Re: [Vo]:Swedish scientists claim LENR explanation break-through

2015-10-17 Thread Axil Axil
Why would a SPP as a black hole look like a tachyon? http://phys.org/news/2015-09-law-implies-thermodynamic-black-holes.html Because the area of future and past holographic screens increases in different directions, the direction of time is different for the two types of screens. In past

Re: [Vo]:Swedish scientists claim LENR explanation break-through

2015-10-17 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sat, 17 Oct 2015 01:02:01 -0400: Hi, [snip] >How does electron volts convert to magnetic field strength in tesla? It doesn't directly. They measure different things. However it may be indirectly related in specific circumstances. But it order to answer the

Re: [Vo]:Swedish scientists claim LENR explanation break-through

2015-10-17 Thread mixent
t; >-Original Message- >From: mixent <mix...@bigpond.com> >To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> >Sent: Sat, Oct 17, 2015 12:29 am >Subject: Re: [Vo]:Swedish scientists claim LENR explanation break-through > > >In reply to Axil Axil's message of Fri, 16 Oct 2015 2

Re: [Vo]:Swedish scientists claim LENR explanation break-through

2015-10-16 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Fri, 16 Oct 2015 12:12:26 -0400: Hi, >In the Lugano test, the 100 micro nickel particle swapped either 1, 2, 3 or >4 neutrons from lithium 7 to get to pure Ni62 from Ni58, Ni60 and Ni61 and >this swap happened to all billion atoms of the that particle in one

Re: [Vo]:Swedish scientists claim LENR explanation break-through

2015-10-16 Thread Axil Axil
Not if the energy spike was thermalized throughout a global BEC. On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 5:43 PM, wrote: > In reply to Axil Axil's message of Fri, 16 Oct 2015 12:12:26 -0400: > Hi, > >In the Lugano test, the 100 micro nickel particle swapped either 1, 2, 3 > or > >4

Re: [Vo]:Swedish scientists claim LENR explanation break-through

2015-10-16 Thread Alain Sepeda
o.com/msg104970.html >> >> It involves a new observation about resonance which might tie in with the >> Swede’s paper... >> >> -mark >> >> >> >> *From:* Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] >> *Sent:* Thursday, October 15, 2015 9:47

Re: [Vo]:Swedish scientists claim LENR explanation break-through

2015-10-16 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Fri, 16 Oct 2015 17:58:10 -0400: Hi, [snip] >Not if the energy spike was thermalized throughout a global BEC. It makes no difference. Release of that much energy instantly in such a confined space would result in an explosion, though perhaps not really large

Re: [Vo]:Swedish scientists claim LENR explanation break-through

2015-10-16 Thread Axil Axil
The energy from muon decay leaves electrons and the remainder of this energy is reabsorbed back into the SPP soliton. All the while more muons are generated in a continuing cycle from the SPPs. The Solitons are also slowly decaying through the emission of hawking radiation in the infrared range,

Re: [Vo]:Swedish scientists claim LENR explanation break-through

2015-10-16 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Fri, 16 Oct 2015 20:14:29 -0400: Hi, [snip] >This is called super-absorption. The energy release would be spread equally >throughout a BEC of a billon coherent solitons each getting a few hundred >thousand electron volts. These solitons store energy. Their

Re: [Vo]:Swedish scientists claim LENR explanation break-through

2015-10-16 Thread Axil Axil
This is called super-absorption. The energy release would be spread equally throughout a BEC of a billon coherent solitons each getting a few hundred thousand electron volts. These solitons store energy. Their energy holding capacity is 64 GeV each but most hold far less. Then there is the energy

Re: [Vo]:Swedish scientists claim LENR explanation break-through

2015-10-16 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Fri, 16 Oct 2015 21:11:02 -0400: Hi, [snip] >The energy from muon decay leaves electrons and the remainder of this >energy is reabsorbed back into the SPP soliton. I would expect a fair amount to be lost in neutrinos. Only that which remained with the

Re: [Vo]:Swedish scientists claim LENR explanation break-through

2015-10-16 Thread Axil Axil
see http://www.ecoinventions.ca/iccf-18-keith-fredericks-possibility-of-tachyon/ These thing he sees are SPPs On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 10:09 PM, wrote: > In reply to Axil Axil's message of Fri, 16 Oct 2015 21:11:02 -0400: > Hi, > [snip] > >The energy from muon decay leaves

Re: [Vo]:Swedish scientists claim LENR explanation break-through

2015-10-16 Thread Axil Axil
How does electron volts convert to magnetic field strength in tesla? The top magnetic field strength to produce a quark gluon soup is 10^^13 tesla. On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 12:05 AM, wrote: > In reply to Axil Axil's message of Fri, 16 Oct 2015 22:20:17 -0400: > Hi, > [snip]

Re: [Vo]:Swedish scientists claim LENR explanation break-through

2015-10-16 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Fri, 16 Oct 2015 22:20:17 -0400: Hi, [snip] >see > >http://www.ecoinventions.ca/iccf-18-keith-fredericks-possibility-of-tachyon/ > >These thing he sees are SPPs My first impression is that these tracks are the result of a grain of grit being scraped across the

Re: [Vo]:Swedish scientists claim LENR explanation break-through

2015-10-16 Thread David Roberson
com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Sat, Oct 17, 2015 12:29 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Swedish scientists claim LENR explanation break-through In reply to Axil Axil's message of Fri, 16 Oct 2015 22:20:17 -0400: Hi, [snip] >see > >http://www.ecoinventions.ca/iccf-18-keith-f

