Re: [Vo]:Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement

2011-07-15 Thread Joshua Cude
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 11:44 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson < svj.orionwo...@gmail.com> wrote: > From Jed and Josh: > > >> It is all nonsense and bullshit. The 18-hour tests with > >> flowing water proved that the large cell is producing > >> ~17 kW. > > > > If it did, then the steam should ha

Re: [Vo]:Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement

2011-07-15 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Jed and Josh: >> It is all nonsense and bullshit. The 18-hour tests with >> flowing water proved that the large cell is producing >> ~17 kW. > > If it did, then the steam should have been a few hundred > degrees C in the January test, and not 100C. But of course > it doesn't prove anything o

Re: [Vo]:Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement

2011-07-15 Thread Joshua Cude
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 8:53 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > > It is all nonsense and bullshit. The 18-hour tests with flowing water > proved that the large cell is producing ~17 kW. If it did, then the steam should have been a few hundred degrees C in the January test, and not 100C. But of course i

Re: [Vo]:Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement

2011-07-15 Thread Jed Rothwell
Damon Craig wrote: 1) How often the ammeter was observed is unreported. People have done any number of cold fusion experiments, including Ni-H ones, in which input power was recorded on computer. If you don't wish to believe this particular experiment then I suggest you look at some of the

Re: [Vo]:Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement

2011-07-15 Thread Jed Rothwell
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: And this has been said to you many times, Jed, and you keep repeating that this is "nonsense." It is all nonsense and bullshit. The 18-hour tests with flowing water proved that the large cell is producing ~17 kW. The Lewan video proved that the smaller cells are pr

Re: [Vo]:Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement

2011-07-15 Thread Jouni Valkonen
2011/7/15 Abd ul-Rahman Lomax : > I don't know what it is about this, but Jed seems to have lost his ability > to read and understand Of course, it could be me, I suppose. Aren't we > always the last to know? > I think that it is both, because you speak different language. You both think that

Re: [Vo]:Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement

2011-07-15 Thread Damon Craig
You're right. Someone of the group of seven attendees had placed an ammeter on the line. The line voltage is either assumed or measured to be 220 VAC. (Levan reports ~236 VAC.) At least once, the ammeter was read. The quoted phrase referring to start up: "The electric heater was switched on at

Re: [Vo]:Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement

2011-07-14 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
I don't know what it is about this, but Jed seems to have lost his ability to read and understand Of course, it could be me, I suppose. Aren't we always the last to know? At 02:45 PM 7/14/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: Nevertheless, this report from Kullander and Ess

Re: [Vo]:Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement

2011-07-14 Thread Joshua Cude
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: > > Nevertheless, this report from Kullander and Essen could be interpreted >> quite in line with what Krivit is claiming: >> >> http://www.nyteknik.se/**nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/**article324.ece

Re: [Vo]:Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement

2011-07-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: Nevertheless, this report from Kullander and Essen could be interpreted quite in line with what Krivit is claiming: http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/article324.ece The issue would be whether or not this report was an "endorsement." Ah, that r

Re: [Vo]:Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement Krivit/Rossi page

2011-07-14 Thread Alan J Fletcher
With the stop/go mailing, I'm not sure if this is old news : Krivit has added a link from his main blog page to http://newenergytimes.com/v2/sr/RossiECat/AndreaRossiAndHisEnergy-Catalyzer.shtml (Latest entry July 5) where he seems to be collecting all the Rossi-specific stuff.

Re: [Vo]:Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement

2011-07-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
Damon Craig wrote: Check out their report. They report the power input as 500 Watts in their energy calculations. Why? That is incorrect. The report says: "The electric heater was switched on at 10:25, and the meter reading was 1.5 amperes corresponding to 330 watts for the heating including

Re: [Vo]:Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement

2011-07-14 Thread Damon Craig
Hold on boys. Essen and Kullander didn't do any testing. They were passive observers. They brought no equipment. They also reported a lot of things told to them by Rossi as fact, of which they had no direct evidence. Check out their report. They report the power input as 500 Watts in their energy

Re: [Vo]:Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement

2011-07-14 Thread Joshua Cude
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Alan J Fletcher wrote: > > [KRIVIT] Professors Sven Kullander, retired from Uppsala University, and >>> Hanno Essen, with the Royal Institute of Technology, endorsed Rossi's >>> claimed technology in a news story on Feb. 23, 2011, before the

