[Vo]:More leaked (?) info from Defkalion GT

2012-10-22 Thread Akira Shirakawa
Hello group, It appears that the pdf documents with redacted names wasn't the only one which sort of leaked from early uploads put on the official Defkalion GT forums and hastily replaced with different ones. Apparently there was another one, formatted as a presentation and signed by Micheal

Re: [Vo]:Mark Gibbs asks for recommended papers and experiments

2012-10-22 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.worldscientific.com/worldscibooks/10.1142/6425 So, let's buy it for him. I'll contribute. Do we know where to send it? Seriously? No. Two reasons: 1. Forbes has plenty of money. 2. People often do not read books that you buy for them. A

Re: [Vo]:More leaked (?) info from Defkalion GT

2012-10-22 Thread Jed Rothwell
Every page in this document is marked Extremely Confidential. Evidently that does not mean much at Defkalion. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:More leaked (?) info from Defkalion GT

2012-10-22 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2012-10-22 14:14, Akira Shirakawa wrote: The document (I suggest saving a copy in case it gets deleted): http://ecatnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Summary-of-Visit-to-Defkalion.pdf By the way, I think it's important to point out that this document is dated March 2012, while the other

Re: [Vo]:More leaked (?) info from Defkalion GT

2012-10-22 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2012-10-22 14:24, Jed Rothwell wrote: Every page in this document is marked Extremely Confidential. Evidently that does not mean much at Defkalion. I don't get all this confidentiality either. Cheers, S.A.

Re: [Vo]:More leaked (?) info from Defkalion GT

2012-10-22 Thread Peter Gluck
Old stuff, I think it is proof that this technology is very different from Rossi's. Peter On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 3:48 PM, Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.comwrote: On 2012-10-22 14:24, Jed Rothwell wrote: Every page in this document is marked Extremely Confidential. Evidently that

Re: [Vo]:More leaked (?) info from Defkalion GT

2012-10-22 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2012-10-22 14:14, Akira Shirakawa wrote: The document (I suggest saving a copy in case it gets deleted): http://ecatnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Summary-of-Visit-to-Defkalion.pdf Compare the document above with this one:

Re: [Vo]:More leaked (?) info from Defkalion GT

2012-10-22 Thread Alain Sepeda
Professionally I'm devastated to see that... Technically very interesting. not much secret hopefully. Most was in their ICCF17 article. Happy to see Potassium confirmed... Human factor comments are very interesting. tell more than the measures. Too bad it is fruit of the poisonous tree. no

Re: [Vo]:More leaked (?) info from Defkalion GT

2012-10-22 Thread Terry Blanton
Nothing we had not surmised.

Re: [Vo]:(Audio) NASA Chief Scientist on space exploration and LENR

2012-10-22 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2012-10-22 06:29, Patrick Ellul wrote: Thanks for this. If anyone comes across a transcript of the portion where he talks about LENR, it would be very handy. A partial transcription I found on E-CatWorld: “LENR, which we’re working on here, we’ve got 22 years now of experiments on Low

Re: [Vo]:More leaked (?) info from Defkalion GT

2012-10-22 Thread Axil Axil
“John Hadjichristos explained that the amount of time the electron of a polarized H atom is close enough to the nucleus to appear to be a virtual neutron (stage 2) is 1 x 10-17 seconds.” This conjecture is not accurate. The excited hydrogen atom would have a quantum number in the neighborhood of

Re: [Vo]:(Audio) NASA Chief Scientist on space exploration and LENR

2012-10-22 Thread Robert Dorr
It is just amazing, the disparity between the funding of research into Hot Fusion, compared to Cold Fusion. I mean NASA is spending $100 K to $300 K a year on cold fusion research. I'm surprised they even have a room with a beaker and a bunsen burner set up with that kind of money set

Re: [Vo]:More leaked (?) info from Defkalion GT

2012-10-22 Thread David Roberson
I was just looking over the documentation and I saw something that does not make sense. In the step 1 triggering process it is claimed that the separation of diatomic hydrogen into individual atoms is an endothermic process. There is a discussion where it is said that this is done

Re: [Vo]:(Audio) NASA Chief Scientist on space exploration and LENR

2012-10-22 Thread David Roberson
I agree entirely. One must question the intelligence of the people making these decisions. Dave -Original Message- From: Robert Dorr rod...@comcast.net To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, Oct 22, 2012 1:42 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:(Audio) NASA Chief Scientist on space

[Vo]:New paper by Storms and Scanlan

2012-10-22 Thread Jed Rothwell
Storms, E. and B. Scanlan, *Nature of energetic radiation emitted from a metal exposed to H2*. J. Condensed Matter Nucl. Sci., 2012(submitted). http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/StormsEnatureofen.pdf

Re: [Vo]:More leaked (?) info from Defkalion GT

2012-10-22 Thread Axil Axil
A theory that might explain how this excess high energy electron charge forms in response to a spark in a pressurized gas is as follows: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_oscillation Plasma oscillations, also known as Langmuir waves (after Irving Langmuir), are rapid oscillations of the

Re: [Vo]:New paper by Storms and Scanlan

2012-10-22 Thread Jed Rothwell
Ed published this description of the paper at CMNS: I'm making a prepublication copy of a new paper available for your information and comment - sort of a universal peer review.( http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/StormsEnatureofen.pdf) It has been submitted to JCMNS. Unfortunately it is too big for

Re: [Vo]:New paper by Storms and Scanlan

2012-10-22 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2012-10-22 20:44, Jed Rothwell wrote: Storms, E. and B. Scanlan, /Nature of energetic radiation emitted from a metal exposed to H2/. J. Condensed Matter Nucl. Sci., 2012(submitted). http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/StormsEnatureofen.pdf I don't think I have the expertise needed to discuss this

