Re: [Vo]:BLP demo - the energizing electrodes

2014-01-22 Thread Axil Axil
More... from a post here on vortex back on 12/31/12 to vortex-l I looked at the Papp cannon video again. At 3:00 in, Papp is filling the cannon from one of the flasks. It has a sizable amount of clear liquid at the bottom of that flask. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2tuk31pS2M&feature=playe

Re: [Vo]:BLP demo - the energizing electrodes

2014-01-22 Thread Axil Axil
History of Water Arc Explosions : The unusual strength of explosions caused by a pulsed current flowing through water plasma was first noticed in 1907 by Trowbridge. in his early high voltage laboratory at Harvard University. When he passed an arc through a spray of water, the resulting explos

RE: [Vo]:BLP demo - the energizing electrodes

2014-01-22 Thread Mike Carrell
many physicist regard as sacred. Mike Carrell From: Eric Walker [mailto:eric.wal...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 11:13 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:BLP demo - the energizing electrodes On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Axil Axil wrote: By the way

Re: [Vo]:BLP demo - the energizing electrodes

2014-01-22 Thread Nigel Dyer
I agree that the patent is written to confuse. By carefully selecting a few sentences and paragraphs from the patent I think it is possible to find a rather neat semi-continuous flow version of an intersting development of the Graneau water arc system, which is consistent with the rather sketc

Re: [Vo]:BLP demo - the energizing electrodes

2014-01-21 Thread Eric Walker
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Axil Axil wrote: By the way. the patent is written to confuse and it is successful. The > patent defines every voltage, amperage, pulse rate and arc duration, and > every chemical that exists. In short, it says everything and its says > nothing. That is consist

RE: [Vo]:BLP demo - the energizing electrodes

2014-01-21 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Terry Blanton > This demo will be a success if there is looped system (fully self-powering) > in the 100 watt range, even if there is no usable excess. Do you honestly think that there is the slightest possibility that Mills will present a self-powering device?

Re: [Vo]:BLP demo - the energizing electrodes

2014-01-21 Thread Axil Axil
It is difficult to show an over unity capability when the devise uses external power. Papp did it by starting his engine with a battery, then he removed the battery, and the engine continued to run for all long time. That was a good demo because it was easy to understand. Mills might prove his poi

Re: [Vo]:BLP demo - the energizing electrodes

2014-01-21 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > This demo will be a success if there is looped system (fully self-powering) > in the 100 watt range, even if there is no usable excess. Do you honestly think that there is the slightest possibility that Mills will present a self-powering dev

Re: [Vo]:BLP demo - the energizing electrodes

2014-01-21 Thread Axil Axil
Re from the patent: The current may be AC, DC or an AC-DC mixture. In an embodiment, comprising a magnetohydrodynamic plasma to electric power converter, the current is DC such that a DC magnetic field is produced by the current. The MHD converter is not developed yet so the demo will require

RE: [Vo]:BLP demo - the energizing electrodes

2014-01-21 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Nigel Dyer The components of the demo don't look to me to be much like, for example the Catalyst Induced Hydrino Transition Electrochemical Cell, so I was trying to work out what what we know about this configuration. For example, the energizing electrodes that

Re: [Vo]:BLP demo - the energizing electrodes

2014-01-21 Thread Nigel Dyer
Just re-read the patent. One embodiment involves a voltage of less than about 10V, and another involves a voltage of at least 2kV. That covers first and third base. The high voltage option would be interesting. I guess we wait and see if there are any clues at the demo itself. Nigel On 21/