The one oil statistic that really counts is price. As long as the
price of crude keeps going up, we can reasonably assume that oil is growing more
scarce in the real world. I know there are other variables that affect the
oil market on a weekly basis, such as supply disruptions, but as long
On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 16:15:28 -0500, you wrote:
Zell, Chris wrote:
Note the quote advocating universal nimbyism and doing everything
to increase industry costs.
Explain how it would reduce industry costs to build unnecessary
refineries when the total volume of oil can only decrease rapidly in
We haven't had any new nuclear power plants built in many years.
Since any notion of NIMBYism is to be rejected ( despite overwhelming
political
evidence that it is real), the clear answer is THAT URANIUM HAS PEAKED!
The same goes for the rich Cape Cod elitists who don't want wind
turbines
off
Well, that settles it. The voice of God has spoken and settled the
matter for us.
His 2003 study claims that Brazil dropped subsidies because ethanol
production was ineffective. Yet, ethanol has expanded there, along with
ethanol exports
doubling recently.
Apparently, they found ways to become
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Horace Heffner wrote
Wind farms can readily be used to store energy in the form of
liquified air. This capacity, combined with heat storage plus
waste heat from a nearby peak load generating facility, can
dramatically increase the efficiency of that facility,
Zell, Chris wrote:
We haven't had any new nuclear power plants built in many years.
Since any notion of NIMBYism is to be rejected ( despite
overwhelming political evidence that it is real)
Nuclear power plants have been rejected by power companies, not
citizens. Citizens do not like them
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From: John Fields
There are truly _no_ more fish to catch?
If that's true, then there will never be another bite and all the
tilapia will be farm raised.
Tilapia is a fresh water fish from Israel:
http://www.ext.nodak.edu/extpubs/alt-ag/tilapia.htm
-Hole ram
Zell, Chris wrote:
[Pimentel's] 2003 study claims that Brazil dropped subsidies because ethanol
production was ineffective. Yet, ethanol has expanded there, along
with ethanol exports doubling recently.
Yes. As I pointed out last month this industry is built on the backs
of slave labor,
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From: John Coviello
Be it building the massive federal highway infrastructure that provides
oil an automobile market . . .
One often overlooked reason for building the interstate highway system
was national defense so we could rapidly move men and material
At 10:24 AM 2/3/2006, you wrote:
Zell, Chris wrote:
We haven't had any new nuclear power plants built in many years.
Since any notion of NIMBYism is to be rejected ( despite
overwhelming political evidence that it is real)
Nuclear power plants have been rejected by power companies,
Vorts, FYI,
There's a thoughtful lengthy Business Week article by Michael Mandel, with Steve Hamm in New York and Christopher J. Farrell in St. Paul, Minn. It concerns how we measure the health of our nation's economy at:
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/06_07/b3971001.htm
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From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 10:38 AM
To: vortex-L@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: Do we have peak uranium, too?
At 10:24 AM 2/3/2006, you wrote:
Zell, Chris wrote:
We haven't had any new nuclear power plants built in
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From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 10:32 AM
To: vortex-L@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: Message from D. Pimentel
. This comment is petulant and sophomoric. You should read his papers
carefully and then if you find a technical
John Coviello wrote:
Interesting, but doesn't an average nuke plant put out about 1,000
MW? The ones in my part of the country put out 1,000 MW.
I have adjusted the numbers in order to compare apples to apples.
I believe the average US nuclear reactor is 980 MW nameplate. (I
cannot find
On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 10:25:48 -0500, you wrote:
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From: John Fields
There are truly _no_ more fish to catch?
If that's true, then there will never be another bite and all the
tilapia will be farm raised.
Tilapia is a fresh water fish from Israel:
Zell, Chris wrote:
As for Brazil and the rest - so now ethanol is a human rights issue?
You're getting desperate.
Not me; the peasants and children of Brazil are desperate. This has
been a human rights issue from the beginning. See:
http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_food.html
(I
I appreciate your thinking about the multiple motivations here, of which
NIMByism plays a major part.
My experience with all executives is that they usually suffer from a
great deal of isolated thinking, encouraged by the limited vision of
people
around them.
Besides the destructive effects of
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
I think that's a little severe.
There are truly _no_ more fish to catch?
Of course there are still some fish left to catch. However, world
catches have declined precipitously and are still declining, world
fish populations are declining . . .
