Re: [Vo]:pictures of 1mw E-cat plant shipping

2013-05-07 Thread Alan Fletcher
Rossi interview (Stirling Allen and Frank Acland) Main news : A Early in the interview, Rossi explained that the 1 MW plant that I saw demonstrated on October 28, 2011 was not delivered to the confidential military customer. There were many glitches that needed to be worked through first:

Re: [Vo]:pictures of 1mw E-cat plant shipping

2013-05-07 Thread Alan Fletcher
Interview with Andrea Rossi About 1 MW E-Cat Plant Delivery http://pesn.com/2013/05/07/9602310_Interview_with_Andrea_Rossi_About_1-MW-E-Cat-Plant_Delivery/

Re: [Vo]:pictures of 1mw E-cat plant shipping

2013-05-04 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Fri, May 03, 2013 at 01:06:21PM -0500, Jack Cole wrote: Looks like AR has delivered on his promise. http://www.e-catworld.com/2013/05/e-cat-shipping-pictures-posted-on-the-jonp/ That being showing photos of a shipping container?

Re: [Vo]:pictures of 1mw E-cat plant shipping

2013-05-04 Thread Susanna Gipp
There's non need to compare scratches for who carefully followed the 2011 Oct demo. What i wanted to point out is that A.R. promised pictures of the customer delivery of three assets but what we saw is just the moving of the same old box from a dismissing facility (bologna) to the new one

Re: [Vo]:pictures of 1mw E-cat plant shipping

2013-05-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: That's the small incandescent gadget in the foreground. Right? Much smaller than a 1 MW reactor, shown behind it. Here is Rossi's description of the incandescent gadget: http://www.e-catworld.com/2012/10/final-update-corrected-again-pordenone-hot-cat-report/ - Jed

Re: [Vo]:pictures of 1mw E-cat plant shipping

2013-05-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
Susanna Gipp susan.g...@gmail.com wrote: I know that for hard believing fans these worth gold but for us poor skeptics it looks like one of our smart energy hero's countless jokes. It might be a joke, but it would be an expensive and pointless one. What purpose would it serve? If he is

Re: [Vo]:pictures of 1mw E-cat plant shipping

2013-05-04 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Sat, May 04, 2013 at 09:37:17AM -0400, Jed Rothwell wrote: Susanna Gipp susan.g...@gmail.com wrote: I know that for hard believing fans these worth gold but for us poor skeptics it looks like one of our smart energy hero's countless jokes. It might be a joke, but it would be an

RE: [Vo]:pictures of 1mw E-cat plant shipping

2013-05-04 Thread Jones Beene
This could be absurdly false - and could kill any remaining credibility that Rossi has. I will defer to anyone who does this kind heat transfer calculation on a regular basis but it looks absurd to me now based on the one basic simple issue - heat transfer limitations. With only 20 grams

Re: [Vo]:pictures of 1mw E-cat plant shipping

2013-05-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: This could be absurdly false - and could kill any remaining credibility that Rossi has. If absurdity could kill credibility Rossi would have none. He is a charming fellow but he tends to say and do absurd things. At least, they seem absurd from the

Re: [Vo]:pictures of 1mw E-cat plant shipping

2013-05-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: An automobile catalytic converter has very little Pd in it. The metal is exposed to a terrific flow of hot gas. Yet the Pd does not sublime or vaporize. Plus, most of the hot gas must come in contact with the Pd particles, because it is all catalyzed (cleaned up). I assume if there

Re: [Vo]:pictures of 1mw E-cat plant shipping

2013-05-04 Thread Edmund Storms
The role of the substrate depends on the mechanism. While all of the proposed mechanism are applied to Pd, this does not mean Pd is the only material that supports the NAE. People have used Ti, Ni, various alloys, and various oxides with success. Once the NAE can be made on purpose and in

Re: [Vo]:pictures of 1mw E-cat plant shipping

2013-05-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: While all of the proposed mechanism are applied to Pd, this does not mean Pd is the only material that supports the NAE. People have used Ti, Ni, various alloys, and various oxides with success. The ENEA and others still research mainly Pd, or

Re: [Vo]:pictures of 1mw E-cat plant shipping

2013-05-04 Thread Harry Veeder
The local production of energy does not necessarily have to result in a local production of heat. For example see this article posted by pagnucco a few days ago. http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2013/apr/22/spin-waves-carry-energy-from-cold-to-hot On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Jones

