What do you think the catalyst is at this time?
From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 1:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Another Defkalion statement on PESN
Ever since one of our number “noone noone” posted this
Hallo!
I have discussed on other forum about cold fusion. I have, however
some problems with arguments, because those critics used very powerful
sounding, but probably false argument, that if cold fusion is real,
why it is published on B-rate scientific journals? I tried to explain,
that they are
Not to be missed!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNwOpSHNIQ4
T
I accidentally hit the send button before I was complexly finished composing
the original post.
Let me follow up my take on sam.
As far as I can tell Sam presents no actual evidence in his post as to why
he thinks BLP Mills is a scam operation. What he does state, and this is
quite
This is a reasonable question, from my point of view as a cold fusion
fan, serving as a unqualified scientific layman who has been offering
painstaking, objective reviews of cold fusion papers since December,
1996 -- specializing in looking at all the common sense, nitty gritty
details in the
Better to invite Rossi to make a complete public confession -- then he can
start making the runs of blogs, TV talk shows, lectures, videos, books,
feature movies -- this is a potential bonanza, a ton of fun, while setting a
good example for all humanity -- would add to public interest in and
I like it!
- Jed
OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote:
As far as I can tell Sam presents no actual evidence in his post as
to why he thinks BLP Mills is a scam operation. What he does state,
and this is quite revealing, is that he is upset over the fact that
three of his own science articles posted out
Jouni Valkonen wrote:
In summary, how do I disproof claim that all cold fusion researchers
are crackpotters and all magazines that publish cold fusion are B-rate
or less journals?
If those are the best arguments your opponent can come up with, they
have lost the debate. There is no point to
I think with so much money invested and nothing delivered, no independent
tests whatsoever, it is hard to think this is not a scam. They would easily
have money to test all other theories of LENR and come with something
useful.
From Daniel
I think with so much money invested and nothing delivered,
no independent tests whatsoever, it is hard to think this
is not a scam.
I disagree. There is also some disagreement on the aspect of how one
determines an independent test. BLP would say yes independent
tests have been
Do you really think the scarcity of experimental results justifies the
investment of 60mil$? It is easier to think that they just bribed a few
other researchers just to fake results.
This amount of money is enough to come with a proff of concept for any form
of fusion, even tokamak.
From Daniel
Do you really think the scarcity of experimental results
justifies the investment of 60mil$? It is easier to think
that they just bribed a few other researchers just to fake
results. This amount of money is enough to come with a
proff of concept for any form of fusion, even
Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
Do you really think the scarcity of experimental results justifies the
investment of 60mil$?
You are not privy to the results, so you have no idea whether there is a
scarcity or a plethora of results. You have not read the contract so you
have no idea
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote:
All tokamaks produce some excess energy.
As do skeptics.
T
http://nextbigfuture.com/2011/08/defkalion-claims-they-have-energy.html
_
It is a mystery why nobody seems to be giving DGT (or PDGT) enough credit
for being able to enlist credible scientific expertise, and then to
replicate a 17 year old experiment
I talked about proof of concept, not a working device. Even FP fit in this
description. But BLP didn't show anything that already worked. For example,
look at this tokamak:
http://www.toodlepip.com/tokamak/pictures/tm1.jpg
And it was not even one of the first.
How can you justify 60mil?
Even this:
http://www.generalfusion.com/
Didn't require all those millions and it is a massive device.
At 10:13 PM 8/10/2011, Daniel Rocha wrote:
Alright, so Defkalion has a Kernel for a limited time, while the
catalyzer lasts. And it seems to me that catalyzer is something they
apply to nickel powder. Anyway, since they once they tested a
thousand devices simultaneously and Defkalion is still
I'm asserting that there are defects in the Galantini report, of two kinds.
1. He does not provide data to substantiate what he claims, which
includes specifying exactly what equipment he used. He makes a point
that he measured pressure, but he did not report the result as an
instrumental
In this new Mills patent, you can see where some of the investment capital
went in the blacklight power venture:
http://www.faqs.org/patents/app/20110114075
It looks to me like Mills and associates must have gone through all possible
hydride reactions with every possible transition
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
http://nextbigfuture.com/2011/08/defkalion-claims-they-have-energy.html
This is referencing the PESN article that Fletcher posted yesterday.