Right. Plus there
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From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 11:48 AM
To: vortex-L@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: Message from D. Pimentel
Zell, Chris wrote:
As for Brazil and the rest - so now ethanol is a human rights issue?
You're getting desperate.
Jed Rothwell wrote:
Nuclear power plants have been rejected by power companies, not
citizens.
The expectation of a continually rising demand for electricity made
investment in nuclear power plants back in the '60s and '70s a good idea.
When the demand for electricity unexpectedly levelled
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From: John Fields
Then there's still hope???
Certainly for us pollyannas! But neither a pollyanna nor a pessimistic
cassandra be.
We are an adaptable species. We made it through Y2K. g
The fact that we are addressing the energy issue is encouraging to me.
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From: Harry Veeder
Jed Rothwell wrote:
Nuclear power plants have been rejected by power companies, not
citizens.
The expectation of a continually rising demand for electricity made
investment in nuclear power plants back in the '60s and '70s a good
idea.
When
Zell, Chris wrote:
I think US farmers can handle this without a return to slavery.
Absolutely! They do this by replacing human labor with machinery,
energy intense production methods, fertilizer and pesticides. That is
why U.S. agriculture is the most efficient in the world, measured in
Thomas,
One of the things that surprises me about you is how exceedingly diplomatic you are. You tell me that you will take my previous "advice, very seriously." Such flattery.
> You are one of the few who seems to want to limit
> my story to some chemical imbalance.
Perhaps to your face. Let
From: Thomas Clark
...
> But what does it matter in any case, whether I go
> to another planet with a reincarnation of Hitler
> or someone else. Other than I thought that a
> reincarnation of Hitler wanted to get the good
> karma by working with me so I offered it, since
> Hitler is often
On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 14:42:25 -0500, you wrote:
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From: John Fields
Then there's still hope???
Certainly for us pollyannas! But neither a pollyanna nor a pessimistic
cassandra be.
We are an adaptable species. We made it through Y2K. g
The fact that we are
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
Remember the Laffer curve debates, years back? At 0% income tax the
government's net tax revenue is zero. At 100% income tax nobody works
for taxable dollars and again the government's tax take is zero. So,
the _maximum_ tax take is achieved at some tax rate L,
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From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 3:21 PM
To: vortex-L@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: Message from D. Pimentel
Zell, Chris wrote:
I think US farmers can handle this without a return to slavery.
Absolutely! They do this by
Zell, Chris wrote:
All that matters is the price per BTU, without subsidy for either
gasoline or ethanol.
Ah. Well, if we apply that standard the ethanol industry will
disappear overnight. It is heavily subsidized directly and
indirectly. That is say, farmers are subsidized for growing
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From: John Fields
And if the rest of civilization crumbles about you and you know how
to survive by riding camels and sleeping in tents, that's a bad
thing?
grin
Only if you prefer an airconditoned Mercedes!
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New Orleans 'risks extinction'
By Helen Lambourne
Researcher, BBC Horizon
Residents brave the floodwaters in the Lower Ninth Ward, New Orleans.
In the chaos that followed the worst natural disaster in American
history, a forensic
Taste it?not half bad, according to Apollo 16 astronaut John Young.
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2006/30jan_smellofmoondust.htm
http://tinyurl.com/cfyrg
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Nobody has the kind of money it would take to restore NOLA.
Only a 1/3 of the area of the city can be adequately protected from floods
. The city continues to sink so the 1/3 is up for grabs over the next 50
years. The evacuees that have moved and found jobs can't afford to go back
to nothing
In an attempt to account for the powerful ambient gravimagnetic field
required to sustain precession of the equinoxes, the gravimagnetic
influences of the sun and moon are now estimated in:
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/SolarLunarGK.pdf.
Summary of Results
Gravimagnetic field field
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Date: 2/3/2006 9:08:46 PM
Subject: [BOBPARKS-WHATSNEW] What's New Friday February 3, 2006
WHAT'S NEW Robert L. Park Friday, 03 Feb 06 Washington, DC
1. STATE OF THE UNION: THE AMERICAN COMPETITIVENESS
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From: Horace Heffner
We may have a dark partner in our part of the galaxy.
I would be willing to bet that the partner will probably be our
progenitor system - the one that spawned the solar system.
We have several such massive object candidates in our arm of
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