From data I have , and from the news of Celani about his Angel, I think
that it is the end of an Era.
It is sad to see that this colloquium seems so gray haired, but this is a
fact that young researcher are slave of the funding, and that tenure and
indifference to impact factor if a luxury of
Absolutely. That is indeed the likely reason. SiO2 has both pyro- and
thermalelectrical capabilities. On nano scale this could be sufficient to
split the local hydrogen.
Op zondag 23 maart 2014 heeft Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com het
volgende geschreven:
On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 12:42 PM,
Absolutely. That is indeed the likely reason. SiO2 has both pyro- and
thermalelectrical capabilities. On nano scale this could be sufficient to
split the local hydrogen.
Op zondag 23 maart 2014 heeft Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com het
volgende geschreven:
On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 12:42 PM,
great news that Mizuno found an angel.
Time to learn Gospel.
2014-03-24 3:31 GMT+01:00 Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net:
This appears to be the new venture which is sponsoring Dr Mizuno's work
these days...
http://cleanplanet.co.jp/ourTeam.php?lang=en
Apparently Mr Igari presented for
just for those desiring to correct facts
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865599345/25-years-ago-a-dream-caught-fire-2-and-died.html
Having been at the meeting I would be pleased to add an item of clarification.
The input gas was in fact molecular deuterium. An innovation that they made a
big deal of at the meeting was a device placed inside the reactor that allowed
them to monitor the composition of the circulating gas in
Steve, have a look at a paper of Edmund Storms (recently brought under the
attention by Alain via LinkedIn):
http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/StormsEexplaining.pdf
He proposes following processes happening in the reactors of
Rossi/Defkalion (using light Hydrogen):
d+e+d 4H (fast decay) 4He + e
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Apparently Mr Igari presented for Mizuno. He was said to be very impressive
and informed about the details.
That was Mr. Yoshino. Mizuno also presented via Skype.
I heard from Mizuno this morning. I asked him to send me the slides, but he
has not got
From: Steve High
Having been at the meeting I would be pleased to add an item of
clarification. The input gas was in fact molecular deuterium. An innovation
that they made a big deal of at the meeting was a device placed inside the
reactor that allowed them to monitor the composition of the
One further note. According to Steve's report, the device placed in the
reactor allowed them to determine the changing composition of the reactant
gas over time. Thus, it was probably either some kind of spectrometer and
they were looking at emission lines - and even a mass spectrometer, if there
I should have read Jed's post first, and the writeup, which has some nice
images
Apparently the mass spec and quadrupole are outside the experiment, and
could not have been contributory. Apologies for that.
However, this does not rule out polyneutrons. But since the reaction works
with
it seems Mizuno measurement show the inverse reaction
pep reactions seems to make atomic number grows
H.H.H.H-H.D.H-HT-4H~4He
D.D.D.D-D.4H.D~D.4He.D
Mizuno results seems opposite, or maybe an illusion of mass spectrography
It seems a good way to understand what happen, but we should
Yes, Mizuno's work, according to the recent MIT presentation, is shaping up
as a reaction which implies fission of the deuteron, not fusion to higher
mass.
This is called neutron stripping.
It was discovered many years ago and is relatively low energy. We have
discussed it many times in
I interpret Rossi's discussion of the jet engine as referring to a turbine
generator and not an actual aviation application.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, Mar 24, 2014 12:33 am
Subject: RE: [Vo]:More on the
I would have said that Storms process would have seen an increase in atomic 4
mass in the form of 4He. NRL indicated that there was a production of He in
their Pd experiments consistent with Storms proposed process. Storms has long
said on this blog that his theory was reflects the data.
From: Bob Cook
I would have said that Storms process would have seen an increase in atomic
4 mass in the form of 4He. NRL indicated that there was a production of He
in their Pd experiments consistent with Storms proposed process. Storms has
long said on this blog that his theory was
Dave--
I assumed Rossi was refering to a LENR reactor that preheated the normal fuel
of a jet engine, similar to what NASA engineers were saying was being considere
by someone and similar to the design of the 1950's GE design of their J-47 jet
engine/nuclear reactor. Depending upon how much
The decrease of the observed atomic mass of hydrogen by half may simply be
the dissociation of molecular hydrogen into atomic hydrogen over time.
On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 12:30 PM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote:
Dave--
I assumed Rossi was refering to a LENR reactor that preheated
Jones--
I do not think you give Ross AND Focardi enough credit for doing good research.
