Horace Heffner wrote:
On Jan 18, 2006, at 3:22 PM, Kyle Mcallister wrote:
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From: Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-L@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, 18 January, 2006 09:20 AM
Subject: Re: Gaia Scientist: DO PANIC
I suggest you stop spreading rumors about
I wrote:
And Jed Rothwell responded
2. CO2 is the big target at the moment. When we switch to hydrogen-fired
cars, how long do you bet it will take before there is a big green push to
limit H2O vapor emissions?
This suggestion (made by someone else) is ridiculous. It is a comic
book
A few thoughts occur to me on this.
1. I have heard many ultraenvironmentalists sending out this line of
If you want to sell books, the best bet is to tell people what they
want to hear.
The Wager:
A. If it turns out that we are truly doomed from what we have been/are doing
re: CO2
thomas malloy wrote:
2. CO2 is the big target at the moment. When we switch to hydrogen-fired
cars, how long do you bet it will take before there is a big green push to
limit H2O vapor emissions?
This suggestion (made by someone else) is ridiculous. It is a comic
book caricature of
Terry wrote:
For those who did not read any of this, he's selling a book, er, too.
g
He's about 86 and probably free from commercial pressures... Maybe he's just
concerned about the future.
Nick Palmer
--- John Coviello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Global Warming Has Arrived. Get used to it and sell
any property that you
own in flood prone areas.
That reminds me of something I have wondered about.
I live in a town on the South shore of Lake Ontario.
If global warming results in a rise
Rhong Dhong wrote:
--- John Coviello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Global Warming Has Arrived. Get used to it and sell
any property that you
own in flood prone areas.
That reminds me of something I have wondered about.
I live in a town on the South shore of Lake Ontario.
If global
On Jan 18, 2006, at 3:51 AM, Rhong Dhong wrote:
That reminds me of something I have wondered about.
I live in a town on the South shore of Lake Ontario.
If global warming results in a rise in sea-level, will
the raging waters travel down the St. Lawrence Seaway,
and raise the level of Lake
Lake Ontario is 245 ft above sea level. No need to worry.
Jeff
- Original Message -
From: Rhong Dhong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 7:51 AM
Subject: Re: Gaia Scientist: DO PANIC
--- John Coviello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
Horace Heffner wrote:
On Jan 18, 2006, at 3:51 AM, Rhong Dhong wrote:
That reminds me of something I have wondered about.
I live in a town on the South shore of Lake Ontario.
If global warming results in a rise in sea-level, will
the raging waters travel down the St. Lawrence Seaway,
and
Yup!
A quick google says Lake Ontario sits at 243' above
sea level. If we raise the water that much we are all
in trouble.
--- Horace Heffner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 18, 2006, at 3:51 AM, Rhong Dhong wrote:
That reminds me of something I have wondered
about.
I live in a town
- Original Message -
From: Rhong Dhong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 7:51 AM
Subject: Re: Gaia Scientist: DO PANIC
--- John Coviello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Global Warming Has Arrived. Get used to it and sell
any property that you
- Original Message -
From: Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-L@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, 18 January, 2006 09:20 AM
Subject: Re: Gaia Scientist: DO PANIC
I suggest you stop spreading rumors about environmentalism, and try
to stick to critiquing actual statements made by real
On Jan 18, 2006, at 3:22 PM, Kyle Mcallister wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-L@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, 18 January, 2006 09:20 AM
Subject: Re: Gaia Scientist: DO PANIC
I suggest you stop spreading rumors about environmentalism, and try
http://news.independent.co.uk/environment/article338878.ece
Environment in crisis: 'We are past the point of no return'
Thirty years ago, the scientist James Lovelock worked out that the
Earth possessed a planetary-scale control system which kept the
environment fit for life. He called it
Not to worry. There is a last resort escape route:
http://mtaonline.net/~hheffner/LastResort.pdf
Maybe smoke from all the global warming forest fires resulting from
desertification will hold things off a bit. Looks like Iran has
opted for nuclear war, so maybe a bit of nuclear winter will
.
- Original Message -
From: Kyle Mcallister [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: Gaia Scientist: DO PANIC
A few thoughts occur to me on this.
1. I have heard many ultraenvironmentalists sending out this line of
reasoning over the years
A few thoughts occur to me on this.
1. I have heard many ultraenvironmentalists sending out this line of
reasoning over the years, and have heard them say that they are absolutely
sure we are in serious trouble, and that it is all man's fault. Many say
they would be their life on it, 100%
-Original Message-
From: Kyle Mcallister
A. If it turns out that we are truly doomed from what we have been/are
doing
re: CO2 emissions, then the ultraenvironmentalists win the wager, and
we all
die by default.
So far, it's just the polar bears. Never liked 'em anyway.
Did you
-Original Message-
From: Horace Heffner
Not to worry. There is a last resort escape route:
http://mtaonline.net/~hheffner/LastResort.pdf
Maybe smoke from all the global warming forest fires resulting from
desertification will hold things off a bit. Looks like Iran has opted
for
-Original Message-
From: hohlrauml6d
http://news.independent.co.uk/environment/article338878.ece
Environment in crisis: 'We are past the point of no return'
Thirty years ago, the scientist James Lovelock worked out that the
Earth possessed a planetary-scale control system which
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, 17 January, 2006 08:51 PM
Subject: Re: Gaia Scientist: DO PANIC
For those who did not read any of this, he's selling a book, er, too.
g
Yes, that sort of was disturbing to me. If I had personally found
On Jan 17, 2006, at 8:44 PM, Kyle Mcallister wrote:
I do notice also that the albedo argument has returned: without
polar ice
reflecting sunlight back into space, the darker arctic water will get
hotter. Butthis means more water vapor. Clouds, anyone?
Low altitude clouds improve
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