Re: [Vo]:The WIPO Pekka Soininen Patent from May 2013

2013-08-02 Thread Axil Axil
We here at vortex have publically disclosed and discussed many of these concepts (i.e. Rydberg matter, inverted Rydberg matter and clustering) as applied to LENR that have been reveled in this patent back as early as 2010 and 2011. To my knowledge we were the first do so. Does that effect prior

RE: [Vo]:The WIPO Pekka Soininen Patent from May 2013

2013-08-02 Thread DJ Cravens
]:The WIPO Pekka Soininen Patent from May 2013 From: janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com We here at vortex have publically disclosed and discussed many of these concepts (i.e. Rydberg matter, inverted Rydberg matter and clustering) as applied to LENR that have been reveled in this patent back

Re: [Vo]:The WIPO Pekka Soininen Patent from May 2013

2013-08-02 Thread Axil Axil
This is the finnish guy we did a id workup on in the thread: Finnish startup company Etiam OY filed a detailled LENR patent application, published on May 30 2013 On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Chuck Sites cbsit...@gmail.com wrote: First a warning, , If your trying to build an cold fusion

Re: [Vo]:The WIPO Pekka Soininen Patent from May 2013

2013-08-02 Thread torulf.greek
I have read this. They appears to patented the entire periodic table. Hope they real have something and not are patent troll. On Fri, 2 Aug 2013 14:25:24 -0400, Axil Axil wrote: This is the finnish guy we did a id workup on in the thread: Finnish startup company Etiam OY filed a

Re: [Vo]:The WIPO Pekka Soininen Patent from May 2013

2013-08-02 Thread Paul Breed
First a warning, , If your trying to build an cold fusion device for profit via patents you may want to skip this article. Otherwise you will have first hand knowledge of prior art. I don't think ignorance is a valid defense in a patent battle

Re: [Vo]:The WIPO Pekka Soininen Patent from May 2013

2013-08-02 Thread Eric Walker
On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 10:59 AM, DJ Cravens djcrav...@hotmail.com wrote: I find it interesting that they do not mention the role of Deuterium. So p+d and d+d systems might be outside of their claims if it is required. Earlier discussions here raised the point that patent applications would do

Re: [Vo]:The WIPO Pekka Soininen Patent from May 2013

2013-08-02 Thread blaze spinnaker
Yeah? Did you discuss dielectric crystals as a catalyst? Did you discuss them as speculation or as in the context of experiments you had actually performed and results you had achieved? It's possible that Pekka is a proxy for Defkalion or Rossi. They certainly wouldn't be the first company

Re: [Vo]:The WIPO Pekka Soininen Patent from May 2013

2013-08-02 Thread blaze spinnaker
It is, or at least it it ameliorates. On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Paul Breed p...@rasdoc.com wrote: First a warning, , If your trying to build an cold fusion device for profit via patents you may want to skip this article. Otherwise you will have first hand knowledge of prior art. I