[Vo]:Irish times reports on Rossi

2011-02-16 Thread Harry Veeder
Why haven't they invented... cold fusion? http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/bang/2011/0216/1224289927976.html harry

Re: [Vo]:Irish times reports on Rossi

2011-02-16 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Harry: > Why haven't they invented... > cold fusion? > > http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/bang/2011/0216/1224289927976.html H This from the Irish Times. Doesn't another Alternate Energy firm come to mind??? In psychological terms, it's called displacement. The mind is often ver

Re: [Vo]:Where's Dr. Park?

2011-02-16 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Peter ... > As regarding Rossi's bad PR he is just following Pitigrilli's "Do not give > me advices, I can err myself" The lack of a theory is disturbing, his method > of scale-up is strange, but he answers patiently to hundreds of questions of > diverse levels of IQ and good/ill-will. Put

Re: [Vo]:Where's Dr. Park?

2011-02-16 Thread Peter Gluck
Goddess Athena should love him, he needs wisdom and one of his decisive actions will take place in Athena's country. Also with apologies to other atheists including myself. On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 4:46 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson < svj.orionwo...@gmail.com> wrote: > From Peter > > ... > > >

Re: [Vo]:Where's Dr. Park?

2011-02-16 Thread Jed Rothwell
Peter Gluck wrote: As regarding Rossi's bad PR he is just following Pitigrilli's "Do not give me advices, I can err myself" The lack of a theory is disturbing, his method of scale-up is strange, but he answers patiently to hundreds of questions of diverse levels of IQ and good/ill-will. Put yo

RE: [Vo]:BLP Presentation

2011-02-16 Thread George Holz
Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] wrote: Is there a copy of his (Mills) presentation anywhere? >From Harry Veeder several days ago: http://www.blacklightpower.com/new.shtml Dr. Mills will present Thermally Reversible Hydrino Catalyst Systems as a New Power Source

[Vo]:Robert Duncan's address at ICCF-16

2011-02-16 Thread Jed Rothwell
Here is a self-explanatory note to Robert Duncan. He was not able to attend ICCF-16 because of the snowstorms in the U.S. If he sends me a copy of his address, I will post it here. Rob, That was a great address you did not give at ICCF-16. Mike Melich read it aloud from his Ipad. If you would l

Re: [Vo]:Where's Dr. Park?

2011-02-16 Thread Joshua Cude
The difference is, your plan depends on the device working. His may not. On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Peter Gluck wrote: > >> As regarding Rossi's bad PR he is just following Pitigrilli's "Do not give >> me advices, I can err myself" The lack of a theory is disturbing,

[Vo]:February 13th A. Rossi interview from "22passi" blog

2011-02-16 Thread SHIRAKAWA Akira
Hello group, Daniele Passerini from "22passi" blog interviewed again Andrea Rossi on February 13th. This is the original link: http://22passi.blogspot.com/2011/02/energy-catalyzer-facciamo-un-po-di.html And this is an English translation courtesy of PESN, edited by Hank Mills from a Google tr

Re: [Vo]:Where's Dr. Park?

2011-02-16 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 02/16/2011 11:46 AM, Joshua Cude wrote: > The difference is, your [Jed's] plan depends on the device working. > His may not. As I've said before, and as Jed has agreed, the biggest red flag of all is the casual way this is being treated, both by the UoB professors and by Rossi himself. He's

[Vo]:Strange and Quarky connections

2011-02-16 Thread Jones Beene
Many vorticians are familiar with Gilson’s paper on quantum coupling. He looks at the significance of ‘alpha’ when reduced to geometry (topology) which seems to be something that everyone can grasp more easily than the formalism – a spherical polygon of 137 sides. One can imagine a dense cluster

[Vo]:Revised version Celani reports on gamma emission from Rossi device

2011-02-16 Thread Jed Rothwell
Here is a revised version of the message I sent the other day. Villa reported no gamma emissions or other radiation significantly above background from the Rossi device. Celani, however, said that he did detect something. Here are the details he related to me at ICCF16, from my notes, with correct

Re: [Vo]:Where's Dr. Park?

2011-02-16 Thread Jed Rothwell
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: He's acting more like he's invented a nifty new kind of windshield washing fluid which can be produced in 100 gallon lots in a small factory, rather than like he's invented something which could revolutionize everything and which will necessarily be mass produced in ev

Re: [Vo]:Where's Dr. Park?