Re: [Vo]:Swedish scientists claim LENR explanation break-through

2015-10-16 Thread Axil Axil
70.html >>> >>> It involves a new observation about resonance which might tie in with >>> the Swede’s paper... >>> >>> -mark >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] >>> *Sent:* Thursday, Oc

Re: [Vo]:Swedish scientists claim LENR explanation break-through

2015-10-15 Thread David Roberson
-Original Message- From: Bob Cook <frobertc...@hotmail.com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Thu, Oct 15, 2015 11:14 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Swedish scientists claim LENR explanation break-through It looks to me like Mats scooped all the other news outlets. Go

Re: [Vo]:Swedish scientists claim LENR explanation break-through

2015-10-15 Thread Bob Cook
It looks to me like Mats scooped all the other news outlets. Good work Mats. The paper is quite good and understandable. Neutron spallation and slow neutron transmutation stimulated by a an electric field gradient (maybe across a surface) at a certain resonance. Lots of parameters that can

RE: [Vo]:Swedish scientists claim LENR explanation break-through

2015-10-15 Thread Jones Beene
From: Lennart Thornros * [snip] There are very few 'never' and 'ever' that stands for long… * *“Productivity is never an accident. It is always the result of a commitment to excellence, intelligent planning, and focused effort.” PJM Oops… :-)

Re: [Vo]:Swedish scientists claim LENR explanation break-through

2015-10-15 Thread Jack Cole
I have 2 questions regarding the theory. What testable experimental predictions does it generate? How can it be falsified (or do existing observations already falsify it per Jones)? Jack On Thu, Oct 15, 2015, 4:50 AM Mats Lewan wrote: > Essentially no new physics but a

RE: [Vo]:Swedish scientists claim LENR explanation break-through

2015-10-15 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
ay, October 15, 2015 12:49 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Swedish scientists claim LENR explanation break-through From: MarkI-ZeroPoint Ø Ø I posted a ref from physorg ... It involves a new observation about resonance which might tie in with the Swede’s paper.

Re: [Vo]:Swedish scientists claim LENR explanation break-through

2015-10-15 Thread Lennart Thornros
Hey Jones, I have no way of discussing the issue with you. You are in a different pay grade. However, I am a little amazed about your very final judgement about the theory proposed. I am not saying it is right . I for sure do not say your analysis lack anything. It just amazes me that people in

Re: [Vo]:Swedish scientists claim LENR explanation break-through

2015-10-15 Thread Lennart Thornros
You are right. It rather should read differently. Although it becomes a book then. Not really defending the use of 'never'. In your case it is contrary to what I hear from you and most others here in Vortex. I guess it is the old story about the bar in the eye:) Best Regards , Lennart Thornros

Re: [Vo]:Swedish scientists claim LENR explanation break-through

2015-10-15 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Thu, 15 Oct 2015 12:48:43 -0700: Hi, [snip] There is also the problem of the missing prompt gammas which would be emitted as a consequence of the capture of free neutrons. Note that a neutron transfer/hopping reaction doesn't have this problem because the

RE: [Vo]:Swedish scientists claim LENR explanation break-through

2015-10-15 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
] Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 8:14 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Swedish scientists claim LENR explanation break-through It looks to me like Mats scooped all the other news outlets. Good work Mats. The paper is quite good and understandable. Neutron spallation and slow

Re: [Vo]:Swedish scientists claim LENR explanation break-through

2015-10-15 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 11:16 AM, David Roberson wrote: The concepts they discuss are interesting, but I find it extremely > difficult to believe that neutrons are released freely at low energy. Agreed. Free neutrons are a huge problem if they were occurring. They are

RE: [Vo]:Swedish scientists claim LENR explanation break-through

2015-10-15 Thread Jones Beene
FWIW: Before pinning a medal on these guys, I want to present a contrary opinion. There is no scoop here. Unless it is BS which is being scooped. The theory looks a lot like a mashup of W-L cold neutrons and Hagelstein’s neutron hopping, neither of which have a shread of physical

Re: [Vo]:Swedish scientists claim LENR explanation break-through

2015-10-15 Thread Axil Axil
Ed Storms rightly criticizes charge as a causative factor in LENR because of the Pauli exclusion principle. A charged field that is strong enough to be effective cannot be created because electrons repel each other. The LENR causation force must be produced by a boson. This is where the polariton

Re: [Vo]:Swedish scientists claim LENR explanation break-through

2015-10-15 Thread John Berry
:* Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] > *Sent:* Thursday, October 15, 2015 9:47 AM > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Subject:* RE: [Vo]:Swedish scientists claim LENR explanation > break-through > > > > FWIW: Before pinning a medal on these guys, I want to present a contrar

RE: [Vo]:Swedish scientists claim LENR explanation break-through

2015-10-15 Thread Jones Beene
From: MarkI-ZeroPoint * * I posted a ref from physorg ... It involves a new observation about resonance which might tie in with the Swede’s paper... Mark, No problem with the resonance. It’s the neutrons that are the problem. What the Swedes should know, but apparently do not

RE: [Vo]:Swedish scientists claim LENR explanation break-through

2015-10-15 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
15, 2015 9:47 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Swedish scientists claim LENR explanation break-through FWIW: Before pinning a medal on these guys, I want to present a contrary opinion. There is no scoop here. Unless it is BS which is being scooped. The theory looks a lot