Re: [Vo]:a new interview with Defkalion

2012-09-01 Thread Eric Walker
Le Aug 31, 2012 à 6:23 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com a écrit : The noble gas reaction that underpins the Papp engine is the most likely reaction that works and the most promising. It must receive priority in future LENR RD funding. Axil, your satire and flame baiting are funny. People

Re: [Vo]:a new interview with Defkalion

2012-09-01 Thread Axil Axil
Dear Eric, Satire and flame baiting is one of the most difficult ambitions for a writer to achieve. The reader almost always assumes that you are serious. It is always wise the say what you mean and mean what you say. But sometimes the opposite happens. When a serious posit is taken as

[Vo]:I admire DGT (was:I admire Mr. Andrea Rossi)

2012-09-01 Thread Jojo Jaro
I admire DGT as much as Peter admires Mr. Andrea Rossi. Why, what is there not to admire about Xanthoulis and DGT. Why, I admire how Xanthoulis clandestinely and illegally obtained Rossi's Catalyst, yet they did not use it. Why, I admire how Xanthoulis and DGT resisted the urge to use Rossi's

Re: [Vo]:I admire DGT (was:I admire Mr. Andrea Rossi)

2012-09-01 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear Jojo, Obviously you would be a good poet, even if this is prose. Have you read Ithaka by Cavafis cited in the Interview? It is an other Peter who admires Rossi, my feelings toward him are very complex. However his role in the history of the field is undeniable important. (see the last

Re: [Vo]:Another View-Understanding of eCat working

2012-09-01 Thread Harry Veeder
There are never enough planck seconds in a day. harry On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 10:19 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: OOps! Rounding error. Planck time =5.4x10^-44s. T

Re: [Vo]:a new interview with Defkalion

2012-09-01 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
We don't know what it is. When we do, maybe resonant fusion? proton absorption? BEC fusion Sent from my iPhone On Aug 31, 2012, at 11:00 PM, Jeff Berkowitz pdx...@gmail.com wrote: It's a question with many nuances. I generally agree with Jed about the realities and the regulatory issues.

Re: [Vo]:a new interview with Defkalion

2012-09-01 Thread Harry Veeder
Apple is probably secretly working on 'ifusion'. Harry On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: We don't know what it is. When we do, maybe resonant fusion? proton absorption? BEC fusion Sent from my iPhone On Aug 31, 2012, at 11:00 PM, Jeff

Re: [Vo]:Interview with Michael McKubre

2012-09-01 Thread Harry Veeder
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 10:13 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: I doubt that an economic or structural panacea exists. Of course not. However, to throw your hands up and say that no economic or structural modifications are worth while is

Re: [Vo]:a new interview with Defkalion

2012-09-01 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jeff Berkowitz pdx...@gmail.com wrote: Yet at the same time, we have an example: the terminology change from NMR to MRI. It was significant from perspective of consumer acceptance, and therefore it was economically significant. If we believe LENR will be incorporated in consumer products,

Re: [Vo]:Rossi said... Domestic certification problem?

2012-09-01 Thread James Bowery
Again, I call upon you who _do_ know what the reaction is to put forth the experiment that will demonstrate it is what they say it is and thereby discount the others who know what the reaction is. You know -- multiple competing hypotheses -- strong inference and all that. On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at

RE: [Vo]:a new interview with Defkalion

2012-09-01 Thread Jones Beene
Jeff Berkowitz wrote: Yet at the same time, we have an example: the terminology change from NMR to MRI. It was significant from perspective of consumer acceptance, and therefore it was economically significant. If we believe LENR will be incorporated in consumer

[Vo]:Bob Park notes Fleischmann's death.

2012-09-01 Thread Harry Veeder
http://bobpark.physics.umd.edu/previous_issue.html 3. MARTIN FLEISCHMANN: DIED AUGUST 3, 2012 AT AGE 85. This is what I wrote in Whats New, 24 March 1989, the day after Cold Fusion was announced. The remarable report from the University of Utah that researchers had achieved deuterium fusion in

Re: [Vo]:Bob Park notes Fleischmann's death.

2012-09-01 Thread Terry Blanton
MF did not live to see it; but, I certainly hope RP does. T

Re: [Vo]:Interview with Michael McKubre

2012-09-01 Thread James Bowery
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 9:13 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: I doubt that an economic or structural panacea exists. Of course not. However, to throw your hands up and say that no economic or structural modifications are worth while is

Re: [Vo]:Rossi said... Domestic certification problem?

2012-09-01 Thread Jed Rothwell
James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: Again, I call upon you who _do_ know what the reaction is to put forth the experiment that will demonstrate it is what they say it is and thereby discount the others who know what the reaction is. Amen. - Jed

[Vo]:Heresy warning: variable isotope decay. Also noted, the ether is(?) involved...

