Re: BBC Horizon to feature Taleyarkhan

2005-02-21 Thread Grimer
At 01:45 am 21-02-05 -0600, you wrote: snip I've been reading about the Yuri Popatov's Yusmar machine, which AFAIK, produces LENR's in an aquas solution by means of a vortex. Heat is a big item with Russians, and electricity costs something there too. The fact that he has lots of orders for

Re: BBC Horizon to feature Taleyarkhan

2005-02-21 Thread Edmund Storms
thomas malloy wrote: thomas malloy wrote: Ed Storms responded' Once again, we are being treated to one more example of exaggeration and BS. The Taleyarkhan cavitation work is hot fusion occurring in bubbles, not cold fusion. I don't understand how hot fusion in bubbles differs from what the

Re: BBC Horizon to feature Taleyarkhan

2005-02-21 Thread thomas malloy
thomas malloy wrote: thomas malloy wrote: Ed Storms responded' I've been reading about the Yuri Popatov's Yusmar machine, which AFAIK, produces LENR's in an aquas solution by means of a vortex. Heat is a big item with Russians, and electricity costs something there too. The fact that he has

Re: BBC Horizon to feature Taleyarkhan

2005-02-20 Thread Steven Krivit
Thomas, I don't understand how hot fusion in bubbles differs from what the other LERN researchers are doing, I've written about this in detail in my book, and also in part, in two articles in the New Energy Times newsletter #8 http://newenergytimes.com/news/8.htm . Search on bubble and

Re: BBC Horizon to feature Taleyarkhan

2005-02-20 Thread Edmund Storms
thomas malloy wrote: Ed Storms responded' Once again, we are being treated to one more example of exaggeration and BS. The Taleyarkhan cavitation work is hot fusion occurring in bubbles, not cold fusion. I don't understand how hot fusion in bubbles differs from what the other LERN

Re: BBC Horizon to feature Taleyarkhan

2005-02-20 Thread thomas malloy
thomas malloy wrote: Ed Storms responded' Once again, we are being treated to one more example of exaggeration and BS. The Taleyarkhan cavitation work is hot fusion occurring in bubbles, not cold fusion. I don't understand how hot fusion in bubbles differs from what the other LERN researchers

BBC Horizon to feature Taleyarkhan

2005-02-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
[It is absurd that these people think a claim can be disproved with a single experiment! And if they do not really believe that, they should not say it, because people viewing the television will believe them. - JR] Horizon Thu 17 Feb, 9:00 pm - 9:50 pm 50mins (BBC2) An Experiment to Save the

Re: BBC Horizon to feature Taleyarkhan

2005-02-17 Thread Michael Huffman
Gnorts, Taleyarkhan has been doing cavitation experiments for over thirty years, Jed. Knuke Am Donnerstag, 17. Februar 2005 16:47 schrieb Jed Rothwell: [It is absurd that these people think a claim can be disproved with a single experiment! And if they do not really believe that, they should not

Re: BBC Horizon to feature Taleyarkhan

2005-02-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
Michael Huffman wrote: Gnorts, Taleyarkhan has been doing cavitation experiments for over thirty years, Jed. And the BBC has been doing them for -- what? -- six weeks? And yet they claim: If the experiment works, then the world could be on the way to a new form of cheap, unlimited, pollution

Re: BBC Horizon to feature Taleyarkhan

2005-02-17 Thread Jones Beene
Ahoy Knuke, Taleyarkhan has been doing cavitation experiments for over thirty years, Even so, it was a big mistake, and typical mainstream arrogance, that in all the publicity that Taleyarkhan recieved (riding on the ORNL coat-tails) that he did not credit nor even mention the extraordinary

RE: BBC Horizon to feature Taleyarkhan

2005-02-17 Thread Keith Nagel
Horizon to feature Taleyarkhan Michael Huffman wrote: Gnorts, Taleyarkhan has been doing cavitation experiments for over thirty years, Jed. And the BBC has been doing them for -- what? -- six weeks? And yet they claim: If the experiment works, then the world could be on the way to a new form

Re: BBC Horizon to feature Taleyarkhan

2005-02-17 Thread Grimer
At 10:47 am 17-02-05 -0500, you wrote: [It is absurd that these people think a claim can be disproved with a single experiment! And if they do not really believe that, they should not say it, because people viewing the television will believe them. - JR] Horizon Thu 17 Feb, 9:00 pm - 9:50 pm

Re: BBC Horizon to feature Taleyarkhan

2005-02-17 Thread Edmund Storms
of LENR finally come out? I for one am getting kind of sick of the dreaming K. -Original Message- From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 12:05 PM To: vortex-L@eskimo.com Subject: Re: BBC Horizon to feature Taleyarkhan Michael Huffman wrote

Re: BBC Horizon to feature Taleyarkhan

2005-02-17 Thread Michael Huffman
Moin Moin! I'm just glad (and a bit surprised, actually) to see Taleyarkhan's work being examined at all. I read very vague references to his work when I first started researching cavitation in 1993, and that was in the form of some BBS messages or something. It wasn't even on the internet.

Re: BBC Horizon to feature Taleyarkhan

2005-02-17 Thread Steven Krivit
have !). Caveat: this criticism relates to the first ORNL announcement and they may have issued an addenda, but if so, it didn't make the news. I am told that the second paper addressed the criticism from the first paper: http://newenergytimes.com/news/8.htm#impulsedevices s

Re: BBC Horizon to feature Taleyarkhan

2005-02-17 Thread Jones Beene
Given a moment to reflect on ALL of the circumstances...DUH... one should always follow the buck first and ask questions later. Even so, it was a big mistake, and typical mainstream arrogance, that in all the publicity that Taleyarkhan recieved (riding on the ORNL coat-tails) that he did not

Re: BBC Horizon to feature Taleyarkhan

2005-02-17 Thread Grimer
At 10:44 am 17-02-05 -0700, you wrote: Once again, we are being treated to one more example of exaggeration and BS. The Taleyarkhan cavitation work is hot fusion occurring in bubbles, snip or cold fusion occuring in Beta-aether vacua cavities. 8^) Grimer

Re: BBC Horizon to feature Taleyarkhan

2005-02-17 Thread Edmund Storms
I think it's easier not to confuse cold fusion with hot fusion by introducing the Beta-ether concept. We have enough trouble just talking about what is known without introducing what is unknown. Cold fusion describes nuclear reactions that take place in special atomic lattices without

Re: BBC Horizon to feature Taleyarkhan

2005-02-17 Thread Terry Blanton
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Re: BBC Horizon to feature Taleyarkhan

2005-02-17 Thread Jones Beene
- Original Message - From: Michael Huffman Actually, I think that I am confusing Taleyarkhan with an earlier researcher with a similar name. I did a quick Google, and came up with a paper at: http://www.sciencemag.org/feature/data/hottopics/bubble/1067589.pdf Hey, along similar