RE: Fw: New Shoulders Paper

2004-08-19 Thread Keith Nagel
Hi Bill. You need to read the paper in question; Jones is presenting Ken's quote without the necessary context. What Ken is driving at is that the EV contains a substantial amount of like charge in a small volume. The forces being balanced by such a structure would, at least superficially, seem im

Re: New light on LENR

2004-08-19 Thread Horace Heffner
At 4:25 PM 8/19/4, Edmund Storms wrote: >What exactly do you mean by replication? Do I have to make the same >mistakes? Do >I have to use a calorimeter that is affected by a magnetic field? You have to do what you apparently thus far have entirely failed to do. You have to have some approxima

Re: Fw: New Shoulders Paper

2004-08-19 Thread William Beaty
On Wed, 18 Aug 2004, Jones Beene wrote: > billb wrote: > > With one meter of distance, the capacitance between the "lighting > > circuits" is tiny at 1meter separation. Such a charge-flow would cause a > > voltage buildup in the range of millions of megavolts. > > For the calculations involved wit

Re: New light on LENR

2004-08-19 Thread Edmund Storms
Horace Heffner wrote: > At 6:52 AM 8/19/4, Edmund Storms wrote: > >Horace Heffner wrote: > > > >> At 3:23 PM 8/17/4, Jed Rothwell wrote: > >> > >> >As I recall, Ed Storms replicated this and was duly impressed, but not all > >> >that impressed. > >> > >> Ed Storms did *not* replicate Letts' expe

Re: New light on LENR

2004-08-19 Thread Horace Heffner
At 6:52 AM 8/19/4, Edmund Storms wrote: >Horace Heffner wrote: > >> At 3:23 PM 8/17/4, Jed Rothwell wrote: >> >> >As I recall, Ed Storms replicated this and was duly impressed, but not all >> >that impressed. >> >> Ed Storms did *not* replicate Letts' experiment, as I pointed out here on >> vortex

Re: New light on LENR

2004-08-19 Thread Horace Heffner
At 9:56 AM 8/19/4, Jed Rothwell wrote: >Horace Heffner writes: > > > The Letts effect is not merely due to the heat pulse (heating) from a laser. > >That's what I said. On the contrary, 3:23 PM 8/17/4, Jed Rothwell wrote: >I think it has been known for some time that things like >laser light or

RE: Ice to Fire

2004-08-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
Keith Nagel writes: > >So let us wait until whoever > >it is makes his first hundred million TWD (Taiwan New Dollars). > >Maybe we can extort some money out of the fellow, in exchange for > >selectively erasing the archives. > > With all due respect Jed, you really seem not to understand how > the

RE: Ice to Fire

2004-08-19 Thread Keith Nagel
Hi Jed. You write: >That does not seem like a good idea. If someone can profit from the ideas >posted here, that would be a good thing. If the gadget succeeds >commercially, sooner or later someone will uncover the origin of the idea, >and the patent will be rescinded. That might even make the

RE: Ice to Fire

2004-08-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
Regarding the use of cold fusion as a weapon, Martin Fleischmann has expressed concerns about this in the past, but he recently told me he thought the Popular Mechanics cover illustration was "excessive." He said: "There is, of course, a connection between "Cold Fusion" and the National Securit

RE: New light on LENR

2004-08-19 Thread Keith Nagel
Hi Ed. Presumable you mean this paper. http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/StormsEuseofavery.pdf I had a few questions about the Letts work; true to form you addressed them all in the paper. That you saw no resonant peak for laser frequency is a critical observation; given the fractal nature of the

I mixed up science and mechanics

2004-08-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
Oops. I confused the issue here. I said that Popular Science (PS) has made vital contributions to cold fusion in the past. It has, but the recent lurid magazine cover was on Popular Mechanics, not Science. They are similar. I am not sure what Popular Mechanics (PM) has contributed to the field

RE: Ice to Fire

2004-08-19 Thread Keith Nagel
Hi Jones: You write: >I added this silly trailer because, believe it or not, > someone sent me a translation of a Chinese (Taiwan) patent > application which contained text, almost word-for-word, > coming apparently from some previous speculation sent to vortex. This is an incredible claim; if tr

Ice to Fire

2004-08-19 Thread Jones Beene
Can you rationalize how the "cold" in a certain kind of cold fusion experiment can, in effect, become suddenly very, very hot: Hot enough for thermonuclear fusion, in fact?   Let's assume for the moment that a nuclear reaction occurs rarely at a few hundred degrees K in a highly stressed meta

Re: New light on LENR

2004-08-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
Horace Heffner writes: > The Letts effect is not merely due to the heat pulse (heating) from a laser. That's what I said. - Jed

Re: New light on LENR

2004-08-19 Thread Edmund Storms
Horace Heffner wrote: > At 3:23 PM 8/17/4, Jed Rothwell wrote: > > >As I recall, Ed Storms replicated this and was duly impressed, but not all > >that impressed. > > Ed Storms did *not* replicate Letts' experiment, as I pointed out here on > vortex at the time. He oriented his magnetic field im

Re: New light on LENR

2004-08-19 Thread Horace Heffner
At 3:23 PM 8/17/4, Jed Rothwell wrote: >As I recall, Ed Storms replicated this and was duly impressed, but not all >that impressed. Ed Storms did *not* replicate Letts' experiment, as I pointed out here on vortex at the time. He oriented his magnetic field improperly, and thus, as would be expe