By the way, I have been assuming that Galantini was watching the
thermocouple display on the screen, and he took measurements when it hit
100.1°C or above. I do not suppose he used the temperature function in
his instrument. The screen display has 4 digits and I think at least one
is
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 12:44 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
Is Aurora finally out of the closet?
Can it hover?
T
Terry sez:
Can it hover?
Well... no, but it can disappear!
Excerpts:
Update 12:29pET- DARPA says it could not regain contact with HTV2 but
the hypersonic wedge can terminate its flight autonomously.
Update 11:23aET – DARPA has lost contact with the HTV2
So, Mills is trying the same approach as farma companies do, massively
parallel testing substances. But I don't think Rossi's catalyzer is about
substance, but rather in how the lattice of the substance is arranged
spatially.
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
The entire approach to measuring enthalpy is corrupt and fraught with
hazards. You know how to do it right. Rossi deliberately avoided that.
Even assuming you are right and this method does not work, I do not know
of any reason to think Rossi deliberately avoided
Daniel Rocha wrote:
So, Mills is trying the same approach as farma companies do, massively
parallel testing substances. But I don't think Rossi's catalyzer is
about substance, but rather in how the lattice of the substance is
arranged spatially.
These remarkable instruments described at
That's the Rossi's secret sauce!
2011/8/11 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
The SEM alone cannot do the whole job. Even if you know how the lattice is
shaped and what elements and compounds it includes, you still may not know
how to fabricate a similar arrangement.
- Jed
Daniel Rocha wrote:
That's the Rossi's secret sauce!
The SEM alone cannot do the whole job. Even if you know how the
lattice is shaped and what elements and compounds it includes, you
still may not know how to fabricate a similar arrangement.
Right! If he has a secret sauce (a
This is an interesting and detailed animation of the sequence of events that
eventually led to the
failure of the Blow-Out Preventer (BOP) and subsequent flow of crude into the
Gulf... They include
pictures of the actual failed components which provided the clues to piece
together what
If this is true . . . it does not surprise me in the least. Rossi is
mercurial.
See:
http://kanali6.gr/?p=8013
An improved translation is here in the comments section:
http://pesn.com/2011/08/10/9501891_Defkalion_Responds_in_Support_of_Rossi/
QUOTED in its entirety:
The process of
I am going from memory here, but Rossi said early on that the secret
additive is absolutely required to get useful energy out of his core. Using
the nickel powder alone does not produce heat.
The Rossi process is the amalgamation of multiple mechanisms each of which
when taken separately fail
Wow. That is a good video.
What a nightmare.
Fukushima is even worse. I am sorry to say the Japanese government's
response in the early days is now coming to light and it is even more
appalling than originally reported. There were civilians including
children within 10 km of the reactor for
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In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Mon, 1 Aug 2011
There have been several comments here wondering if Defkalion has the
catalyzer powder or whether they have reverse engineer it. For example,
Axil Axil wrote:
Ever since one of our number “noone noone” posted this
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg49026.html
I have been
Ni powder is not the catalyzer. It is something you can buy in specialized
stores online.
On 8/11/2011 3:05 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote:
Ni powder is not the catalyzer. It is something you can buy in
specialized stores online.
When I say Ni powder I mean the catalyzer: the ingredients placed
within the reactor.
I gather it is mostly nickel.
The point is, Defkalion says clearly
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Please read Defkalion's statement carefully:
http://pesn.com/2011/08/10/9501891_Defkalion_Responds_in_Support_of_Rossi/
It says:
Defkalion is preparing all of its labs, the industrial production lines
and support
Terry Blanton wrote:
Defkalion is preparing all of its labs, the industrial production
lines and support systems needed for the Hyperion kW range and MW
range of products as designed, following all Andrea Rossi's specs
on instruments and production machinery, including
At 12:13 PM 8/11/2011, Terry Blanton wrote:
Doesn't mean they don't know the sauce.
