Re: Methyl Chloride - Ray Tracing

2005-10-05 Thread OrionWorks
From: Frederick Sparber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ... PLATO - (c 427 - c 347 BC) Plato was a Greek philosopher and one of the most creative and influential thinkers in Western philosophy. Born to an aristocratic family in Athens, he eventually became a disciple of Socrates. The Platonic

RE: Methyl Chloride

2005-10-05 Thread Michael Foster
Keith wrote: Hi Michael, Perhaps you should actually check what the EPA sez about Methyl Chloride? http://www.epa.gov/ttn/atw/hlthef/methylch.html Methinks you've been inhaling too much Vortex of recent, it has a corrosive effect on common sense (grin). K. I have read it. That's when

Re: Islands of Ignorance - and islands of reversed entropy

2005-10-05 Thread Jed Rothwell
thomas malloy wrote: So you maintain that life just happened? You believe that nonliving material just became animated? Yup. I am sure of it. You should not pretend to be surprised that I think so. Most biologists agree, as I am sure you know. Given what you've previously posted, I'm

Re: Oil. Oil, everywhere? Whether goest Cold Fusion?

2005-10-05 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
By the way, thanks very much for the What's New posts. I know I'll risk being run out of the group on a rail by saying this, but while Parks seems to be a pathological skeptic (much like The Amazing Randi) who would find a way to deny it if aliens landed on his own front yard and abducted his

RE: Methyl Chloride

2005-10-05 Thread Keith Nagel
Hi Mike, I'm glad you took some measurements, but I'm confused by your results. If you see no drop off from 1 to 5 miles inland, how do you know the results are coming from the ocean? Another source listed on the EPA site is burning biomass. I recall you've had quite a bit of that in the past

9 votes needed ASAP

2005-10-05 Thread Steven Krivit
Good morning cold fusion fans! I just submitted a summary of my current cold fusion efforts and activities on SCISCOOP. As you may or may not know, stories will only go online if other users vote YES to post them. Won't you be so kind as to help out? http://www.sciscoop.com/ If you are not a

RE: Methyl Chloride

2005-10-05 Thread Michael Foster
Keith wrote: I'm glad you took some measurements, but I'm confused by your results. If you see no drop off from 1 to 5 miles inland, how do you know the results are coming from the ocean? Another source listed on the EPA site is burning biomass. I recall you've had quite a bit of that in

Re: Islands of Ignorance

2005-10-05 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Thomas, I've got a question or two about Ross. thomas malloy wrote: Taking it one step further there is Ross's book Creator and the Cosmos. What's Ross's position on the age of the Earth? I _thought_ he was the young-Earth creationist and hydrologist who had attributed continent formation

Re: 4 votes in, 5 more needed - thanks

2005-10-05 Thread Steven Krivit
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A. C. Clarke plugs space elevators

2005-10-05 Thread Jed Rothwell
More power to him. See: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,1072-1794500,00.html - Jed

Re: Sealed Beam Tungsten-Halogen Headlamp OU Solar Collectors

2005-10-05 Thread Frederick Sparber
Make that 4.0 microamps at 200 microvolts as the filament went from 5.2 ohms cold to ~ 6.5 ohms facing the sun. FJS - Original Message - From: Frederick Sparber To: vortex-l Sent: 10/5/05 10:20:10 AM Subject: Re: Sealed Beam Tungsten-Halogen Headlamp OU Solar Collectors

RE: cloromethane

2005-10-05 Thread Alex Caliostro
From: Alex Caliostro here is the nordic view on CH3Cl which recognizes the source of cloromethane It has been concluded that well over 90%, and perhaps as much as 99%, of ambient air concentrations on a global scale appear to originate from natural sources rather than from anthropogenic

RE: Methyl Chloride

2005-10-05 Thread Frederick Sparber
Keith Nagel wrote: I'm also sure that the burning biomass in your backyard has released a slew of toxic chemicals. Should we revise the numbers to make these levels acceptable because they occur in nature? I do agree that folks are generally paranoid about chemical exposure, but if animal

RE: Methyl Chloride

2005-10-05 Thread Keith Nagel
Hey Mike, So presumably as you go inland, the levels drop off. How fast do they do so? And what numbers did you measure? To be clear, most sources ( including the EPA ) back your claim. Here for example, the evil socialists of Sweden (grin) say... Methyl chloride (CAS No. 74-87-3) is released

Re: Islands of Ignorance

2005-10-05 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
thomas malloy wrote: I posted and Steve Krivit replied Ignorance, eh? How about information science? IMHO, the islands of ignorance map should have the U of Maryland in bright red. Thomas, Why? Because of his antics with CF? [ ... ]Then there is his [Parks'] attacks on my right to

