Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-15 Thread Eric Walker
Two points to add to what has already been said in connection with the initial item in Rossi's statement, below -- First, the English of the response is indeed more "lucid" than in the past. It sounds like parts of the statement have been copied and pasted from a lawyer's email. Second, it's poss

Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-15 Thread Harry Veeder
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 5:19 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson < svj.orionwo...@gmail.com> wrote: > From Harry: > > >> Rest assured. Rossi's true colors, whether they be pro or con, will > >> eventually be revealed. > > > > You don't think they have already been revealed? > > No. > > All I've seen

Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-15 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Harry: >> Rest assured. Rossi's true colors, whether they be pro or con, will >> eventually be revealed. > > You don't think they have already been revealed? No. All I've seen is endless speculation on Rossi's business ventures. While there has been plenty of armchair criticism, (some of w

Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-15 Thread Michele Comitini
Follows true Rossi's speech in capital letters. Who are the investors? http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=580&cpage=3#comment-185350 Andrea Rossi February 15th, 2012 at 12:23 PM I AM RECEIVENG EMAILS REGARDING: 1- THE “MILLIONAIRE” WHO OFFERS 1 MILLION FOR A TEST AND 2- WHAT WE THINK

Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-15 Thread Harry Veeder
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 2:32 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson < svj.orionwo...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Rest assured. Rossi's true colors, whether they be pro or con, will > eventually be revealed. > > You don't think they have already been revealed? Unless he suddenly discovers the value of collabo

Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-15 Thread Jarold McWilliams
Rossi is either ignorant, or he is a blatant liar. Either way, it doesn't look good. Now, that doesn't mean he doesn't have an LENR device, but he loses all credibility from me. It would be no different if I claimed to have a working cold fusion device and am working with a secret customer.

Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-15 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton wrote: > I agree, Jed. Rossi has about as much chance of collecting from Dick > Smith as from James Randi. > Yes!! Randi is hysterical. If this works out and Rossi becomes famous, he should send Randi an invoice. Just for the fun of it. Heck, *I'll* send him one. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-15 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > I suppose Rossi thinks Smith is a faker. I have some doubts about Smith > myself. Usually, when someone offers you $1 million just to do a test, he is > not serious. If he had offered $50,000 or $100,000 it would be more > believable. I agre

Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-15 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Jarold, You seem to have issues with Rossi's quirky unpredictable behavior. Many do. You are in good company. If you are leaning towards the opinion that Rossi is a fraud you can at least feel assured of the fact that your opinion is shared by many. I'm sure Krivit would approve. Why don't you pos

Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-15 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jarold McWilliams wrote: What was the point in the 1 MW sales then if he didn't need the money? > Couldn't he have partnered with someone without the wasted time on the 1 > MW plant? You really don't think his customers are reverse engineering his > technology if it is a 64 trillion dollar busi

Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-15 Thread Jarold McWilliams
What was the point in the 1 MW sales then if he didn't need the money? Couldn't he have partnered with someone without the wasted time on the 1 MW plant? You really don't think his customers are reverse engineering his technology if it is a 64 trillion dollar business? Dick Smith is just anot

Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-15 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Jarold: > There is absolutely no excuse why Rossi wouldn't accept this offer. > I was sitting on the fence with Rossi, but now I'm leaning more > towards him being a fraud. ... Many here (including myself) wish that Rossi would accept the challenge. However, Rossi is under no obligation to

Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-15 Thread Jarold McWilliams
There is absolutely no excuse why Rossi wouldn't accept this offer. I was sitting on the fence with Rossi, but now I'm leaning more towards him being a fraud. It is a million dollars for a simple test. It would be a much better use of his time than writing about snakes and clowns on his blog.

Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-15 Thread Peter Gluck
I disagree. I have already told that CLOWN for the US people is an evil person and Rossi is using this meaning. Have seen some US movies re clowns who were very bad people, sadistic. Pagliacci has a more tragic conotation. The second greatest enemy of Rossi is a snake. The third is a clown. The fir

Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-15 Thread Gigi DiMarco
I think Rossi is adding to English more words, coming in some sense from Italian, than in the last 5 centuries. Clownerie has been translated by Akira into travesty. Clownerie is another Rossi's invention, if I can imagine what take places into his brain I think the right path is clown ==> pagliac

Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-14 Thread Patrick Ellul
Just for the record, this is Rossi's updated response: Andrea Rossi February 14th, 2012 at 6:23 PM Dear Archibald Fields: This is a Clownerie. If this guy wants to test a 1 MW plant and has 1 million to spend he can buy a 1

Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-14 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2012-02-15 00:56, Andre Blum wrote: Rossi's answer Andrea Rossi February 14th, 2012 at 6:23 PM Dear Archibald Fields: This is a Clownerie. Please note: "clownerie" = travesty Cheers, S.A.

Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-14 Thread Daniel Rocha
arantee. Our plants Are tester by Our > Customers and the Consultants they chiose. I have not time at all for this > clownery. > Warm Regards, > A.R. > > -------- Original Message > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy? > From: Jed Rothwell >

Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-14 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2012-02-15 00:46, Jed Rothwell wrote: I predict that Rossi will ignore this offer. Yep: http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=580&cpage=3#comment-185047 Andrea Rossi February 14th, 2012 at 6:23 PM Dear Archibald Fields: This is a Clownerie. If this guy wants to test a 1 MW plant a

Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-14 Thread Andre Blum
Rossi's answer Andrea Rossi February 14th, 2012 at 6:23 PM Dear Archibald Fields: This is a Clownerie. If this guy wants to test a 1 MW plant and has 1 million to spend he can buy a 1 MW plant, with a regular contract,

RE: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-14 Thread Craig Brown
. Original Message Subject: Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy? From: Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> Date: Wed, February 15, 2012 9:46 am To: "vortex-l@eskimo.com" <vortex-l@eskimo.com> I predict that Rossi will ignore this offer. If I were him,

Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
I predict that Rossi will ignore this offer. If I were him, I would accept it. But he has said he will do no tests, and he can be very stubborn. For some reason the decision is irrevocable. This is odd because he often changes his mind and changes his plans radically. One reason he will not

Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-14 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
reading the last 50 posts or so, could we just calm down a bit, an not comment on every piece of junk, anyone has been fishing out of the river of possibilities, while waiting for the big catch, or Godot, or whatever. Wait a week, then another one. As long as I can remember, the clock was 5 be

Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-14 Thread Andre Blum
m: Robert Lynn mailto:robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com>> > To: vortex-l mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com>> > Sent: Tue, Feb 14, 2012 2:20 pm > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy? > > > The media are going to love this, and they wil

RE: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-14 Thread Patrick Ellul
Also, how did krivit get hold of the email? Especially if he was deliberately cced, Rossi will see it as coming from a snake's friend. On Feb 15, 2012 7:33 AM, "Patrick Ellul" wrote: > Rossi will not flinch. He will ignore this request and dismiss it with > "not worth the effort". > On Feb 15, 20

Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-14 Thread pagnucco
Rossi is certainly an enigmatic character, but it is highly improbable that he would slow his race with Defkalion if they both have real LENR technology for such a small amount, nor would Rossi accept it if e-cat is a fraud. Either way, Smith can be pretty sure his offer will receive no response.

RE: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-14 Thread Patrick Ellul
Rossi will not flinch. He will ignore this request and dismiss it with "not worth the effort". On Feb 15, 2012 7:23 AM, "Jones Beene" wrote: > > > -Original Message- > From: Terry Blanton > > > Hmm Is this Margot and her sister, with Rossi's cash, ready and > waiting ??? > > http://im

RE: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-14 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Terry Blanton > Hmm Is this Margot and her sister, with Rossi's cash, ready and waiting ??? http://images.smh.com.au/2010/08/11/1771929/smith420-420x0.jpg Outstanding! "Constant Growth = Doom" ?!? >From the looks of it constant growth will equal BOOM!

Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-14 Thread Robert Lynn
I don't know why he wants to go back to March 29, and not, for example, the Oct 5 (was it?) Heat Exchanger version, and to use steam rather than water. Also, Rossi only guarantees COP=6, not 8. K&E would be fine to supervise ... but I think I'd go with recommendations from Jed (ISTR) to hire an HV

Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-14 Thread Peter Gluck
amboyant publicity seeker. > > > > > An X-Prize would be an excellent idea. I hope that Mr. Smith gives this > > concept serious consideration. > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > -Original Message----- > > From: Robert Lynn &

Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-14 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 2:58 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: > With special emphasis on the vowels in "BOOM"... or "DOOM" depending > on the interpretation. Or, in Greek: ΒΘΘΜ T

Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-14 Thread pagnucco
n X-Prize would be an excellent idea. I hope that Mr. Smith gives this > concept serious consideration. > > Dave > > > > -Original Message- > From: Robert Lynn > To: vortex-l > Sent: Tue, Feb 14, 2012 2:20 pm > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will sti

Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-14 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Terry sez: >> http://images.smh.com.au/2010/08/11/1771929/smith420-420x0.jpg > > Outstanding! > > "Constant Growth = Doom"  ?!? > > From the looks of it constant growth will equal BOOM! With special emphasis on the vowels in "BOOM"... or "DOOM" depending on the interpretation. Regards Steven Vin

Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-14 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > Hmm Is this Margot and her sister, with Rossi's cash, ready and waiting > ??? > > http://images.smh.com.au/2010/08/11/1771929/smith420-420x0.jpg Outstanding! "Constant Growth = Doom" ?!? >From the looks of it constant growth will equal

Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-14 Thread Chemical Engineer
ynn > To: vortex-l > Sent: Tue, Feb 14, 2012 2:20 pm > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy? > > The media are going to love this, and they will be very damning if Rossi > doesn't accept. > > If he is prepared to put such money on the line it wou

Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-14 Thread David Roberson
An X-Prize would be an excellent idea. I hope that Mr. Smith gives this concept serious consideration. Dave -Original Message- From: Robert Lynn To: vortex-l Sent: Tue, Feb 14, 2012 2:20 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy? The media are going to love

Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-14 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2012-02-14 20:19, Robert Lynn wrote: The media are going to love this, and they will be very damning if Rossi doesn't accept. Exactly this. Cheers, S.A.

Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-14 Thread Robert Lynn
The media are going to love this, and they will be very damning if Rossi doesn't accept. If he is prepared to put such money on the line it would be nice if Smith opened this up to all-comers, like an X-Prize, eg for a consistently replicable cold fusion reaction with a gain of 5-10 and power outp

Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-14 Thread pagnucco
I have a hard time seeing why Rossi would pay any attention to this: (1) If his e-cat is real, $1M is a miniscule distraction. (2) If it's a mistake or fraud, replying would foolish. > On 2012-02-14 17:14, Chemical Engineer wrote: >> _Smith Offers $1 Million Prize for Successful E-Cat Demo_

Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-14 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 08:14 AM 2/14/2012, Chemical Engineer wrote: Smith Offers $1 Million Prize for Successful E-Cat Demo My offer is very simple, which I will restate:  I ask you to repeat the March 29, 2011 demonstration purported to show that your E-CAT unit had an output power of many times the input power t

Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-14 Thread Daniel Rocha
Dick Smith is betting that ecat is being fed by a ground device. Rossi will be surely successful and this will make other skeptics angry, such those that bet on heated metal (preposterous) or on a compact chemical support (quite reasonable). 2012/2/14 Jones Beene > Hmm Is this Margot an

RE: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-14 Thread Jones Beene
Hmm Is this Margot and her sister, with Rossi's cash, ready and waiting ??? http://images.smh.com.au/2010/08/11/1771929/smith420-420x0.jpg From: Robert Leguillon > I'm sure it's just coincidence, but did you notice that "Margot Egan" is an anagram of "No Mortgage"? <>

Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-14 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2012-02-14 17:14, Chemical Engineer wrote: _Smith Offers $1 Million Prize for Successful E-Cat Demo_ Somebody quickly forward this to Andrea Rossi! This is an offer he simply cannot r

Re: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-14 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
I love it! I hope Rossi accepts the challenge. The pessimist within me however thinks he won't. I'm inclined to think Rossi might be inclined to reply with something to the effect that he's too busy to spend time on what he will try to describe as nothing more than unimportant parlor demonstratio

RE: [Vo]:Do you think Rossi will still be too busy?

2012-02-14 Thread Robert Leguillon
The simplicity is elegant. Repeat your most-cited demonstration, and you'll get $1 million USD, no strings attached. You can buy use the money for whatever you want - "You can use it for further research - perhaps to re-purchase your house or even donate some of the money to charity." I'