RE: [Vo]:pictures of 1mw E-cat plant shipping

2013-05-04 Thread Jones Beene
Harry - I liked that paper - but aren't you adding up the miracles ? i.e. the thermal miracle first and with spin current as the second miracle? One conceivable scenario using only the original miracle is this - if the reaction rate is so strong that hot ions of intermediate energy (tens of

Re: [Vo]:pictures of 1mw E-cat plant shipping

2013-05-04 Thread Axil Axil
You criticize others for being disconnected from reality, from experimental data, having preconceptions, and using imagination to invent thinks disengaged from reality. This conversation is a good example of the The pot calling the kettle black. Look at the experimental data describing the assay

Re: [Vo]:pictures of 1mw E-cat plant shipping

2013-05-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jack Cole jcol...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like AR has delivered on his promise. http://www.e-catworld.com/2013/05/e-cat-shipping-pictures-posted-on-the-jonp/ Ha! Good for him. He often does what he says he will do. It may be there really are 11 professors working on an evaluation. Based on

Re: [Vo]:pictures of 1mw E-cat plant shipping

2013-05-03 Thread Susanna Gipp
I would better title this thread as pictures of 1MW E-cat towing. Who didn't recognize the same Oct 2011 demo big box at the Bologna's facility? 2013/5/3 Jack Cole jcol...@gmail.com Looks like AR has delivered on his promise.

Re: [Vo]:pictures of 1mw E-cat plant shipping

2013-05-03 Thread Alan Fletcher
At 12:10 PM 5/3/2013, you wrote: I would better title this thread as pictures of 1MW E-cat towing. Who didn't recognize the same Oct 2011 demo big box at the Bologna's facility? I suppose you could compare the scratch marks etc etc. Myself, I would have taken greater care to strap down all

Re: [Vo]:pictures of 1mw E-cat plant shipping

2013-05-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
Susanna Gipp susan.g...@gmail.com wrote: I would better title this thread as pictures of 1MW E-cat towing. Who didn't recognize the same Oct 2011 demo big box at the Bologna's facility? It is the same one, isn't it? This is the 1 MW reactor, not the hot cat. That's smaller than 1 MW isn't it?

Re: [Vo]:pictures of 1mw E-cat plant shipping

2013-05-03 Thread Terry Blanton
Let's hope it's not Dempsey Dumpster. :-)

Re: [Vo]:pictures of 1mw E-cat plant shipping

2013-05-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
Oops! It seems I was incorrect. Apparently that might be the hot cat or the warm cat. I get these mixed up. Someone informed me: To be fair Rossi did say that the 'warm-cat' would be in the re-fitted container from the 2011 demo! The point is, something is being shipped to someone for testing.

RE: [Vo]:pictures of 1mw E-cat plant shipping

2013-05-03 Thread Arnaud Kodeck
the garage. _ From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] Sent: vendredi 3 mai 2013 22:14 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:pictures of 1mw E-cat plant shipping Susanna Gipp susan.g...@gmail.com wrote: I would better title this thread as pictures of 1MW E-cat towing

Re: [Vo]:pictures of 1mw E-cat plant shipping

2013-05-03 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2013-05-03 20:06, Jack Cole wrote: Looks like AR has delivered on his promise. http://www.e-catworld.com/2013/05/e-cat-shipping-pictures-posted-on-the-jonp/ This photo just posted by Daniele Passerini is way more interesting:

Re: [Vo]:pictures of 1mw E-cat plant shipping

2013-05-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote: Source: http://22passi.blogspot.it/**2013/05/fino-al-limite-di-** rottura.htmlhttp://22passi.blogspot.it/2013/05/fino-al-limite-di-rottura.html It's a 6 months old photo (previously unreleased) of a Hot-Cat being pushed to its operating

Re: [Vo]:pictures of 1mw E-cat plant shipping

2013-05-03 Thread Michele Comitini
If exif is true the picture was shot by an iPhone4. Supposedly Passerini's phone http://www.findexif.com/?l=1r9hJxo 2013/5/4 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote: Source: http://22passi.blogspot.it/**2013/05/fino-al-limite-di-**

Re: [Vo]:pictures of 1mw E-cat plant shipping

2013-05-03 Thread Patrick Ellul
Direct link to high definition of the panorama photo: http://postimg.org/image/6v14pk649/full/ On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Michele Comitini michele.comit...@gmail.com wrote: If exif is true the picture was shot by an iPhone4. Supposedly Passerini's phone