2012-09-01 Thread David L Babcock
An excerpt from Giza Dearth Star, link below: [seen]..in two separate experiments in two different labs. It isn't just solar flares that seem to induce changes in radioactive decay rate. Changes in solar rotation and activity,/and the Earth's position on its orbital path around the

[Vo]:Ni-H is hotter than solar, in the context of time

2012-09-01 Thread Jones Beene
Speaking of fusion: hot, cold, warm, or whatever - there is a misperception. It is worth noting that 99+% of all of the known nuclear reactions throughout the Universe, which occur continuously in stars, are short-lived reactions with no net gain: P+P - 2He - P+P That is the unequivocal

[Vo]:New Energy Times

2012-09-01 Thread Jeff Berkowitz
There is an interesting update on Krivit's site - about the site itself, not about LENR. Jeff

Re: [Vo]:New Energy Times

2012-09-01 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jeff Berkowitz pdx...@gmail.com wrote: There is an interesting update on Krivit's site - about the site itself, not about LENR. Don't be shy! Tell us what it says. Here: http://newenergytimes.com/ QUOTE: Major Site Re-Design and New Subscription Service Launch Sept. 1, 2012 Dear Readers,

Re: [Vo]:Heresy warning: variable isotope decay. Also noted, the ether is(?) involved...

2012-09-01 Thread Axil Axil
I suggest shielding the radioactive source from electromagnetic fields (using a tempest cage), then see if the rates still change or remain the constant. Cheers: Axil On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 3:24 PM, David L Babcock ol...@rochester.rr.comwrote: An excerpt from Giza Dearth Star, link below:

Re: [Vo]:New Energy Times

2012-09-01 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2012-09-01 23:58, Jed Rothwell wrote: Summary: He is going to subscription mode. I think it may be a little early for that. I doubt that people will pay for information on cold fusion. At this point we still have to beg people to read it. I have not seen an upsurge in traffic at

Re: [Vo]:New Energy Times

2012-09-01 Thread Alain Sepeda
note that e-catworld.com too, created a spinoff commercial site, a social network around business LENR note that is is flourishing on linked-in, viadeo... getting serious, despite our stockholm syndrom doubts 2012/9/1 Jeff Berkowitz pdx...@gmail.com There is an interesting update on Krivit's

Re: [Vo]:New Energy Times

2012-09-01 Thread Jed Rothwell
Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote: There has been a significant rise in general (non-technical) interest about LENR however, at least according to Google: http://www.google.com/**insights/search/#q=lenrcmpt=qhttp://www.google.com/insights/search/#q=lenrcmpt=q

Re: [Vo]:New Energy Times

2012-09-01 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
In my view, the point is whether Mr. Krivit can convince potential customers that only his website contains important timely information that could not be obtained from non-subscription websites. If that were not the case why would anyone want to pay a subscription fee for information already

RE: [Vo]:New Energy Times

2012-09-01 Thread Jones Beene
Actually, regardless of how it works out for Steve, this is a good sign, showing maturation of the field. In fact it is a very good sign. I can foresee several hundred corporations, labs, universities, overseas parties, other journalists, governments, military and so forth signing up. They will

Re: [Vo]:New Energy Times

2012-09-01 Thread Jeff Berkowitz
Sorry, didn't know if copying it was the right thing to do, didn't want to paraphrase and get it wrong. He also says: *Reference and Archival Information Will Remain Free *All of our reference information and archives (5,000 documents, images, recordings and news stories) will remain free and

Re: [Vo]:New Energy Times

2012-09-01 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: I can foresee several hundred corporations, labs, universities, overseas parties, other journalists, governments, military and so forth signing up. Honestly, I can't. He does not seem all that credible to me. I do not have it in for him, as some people

Re: [Vo]:Heresy warning: variable isotope decay. Also noted, the ether is(?) involved...

2012-09-01 Thread Jeff Berkowitz
I keep wondering who else might have accumulated data that could be analyzed. I.e. who might have collected data from a long-lived source under consistent conditions over a long enough period of time. Maybe monitoring equipment from cold war era waste sites. Jeff On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 3:04 PM,

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2012-09-01 Thread Axil Axil
The Keshe Energy Generator is a variant of the Papp engine reaction. The site link http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Keshe_Foundation#Theory_in_Short The patent application is as follows open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/geert8550/EP1770715A1.pdf This patent application references the Papp

Re: [Vo]:New Energy Times

2012-09-01 Thread Kelley Trezise
It's good to think that if I decide to blow my brains out there will be an ad for a cheap gun and ammo. - Original Message - From: Jed Rothwell To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2012 3:15 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:New Energy Times Akira Shirakawa

Re: [Vo]:New Energy Times

2012-09-01 Thread Peter Gluck
I think New Energy Times is a publication of high quality, the investigations made by Steve were simply excellent. However if he has no access, prioritary access to primary sources in LENR I doubt he will be able to compete with the free publications that are plenty. Steve's decision to ignore