RE: Methyl Chloride

2005-10-05 Thread Zell, Chris
And remember, silica can be dangerous. Good heavens, beaches are full of the stuff. And many fruit seeds contain cyanide. And airplane rides expose you to radiation. And so it goes... -Original Message- From: Keith Nagel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 05,

RE: Methyl Chloride

2005-10-05 Thread Alex Caliostro
From: Zell, Chris And remember, silica can be dangerous. Good heavens, beaches are full of the stuff. not to mention the thousands that die every year breathing dihydrogen oxide _ -alex _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new

RE: Methyl Chloride

2005-10-05 Thread Michael Foster
Keith wrote: So presumably as you go inland, the levels drop off. How fast do they do so? And what numbers did you measure? I never made any inland measurements. I just got a bug up my *** one day when I was taking my boat out and took the chromatagraph with me. I was damn lucky I didn't

RE: Methyl Chloride

2005-10-05 Thread Jed Rothwell
Michael Foster wrote: There are serious toxic substances about that need highly watchful regulation. But you can't do a good job of it if you try to act as if everything is dangerous. Case in point, if you buy sodium chloride from a chemical company, it comes with an MSDS sheet, ditto SiO2.

RE: Methyl Chloride

2005-10-05 Thread Keith Nagel
Hey Mike, I had a similar experience to you when I got a rad counter. I was pretty surprised to find fireplaces had 3-5X background level of radiation, prolly exceeding NRC regs. It was explained to me that trees concentrate airborne radioactive particles from rain, and being heavy they tend to

RE: Methyl Chloride

2005-10-05 Thread Zell, Chris
-Original Message- From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 3:01 PM To: vortex-L@eskimo.com Subject: RE: Methyl Chlori Read the history of the Tokaimura nuclear accident. A friend of mine in Japan who has connections to the nuclear industry says

RE: Methyl Chloride

2005-10-05 Thread John Steck
Supports a half-baked hypothesis of mine regarding the folks on the left and right coasts... The methyl chloride, which penetrates the cranial encapsulant easily, may open the diode junctions to atmospheric attack. 8^) -Original Message- From: Michael Foster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Robert Green steam engine vs Hero's Engine

2005-10-05 Thread John Steck
Could just be how I am looking at it, but aren't these rotary to linear designs? Don't see how it would the other direction (unless the piston axis were at an angle to the rotation shaft). That looks to be the Green patent, bi-axial force tied to a rotating member. -john -Original

US scientists resurrect deadly 1918 flu

2005-10-05 Thread Jed Rothwell
Viral fragments pieced together. Astounding! Shades of Jurassic Park. Ulp! See: http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn8103 - Jed

Off Topic: Not Sure of the Script

2005-10-05 Thread Alex Caliostro
i know tom and richard often post on esoteric issues -- i oft see frank quote from the latin bible i was wonderin if you cant believe scriptsure on what do you base belief Catholic Church no longer swears by truth of the Bible By Ruth Gledhill, Religion Correspondent THE hierarchy of the

DP and Coal. What's The Story?

2005-10-05 Thread Rhong Dhong
Depolymerization supposedly makes oil out of just about anything. How does DP compare in this respect with other methods to process oil shale into oil? Would it be possible to turn out the oil from it much faster and with simpler processing than with corncobs and turkey guts? Hell, the stuff is

Re: Off Topic: Not Sure of the Script

2005-10-05 Thread Harry Veeder
Has a bible ever been published with some sort of disclaimer? Harry Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Alex Caliostro wrote: i know tom and richard often post on esoteric issues -- i oft see frank quote from the latin bible i was wonderin if you cant believe scriptsure on what do you base

Re: space elevator testing

2005-10-05 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Alex Caliostro's message of Tue, 04 Oct 2005 09:55:22 -0600: Hi, [snip] Space Elevator Concept Undergoes “Reel” World Testing By Leonard David Senior Space Writer posted: 23 September 2005 2:33 p.m. ET [snip] This is pointless as long as there are no known materials with sufficient

Re: Off Topic: Not sure of the script

2005-10-05 Thread RC Macaulay
Alex Caliostro wrote: i know tom and richard often post on esoteric issues -- i oft see frank quote from the latin bible i was wonderin if you cant believe scriptsure on what do you base belief Stephen A. Lawrence wrote..This is nothing new. The Catholic Church has never held that the

Re: Off Topic: Not Sure of the Script

2005-10-05 Thread Harry Veeder
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Harry Veeder wrote: Has a bible ever been published with some sort of disclaimer? Dunno, but I think the converse of the question may be equally interesting: Does the Bible say, _anywhere_ in its text, that the entire text is the inerrant word of God?

Re: US scientists resurrect deadly 1918 flu

2005-10-05 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Wed, 05 Oct 2005 16:23:57 -0400: Hi, [snip] Viral fragments pieced together. Astounding! Shades of Jurassic Park. Ulp! See: http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn8103 - Jed I wonder if these are the same scientists that let the mice with black plague