2011-02-16 Thread Terry Blanton
I don't recall Rossi saying that the would not sell to the military. He simply said that Decathlon Energy would only produce Ecats for non-military applications. The implication to me is that LockMart (or others) might have already signed up for military applications like they did with EEStor. T

Re: [Vo]:Where's Dr. Park?

2011-02-16 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton wrote: I don't recall Rossi saying that the would not sell to the military. I recall he said that a couple of times in his blog. He says lots of things, many of them seemingly contradictory. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:February 13th A. Rossi interview from "22passi" blog

2011-02-16 Thread Horace Heffner
On Feb 16, 2011, at 9:15 AM, SHIRAKAWA Akira wrote: Hello group, Daniele Passerini from "22passi" blog interviewed again Andrea Rossi on February 13th. This is the original link: http://22passi.blogspot.com/2011/02/energy-catalyzer-facciamo-un-po- di.html And this is an English translatio

RE: [Vo]:Where's Dr. Park?

2011-02-16 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Terry Blanton The implication to me is that LockMart (or others) might have already signed up for military applications, like they did with EEStor. BTW - the mention of EEStor, and their unfortunate 'change of focus' brings up two points. 1) As mentioned before,

Re: [Vo]:Where's Dr. Park?

2011-02-16 Thread Terry Blanton
So, the barium cap is both the weapon propellant and the payload. What more could one ask? :-) T

Re: [Vo]:February 13th A. Rossi interview from "22passi" blog

2011-02-16 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Horace Heffner wrote: > Independent evaluation of the commercial viability and utility of an > invention like this is typically made, and could have been made in this > case, by an independent third party, under a nondisclosure agreement (NDA) > before commercia

Re: [Vo]:Economic Reality setting in

2011-02-16 Thread Horace Heffner
On Feb 15, 2011, at 10:33 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: On 02/15/2011 02:22 PM, Horace Heffner wrote: Another interesting quote: "Please, what do you mean, in this case when you say “power density”? If you mean which volume is necessary per kW of power, I can say about 5 liters per kW, jus

Re: [Vo]:February 13th A. Rossi interview from "22passi" blog

2011-02-16 Thread Rich Murray
Hello Terry, I'm still doubtful about the Rossi claims, due to the enormous confusion about the output water-steam flows, and the weak claims about gamma detection. I am not a doctrinaire skeptic, but as a scientific layman serve as a pragmatic skeptic about the simpler aspects of cold fusion res

Re: [Vo]:Revised version Celani reports on gamma emission from Rossi device

2011-02-16 Thread Horace Heffner
On Feb 16, 2011, at 10:48 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Here is a revised version of the message I sent the other day. Villa reported no gamma emissions or other radiation significantly above background from the Rossi device. Celani, however, said that he did detect something. Here are the detai

Re: [Vo]:February 13th A. Rossi interview from "22passi" blog

2011-02-16 Thread Terry Blanton
And that changes what I said how? T On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 7:09 PM, Rich Murray wrote: > Hello Terry, > > I'm still doubtful about the Rossi claims,

Re: [Vo]:Revised version Celani reports on gamma emission from Rossi device

2011-02-16 Thread Jed Rothwell
Horace Heffner wrote: > Set up hot plate and adjust input to 600 W. Watt meters, combined with > integrated kWh metering, can be obtained relatively cheaply. Place a > covered pan on the burner until water boils. The pan lid will be too hot to > touch. The steam can drive a whistle to make

Re: [Vo]:Revised version Celani reports on gamma emission from Rossi device

2011-02-16 Thread Joshua Cude
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > > > >> Now we hear the input power was unstable, fluctuating between 400 and >> 800 W, so was actually probably 600 W. >> > > Actually that is not what the power meter showed in Fig. 5 of the Levi > report. That was Celani's mistaken impres

Re: [Vo]:Revised version Celani reports on gamma emission from Rossi device

2011-02-16 Thread Joshua Cude
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > > Also, the actual flow rate has been questioned. >> > > Questioned by who? For what reason? Lots of people have questioned lots of > things, but there is no rational reason to doubt the flow rate. > > > How about a commercial pump that loo

Re: [Vo]:February 13th A. Rossi interview from "22passi" blog

2011-02-16 Thread Charles HOPE
Murray should apologize to Earthtech for making derogatory comments on Rossi's experiment that were quotes of Cude's criticism? On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 9:11 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > And that changes what I said how? > > T > > On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 7:09 PM, Rich Murray wrote: > > Hello Terr