Re: [Vo]: Fake nuclear test?

2006-10-13 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
OrionWorks wrote: From Steve Lawrence From Steven Vincent Johnson From what I gather China is terrified of the disquieting possibility of furthering the collapse of the regime. China also is a rather extreme proponent of non-interference in the domestic affairs of other countries.

RE: [Vo]: Fake nuclear test?

2006-10-13 Thread Steven Vincent Johnson
Hi Stephen, Non-interference? I beg to differ. You might want to take that up with a few Tibetans. Tibet is part of China, of course, and what China does with Tibet is all internal affairs of China. :-/ Again, you might want to take that up with a few Tibetians. :-\ I don't believe

RE: [Vo]: Fake nuclear test?

2006-10-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
I spoke with Mizuno again last night. He reports that he is still not seen a trace of evidence from an underground nuclear test. He himself is in charge of the equipment. In fact he seems to be the only one who knows how to use it. It is top notch stuff from the cold war era. He and I

Re: [Vo]: Fake nuclear test?

2006-10-13 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: Hi Stephen, Non-interference? I beg to differ. You might want to take that up with a few Tibetans. Tibet is part of China, of course, and what China does with Tibet is all internal affairs of China. :-/ Again, you might want to take that up with a few

RE: [Vo]: Fake nuclear test?

2006-10-13 Thread Steven Vincent Johnson
Nice history lesson Stephen. Enjoyed wandering down memory lane with you. Perhaps it is a tad naive of me to say this but I would like to believe that things are slowing improving - two steps forward, one step back. I have this strange vision that some day in the not to distant future (lets say

Re: [Vo]: Fake nuclear test?

2006-10-12 Thread Wesley Bruce
Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: Ed sez: Jed sez: If it is a hoax, they have fooled the Chinese government, and enraged it. Since they depend on that government for survival, it seems like a stupid thing to do. Of course, this assumes the Chinese are really upset.

Re: [Vo]: Fake nuclear test?

2006-10-11 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: Ed sez: Jed sez: If it is a hoax, they have fooled the Chinese government, and enraged it. Since they depend on that government for survival, it seems like a stupid thing to do. Of course, this assumes the Chinese are really upset.

RE: [Vo]: Fake nuclear test?

2006-10-11 Thread OrionWorks
From Steve Lawrence From Steven Vincent Johnson From what I gather China is terrified of the disquieting possibility of furthering the collapse of the regime. China also is a rather extreme proponent of non-interference in the domestic affairs of other countries. That's been proposed

Re: [Vo]: Fake nuclear test?

2006-10-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
Robin van Spaandonk wrote: Seismologists estimate the size of the North Korean explosion at between 1 and 15 kilotons. My bet: 1 kt. I mean literally, 1000 tons of explosive. Then they obviously registered something, and clearly not natural. Yes. But several people have suggested it may be

Re: [Vo]: Fake nuclear test?

2006-10-10 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Tue, 10 Oct 2006 09:21:34 -0400: Hi, [snip] They would need to have something in orbit wouldn't they? No. As I suggested, trace amounts of radioactive material migrate out via the instrument leads. See: http://www.slate.com/id/2151214/nav/tap2/ Even if

Re: [Vo]: Fake nuclear test?

2006-10-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
Robin van Spaandonk wrote: No. As I suggested, trace amounts of radioactive material migrate out via the instrument leads. See: http://www.slate.com/id/2151214/nav/tap2/ Even if small amounts of radioactive material did come out via the instrument leads, or even through cracks in the ground,

Re: [Vo]: Fake nuclear test?

2006-10-10 Thread Edmund Storms
Jed Rothwell wrote: Robin van Spaandonk wrote: No. As I suggested, trace amounts of radioactive material migrate out via the instrument leads. See: http://www.slate.com/id/2151214/nav/tap2/ Even if small amounts of radioactive material did come out via the instrument leads, or even

RE: [Vo]: Fake nuclear test?

2006-10-10 Thread Steven Vincent Johnson
Ed sez: Jed sez: If it is a hoax, they have fooled the Chinese government, and enraged it. Since they depend on that government for survival, it seems like a stupid thing to do. Of course, this assumes the Chinese are really upset. Having NK being a nuclear power to distract

Re: [Vo]: Fake nuclear test?

2006-10-10 Thread thomas malloy
Robin van Spaandonk wrote: In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Mon, 9 Oct 2006 20:43:36 -0400 (GMT-04:00): Hi, [snip] Seismologists estimate the size of the North Korean explosion at between 1 and 15 kilotons. My bet: 1 kt. I mean literally, 1000 tons of explosive. The number I heard

Re: [Vo]: Fake nuclear test?

2006-10-09 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Mon, 9 Oct 2006 20:43:36 -0400 (GMT-04:00): Hi, [snip] Seismologists estimate the size of the North Korean explosion at between 1 and 15 kilotons. My bet: 1 kt. I mean literally, 1000 tons of explosive. Then they obviously registered something, and clearly