They just did not talk about it. Rossi's reaction did not just happen by luck
in my estimation. Nevertheless, I agree that the Mizuno work seems to look at
dynamic parameters in attempting to understand
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Apparently the mass spec and quadrupole are outside the experiment, and
could not have been contributory.
When they took those photos I think the mass spec quadrupole were sitting
there, not hooked into the experiment yet. I saw the quadrupole gadget
Jed
They would have to had a magnetic shield around the mass spec to keep the
magnetic field out of the reactor. Keep in mind that the Mass Spectrometer
uses a small sample of a gas and ionized it to create a charged atom that is
captured in the process and is eliminated from the gas
Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote:
What is the quadrupole outside the experiment that you refer to. Is it
part of the mass spectrometer?
Look at the schematic on p. 7 and the photos on p. 8 here:
http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MizunoTposterform.pdf
The schematic shows that you can take
From: Jed Rothwell
I have not seen new slides and I was not there for the lecture, but my
impression is they have now set up the mass spectrometer in a loop, where
the gas passes through the spectrometer into the cell, out again and around
and around.
The main reason that knowing (or
There is a new generation of LENR researchers gaining their sea legs and
building on the work of those who have gone before.
I am speaking about the H Cat experimenters. They are taking a different
path to experimentation, a cooperative path, an open source path, where all
knowledge and
Quadrupole stimulation of nuclei is a long know way to excite nuclei. Is the
quadrupole device part of the experiment?..
Bob
- Original Message -
From: Jones Beene
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 11:19 AM
Subject: RE: [Vo]:More on the Mizuno
Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote:
Quadrupole stimulation of nuclei is a long know way to excite nuclei. Is
the quadrupole device part of the experiment?..
Look at the photos please. It is a box sitting off to the side, connected
to the cell with a pipe. (I assume it is a thin pipe, not
In reply to Bob Cook's message of Sun, 23 Mar 2014 15:19:14 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
Your description is exactly as I understand it. The random walk is not very
long however, since it probably occurs at the first electron it attracts and
that is pretty quick after the nucleus gives it up.
AFAIK
The balls display an excellent example of gyroscopic motion. Rotation about
the axis connecting the balls results in a vector of angular momentum along
that axis. Movement of that axis by rotation of the balls upon the surface
causes a torque to be exerted which raises the connecting axis to
Here are a few of my thoughts after attending all three days of
2014 CF/LENR meeting at MIT.
For Jed; you know I have been following Mizuno's work since ICCF14
and the results are now possibly the most significant of the conference
from a practical point of view.
You would not have had to worry
Cold fusion continues 25 years after announcement
By Ed Yeates
SALT LAKE CITY -- Twenty five years later, despite the skeptics, cold fusion
lingers.
Instead of what critics say was a premature, unsubstantiated, even arrogant
announcement from the University of Utah in 1989, Stanley Pons and
Bob, I agree that he could consider doing exactly what you describe and perhaps
one day that will happen. My response was due to what I read on his blog when
he was answering a question from one of his audience. Unless I misunderstood
him, he appeared to use the term jet engine as a
George Holz geh...@optonline.net wrote:
You would not have had to worry about
gaining weight at this meeting. Sandwiches, chips, cookies and soda in the
hall
outside the new and very comfortable lecture hall with no food allowed
inside.
As Frankenstein's monster explained: Smoke -- good.
http://phys.org/news/2014-03-unidentified-electron.html
*Hunt for an 'unidentified electron objects'*
This article holes promise to reveal some of the detailed quantum
mechanical underpinnings of LENR in the NiH reactor. There is a direct
connection between ultra-low super-fluidic behavior of
Dave--
I read his log about 2x per week. Over the years I have found Rossi to be
sincere and honest.
I suspect he has been in contact with Boeing and the jet engine manufacturers.
I hope it comes to pass with his Hot Cat.
Bob
- Original Message -
From: David Roberson
To:
There are a few efforts that look like they might break out in 2015,
whether it's Rossi or Brullion or Defkalion or whomever.
All of them would need to convert heat to electricity. That means a
Stirling engine, unless you believe the guys at Deuo Dynamics who have a
direct thermoelectric
Bob,
Apparently you are correct about the jet engine effort. I just read the latest
journal entries by Mr. Rossi and must admit that his words suggest what you
believe. Earlier I read posts which seemed to imply what I understood.
It seems odd that they would work toward enhancing a jet
On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 9:31 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
It seems odd that they would work toward enhancing a jet engine instead of
producing the power plant directly. Why carry the jet fuel along if you
can make sufficient power to keep the air craft in the sky for an
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