Re: [Vo]:New paper by Storms and Scanlan

2012-10-22 Thread Axil Axil
In the document, the word fusion should be replaced with the word “fission” due to coulomb barrier lowering as a direct consequence of Anderson localization of electrons in and near the lattice discontinuities in the metal. Scale up od the effect can be done using electrostatic amplification

Re: [Vo]:New paper by Storms and Scanlan

2012-10-22 Thread Axil Axil
“Now we only need a foolproof, methodology to reliably and cheaply create these NAE on common metals (such as Ni, Cu). Maybe Francesco Celani has one?” Rossi first invented this when he used tubules to cover nickel micro-powder. Cheers:Axil On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Akira Shirakawa

Re: [Vo]:Testing the Popper

2012-10-22 Thread Michele Comitini
IMHO Russ can go happily without getting in the labview mud. There is very serious stuff for free and free for use and modify. Some popular hits: http://www.scilab.org/ http://www.scicos.org/ https://www.modelica.org/ http://www.scipy.org/ http://pandas.pydata.org/

RE: [Vo]:New paper by Storms and Scanlan

2012-10-22 Thread Jones Beene
There are a couple of troubling things about this paper that stand out on a first read. I hate to sound critical, since in the extreme case (to be explained) this could be a very important paper. Like Forsley before, Ed Storms finds radiation, but unlike Forsley there is little acknowledgement of

RE: [Vo]:New paper by Storms and Scanlan

2012-10-22 Thread Jones Beene
Correction: I sent the preceding out too quickly since on review I see the EDAX of the mica, which somehow shows it is over half carbon when in nature, mica has none. Possibly mica laminated to a film of polycarbonate. It does show 5% potassium. Anyway - this statement says it all - the good

[Vo]:Aliens Favour Romney

2012-10-22 Thread Vorl Bek
It looks like Aliens (interstellar types) favour Romney for President. http://blogs.desmoinesregister.com/dmr/romney-temp/

RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:New paper by Storms and Scanlan

2012-10-22 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Jones, They may be simply measuring photons from the same phase shifted black light plasma from which Mills derived his company name. I remain of the opinion that Storms NAE is relativistic based on Casimir suppression - instead of the normal compression we associate with deep

Re: [Vo]:New paper by Storms and Scanlan

2012-10-22 Thread David Roberson
I found the paper most interesting. It might reveal a valuable tool in detecting LENR activity. I have a question for Ed. Is there some way that you can calibrate the detectors with a known radiation source to obtain similar delayed responses? I am not familiar with the normal behavior of

[Vo]:Storms and Scanlan - Life After Death

2012-10-22 Thread chan.fusion.po...@gmail.com
See: http://www.i-b-r.org/NeutronSynthesisNCA-I.pdf Page 10 The laboratory was evacuated again ... Chan

[Vo]:Hope for Borax?

2012-10-22 Thread Jack Cole
In the following video, Melvin Miles states the following about boron (starting at around 15 mins): If you run it with boron, you already have boron on the surface. You have this B2O3 on the surface. It gets oxidized on the surface, so you already have the blocking oxide right at the beginning

[Vo]:New form or Radiation - the N-Ray saga

2012-10-22 Thread Jones Beene
Curious note from history. About 8 years after the discovery of x-rays by a German, we had the discovery of so-called n-rays by a Frenchman. (n was for Nancy). Curiously, this radiation was said to be generated by polarizing x-rays. More on that later. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N_ray N-rays

Re: [Vo]:New form or Radiation - the N-Ray saga

2012-10-22 Thread Terry Blanton
On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 7:48 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Curious note from history. About 8 years after the discovery of x-rays by a German, we had the discovery of so-called n-rays by a Frenchman. (n was for Nancy). Her name was Magill, and she called herself Lil, But

Re: [Vo]:Hope for Borax?

2012-10-22 Thread James Bowery
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7ZM2z_fVcEfeature=player_detailpage#t=902s On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 6:48 PM, Jack Cole jcol...@gmail.com wrote: In the following video, Melvin Miles states the following about boron (starting at around 15 mins): If you run it with boron, you already have boron

[Vo]:Does p+B11 Explain Both Cold Fusion and Papp's Secret?

2012-10-22 Thread James Bowery
Pyrex is borosilicate glass. Any system using pyrex would involve boron as a potential low level contaminant. Papp claimed that the boron powder that appeared in his cylinder was a reaction *product*. However, no one was ever able to get his engine to work in the absence of his careful

Re: [Vo]:Does p+B11 Explain Both Cold Fusion and Papp's Secret?

2012-10-22 Thread Ron Kita
Greetings Vortex-L Boron and Hydrogen and Boron Hydridesoo extremely toxic. I think that it is poisonous to the touch..reasonably certain. Respectfully, Ron Kita, Chiralex On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 11:51 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: Pyrex is borosilicate glass. Any

Re: [Vo]:Does p+B11 Explain Both Cold Fusion and Papp's Secret?

2012-10-22 Thread James Bowery
p+B11 = 3He4 + energy is called a *nuclear* chemistry equation. There is good reason to believe no boranes will be stable products from the chemistry of these systems. On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Ron Kita chiralex.k...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings Vortex-L Boron and Hydrogen and Boron

[Vo]:interesting paper showing Rydberg states deformed under electric and magnetic fields

2012-10-22 Thread Eric Walker
In a set of slides prepared for NIWeek by John Hadjichristos of Defkalion [1], slide 15 talks about the role of hydrogen in LENR. It suggests that hydrogen is excited into a (non-ionized) Rydberg state. In Rydberg hydrogen, the electron is excited above ground, and I believe such states are