I'm with Terry on this one. They've could just have designed the
correct hoppers, feeds, mixers etc etc to add the sauce,
They can do this from a technical specification without knowing the secret.
If and
You can have a great kitchen and collect all the things you need to make bread,
but unless your given instructions, or better still shown how to make bread you
won't be able to make bread.
Harry
From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
At 12:13 PM 8/11/2011, Terry Blanton wrote:
Doesn't mean they don't know the sauce.
I'm with Terry on this one. They've could just have designed the correct
hoppers, feeds, mixers etc etc to add the sauce,
They can do
Very probably the problem is simpler than it seems,
the core is actually a Sphynx without a Secret. The core is nanostructured
Ni (please consider then particle size and nanostructure are two different
characteristics- from a certain manufacturer and certain sortiment. Fora
specialist in Competive
Nano is the key to many anomalies, and the follow numbers tend to support
a surprising conclusion, to wit: Rossi's industrial secret catalyst is NOT
nearly as good as the original .
In 1994 in a series of experiments lasting over a year, but before nickel
nanopowder was available, Thermacore
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Wed, 10 Aug 2011 15:50:06 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
It does not matter if it worked extremely well or moderately well. The
testing was for safety- not performance.
[snip]
Actually it might. If there is a small amount of radioactivity associated with
operation, it
You can get the gist of it just by the hyperlink...
http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-08-controversial-energy-generating-lacking-credibility-video.html
-Mark
FYI:
Inexpensive catalyst that makes hydrogen gas 10 times faster than natural enzyme
http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-08-inexpensive-catalyst-hydrogen-gas-faster.html
Looking to nature for their muse, researchers have used a common protein to
guide the design of a material that can make
Just an FYI:
CERN physicist Dragan Slavkov Hajdukovic has proposed that the illusion of dark
matter may be caused
by the gravitational polarization of the quantum vacuum.
We can consider our universe as a union of two mutually interacting entities,
Hajdukovic said.
The first entity is our
Thanks for this post. I have bet 100 euros that there is no such thing
as dark matter, that has significant effect on rotation curves of
galaxies. Therefore it is specially good to hear such news!
–Jouni
2011/8/12 Mark Iverson markiver...@charter.net:
Just an FYI:
CERN physicist Dragan
Can somebody explain me how,
it is likely a weak interaction involving neutrons, without fusion
could possibly gain energy? And where do these neutrons come from?
It looks like people are more skeptical on the claim 'cold fusion'
than on the claim that 'abra-ca-dabra' can actually do something.
Bastiaan Bergman bastiaan.berg...@gmail.com wrote:
Can somebody explain me how,
it is likely a weak interaction involving neutrons, without fusion
could possibly gain energy? And where do these neutrons come from?
It looks like people are more skeptical on the claim 'cold fusion'
than on the
From: OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
... What tends to happen under these kinds of circumstances where someone
appears to be on a self-righteous kamikaze mission to destroy the reputation
of an individual and his company.
Hmm... Funny thing this question came up as I had been reading the
From Bergman
Can somebody explain me how,
it is likely a weak interaction involving neutrons, without fusion
could possibly gain energy? And where do these neutrons come from?
It looks like people are more skeptical on the claim 'cold fusion'
than on the claim that 'abra-ca-dabra' can
The thing is Widom Larsen theory (which I do not think is valid) does produce
nuclear fusion.
When a proton and electron pretending to be a neutron enter an atom's nucleus
releasing energy and causing transmutations, it is FUSION!!!
The Widom Larsen folks are absolutely out of their minds
Krivit and other worshippers of Widom Larsen theory do not make any sense. The
reaction is not a weak interaction, but a fusion reaction. The neutrons are
supposed to be protons and electrons that become virtual neutrons.
Basically, Widom Larsen worshippers want people to believe if a proton
Inspired by Krivit's nonsense.
Krivit has been out to try and discredit Rossi for a long time. He truly is a
snake.
From: Mark Iverson zeropo...@charter.net
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 6:26 PM
Subject: [Vo]:PhysOrg reports on
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