here I wrote up my work in Latex so it's easy
to read:
https://spaz.org/~magi/appendix/electron-latex.html
I got an electron radius of:
r = 3.863395 x 10^-13 meters
Whereas the
In reply to Sean Logan's message of Mon, 11 Jul 2022 18:15:19 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
>Hurricanes have cores too. Called the 'eye'. Would it be possible to make
>a macroscopic electron, by stirring the Natural Medium around fast enough?
>Don't electrons rotate at something like 790 times the speed of
>
>
> With a quasi solid core where the speed of rotation exceeds the
> information transmission speed of the fluid/field (FLEID).
>
> Bit like an apple really. :-)
>
Hurricanes have cores too. Called the 'eye'. Would it be possible to make
a macroscopic electron, by stirring the Natural
>
> I would be more inclined to say that electrons are eddies, rather than
> whole atoms. I think of the other particles in
> the zoo as composite eddies. (Wheels within wheels as it were.)
With a quasi solid core where the speed of rotation exceeds the information
transmission speed of the
In reply to Sean Logan's message of Mon, 11 Jul 2022 14:24:06 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
>Ahh, so even atoms are made of this stuff? I like your description of them
>as ''eddies'' in the liquid. When you're paddling a canoe, as you pull the
>paddle out of the water, (after a stroke), there is sometimes
Ahh, so even atoms are made of this stuff? I like your description of them
as ''eddies'' in the liquid. When you're paddling a canoe, as you pull the
paddle out of the water, (after a stroke), there is sometimes a little
whirlpool flowing away. Didn't Rene Descartes propose the idea that atoms
In reply to Sean Logan's message of Mon, 11 Jul 2022 12:14:14 -0700:
Hi Sean,
[snip]
>Robin,
>
> Would you like to propose an experiment, to help us learn about the
>nature of this Ocean?
If you start with a uniform fluid, then the only way to introduce particles is
through rotations within
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