Re: [Vo]:Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement

2011-07-13 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Harry: > From the top of the Ny Teknik feb. 23rd article: ”You just have > to embrace a new technology that might solve the energy problems > of mankind, at least until it can be rejected,” Swedish professor > Sven Kullander said in a scientific discussion on the Italian > ‘energy catalyzer’

Re: [Vo]:Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement

2011-07-13 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
There is the following from: http://ecatreport.com/rossi/andrea-rossi-on-the-e-cat-part-12 Excerpt: > Andrea Rossi on letting some universities test the E-Cat > Rossi went to Uppsala, Sweden the 4th to 5th of July 2011 in > order to enter an agreement with Uppsala University enabling > them to d

Re: [Vo]:Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement

2011-07-13 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 06:26 PM 7/12/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: [KRIVIT] Professors Sven Kullander, retired from Uppsala University, and Hanno Essén, with the Royal Institute of Technology, endorsed Rossi’s claimed technology in a news story on Feb. 23, 2011, before they had seen or inspected the device. Essé

Re: [Vo]:Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement

2011-07-13 Thread Alan J Fletcher
Krivit has modified his statement : Professors Sven Kullander, retired from Uppsala University, and Hanno Essén, with the Royal Institute of Technology, endorsed Rossi’s claimed technology in a news story on Feb. 23, 2011, before they had seen or inspected the device  <***>  on March 29.  <***>

Re: [Vo]:Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement

2011-07-12 Thread Harry Veeder
x-l@eskimo.com >Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 6:26:17 PM >Subject: Re: [Vo]:Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement > >Alan J Fletcher wrote: > >>> [KRIVIT] Professors Sven Kullander, retired from Uppsala University, and >>> Hanno Essén, with the Royal Ins

Re: [Vo]:Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement

2011-07-12 Thread Alan J Fletcher
Also : Andrea Rossi June 17th, 2011 at 3:10 PM Dear Maryyugo: We have already made enough public tests ... About the work that we will make with the University of Bologna and Uppsala, this will not be a public demo, but a work of Research and Development, made closed doors. Warm Regards, A.

Re: [Vo]:Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement

2011-07-12 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 02:49 PM 7/12/2011, Daniel Rocha wrote: My wife got this email from AR: Dear Marcia, I never said that we have a contract with the University of Uppsala. Professors of the University of Uppsala made test with our apparatus, but without a contract. It has been a free, indipendent test. We are i

Re: [Vo]:Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement

2011-07-12 Thread noone noone
It is an outright lie. Krivit is doing everything he can to attack Rossi. From: Jed Rothwell To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 6:26 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement Alan J Fletcher wrote: >> [

Re: [Vo]:Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement

2011-07-12 Thread noone noone
decided to try and discredit it. It is obvious to me he went to Bologna with an agenda to discredit Rossi. From: Terry Blanton To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 6:41 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement It

Re: [Vo]:Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement

2011-07-12 Thread Terry Blanton
It almost makes one think that Krivit has a vested interest elsewhere as AR implicated. T

Re: [Vo]:Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement

2011-07-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
Alan J Fletcher wrote: [KRIVIT] Professors Sven Kullander, retired from Uppsala University, and Hanno Essén, with the Royal Institute of Technology, endorsed Rossi’s claimed technology in a news story on Feb. 23, 2011, before they had seen or inspected the device. Essén is the chairman of

Re: [Vo]:Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement

2011-07-12 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 12:01 PM 7/12/2011, Akira Shirakawa wrote: Hello group, This is straight from New Energy Times. Puzzling news, to say the least: http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2011/07/12/uppsala-university-denies-rossi-research-agreement/ Professors Sven Kullander, retired from Uppsala University, and Han

Re: [Vo]:Uppsala University Denies Rossi Research Agreement

2011-07-12 Thread Daniel Rocha
My wife got this email from AR: Dear Marcia, I never said that we have a contract with the University of Uppsala. Professors of the University of Uppsala made test with our apparatus, but without a contract. It has been a free, indipendent test. We are in contact with the University of Uppsala for

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