Fwd: [Beta-atmosphere_group] Another bounced Vortex message

2006-03-03 Thread Terry Blanton
Vorts, This is an important message and I am forwarding it to Vortex in hopes that it will make it past the Carnivore filter this time. g I have also blind copied the inventor because it advances a theory which validates his design. It is, however, necessary to follow the rantings of the

Re: Cow Poop to Miles Per Gallon

2006-03-03 Thread Frederick Sparber
Kilowatts per Kilo? Japanese Make Gasoline From Cattle Dung By KOZO MIZOGUCHI (Associated Press Writer) From Associated PressMarch 03, 2006 7:57 AM EST TOKYO - Scientists in energy-poor Japan said Friday they have found a new source of gasoline - cattle dung. Sakae Shibusawa, an agriculture

Re: Cow Poop to Miles Per Gallon

2006-03-03 Thread RC Macaulay
Howdy Fred, I've heard the smell of C**S*** called a lot of things in Texas, but Vanillin?? WalMart sell a 40 lb bag of cow manure for .97 cents and our Texas Legislature passes out BS for free. Where is the enonomic sense ? Richard - Original Message - From: Frederick

Re: Cow Poop to Miles Per Gallon

2006-03-03 Thread Frederick Sparber
True, Richard. In a phone conversation with Pete Domenici years ago we discussed how much energy the BS around Washington could produce. Makes economic sense if you have the right Cattle List, No? Sham-Poop Facials for the ladies? Fred - Original Message - From: RC Macaulay

Time to Ante Up

2006-03-03 Thread hohlrauml6d
I think Bill has a way to donate with a credit card through Amazon: * WELCOME TO VORTEX-L * WARNING: AT LEAST READ

RE: Cow Poop to Miles Per Gallon

2006-03-03 Thread Zell, Chris
I'm sorry, I don't want any sham poo I want the real poo. From: Frederick Sparber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 9:26 AMTo: vortex-l@eskimo.comSubject: Re: Cow Poop to Miles Per Gallon True, Richard. In a phone conversation with Pete Domenici years ago we

Re: Cow Poop to Miles Per Gallon

2006-03-03 Thread Frederick Sparber
Free Trade potential here? Japanese Make Gasoline From Cattle Dung Really not new Applied Dung Chemistry (ADC). Even Pliny the Elder (23-79 AD) was scooped 9so to speak)by earlier work at the Temple of Ammon, where camel dung was roasted with table salt to produce Sal Ammoniac: Still used

Re: Stirring Syrup

2006-03-03 Thread Colin Quinney
Hi Terry, Stirring Syrup. Yes, a *very* interesting analogy, and thanks for that :) I assume you are referring to the Aspden Effect.. here.. http://www.aspden.org/papers/bib/1995f.htm and here.. http://web.archive.org/web/20040604052749/http://www.energyscience.co.uk/le/Le30/le30.html

Speaking of that SMOT fellow . . .

2006-03-03 Thread hohlrauml6d
Look what our dear Mr. Watson is into these days: http://www.greenandgoldenergy.com.au/ A Fresnel focused solar collector. Terry ___ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List

Re: Takahashi Motor

2006-03-03 Thread thomas malloy
I posted, ant Terry replied [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Takahashi/Kawai operates with the mags in opposition. This damages the magnetic spin alignments. Sprain operates in attraction which can only enforce the alignments. You really need to study your aether theory. g -Original

Re: Takahashi Motor

2006-03-03 Thread hohlrauml6d
-Original Message- From: thomas malloy If I see conclusive proof of energy production, either charge a battery while the motor runs the generator, or the output of the generator heats water, then I'll take this seriously. If a permenant magnet involved, I'll want to see it work for

Re: Cow Poop to Miles Per Gallon

2006-03-03 Thread Frederick Sparber
Thanks to the collaborative efforts of Joseph Hamrick (a retired NACA/NASA engineer) heading up Aerospace Research Corp in Roanoke, Virginia in the 70s-80s and early 90s: Three to Five Megawatt externally-fired gas turbines proven capable of burning cow dung have been generating on-line power

Re: Stirring Syrup

2006-03-03 Thread hohlrauml6d
-Original Message-  From: Colin Quinney    Stirring Syrup. Yes, a *very* interesting analogy, and thanks for that :)         It has to be a Beta-atm or aether viscosity change because, when you do the Aspden re-start, regardless of which way it first turned, it takes less energy on

Re: Magnetic Force Calculator

2006-03-03 Thread hohlrauml6d
-Original Message- From: hohlrauml6d http://tinyurl.com/eu6p5    Has a neat force calculator. It shows an interesting relationship if you pick a geometry and vary the size:  As my forensic engineer friend has pointed out, this calculator shows an even more interesting

Check out QVac Engineering

2006-03-03 Thread OrionWorks
Vorts, There's been a potentially interesting development over at the Yahoo Hydrino discussion group. A new individual named Mark Porringa, PEng, has just introduced himself. He has introduced a new atomic theory that appears to seriously challenge Standard Quantum Mechanics. Mark's theory places

RE: Time to Ante Up

2006-03-03 Thread John Steck
That would be helpful... Even Pal-Pal would be Ok. Don't like sending checks in the mail anymore. Too much identity theft going on before it gets to where it's supposed to go. 8( -john -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006

Re: Fwd: [Beta-atmosphere_group] Another bounced Vortex message

2006-03-03 Thread Grimer
At 05:45 am 03/03/2006 -0800, you wrote: Vorts, This is an important message and I am forwarding it to Vortex in hopes that it will make it past the Carnivore filter this time. g Thanks for that Terry. I notice it's got there twice. Once more and I would be able to echo the Bellman:

Re: Time to Ante Up

2006-03-03 Thread Grimer
At 09:33 am 03/03/2006 -0500, you wrote: I think Bill has a way to donate with a credit card through Amazon: I did this when it was first suggested since I have an Amazon account which is very easy to use. Can someone remind me of how it's done cos I can't for the life of me remember - and

Re: Magnetic Force Calculator

2006-03-03 Thread Grimer
At 12:23 pm 03/03/2006 -0500, Terry wrote: -Original Message- From: hohlrauml6d http://tinyurl.com/eu6p5    Has a neat force calculator. It shows an interesting relationship if you pick a geometry and vary the size:  As my forensic engineer friend has pointed out, this

Re: Stirring Syrup

2006-03-03 Thread Colin Quinney
Not too many folks are aware of the Aspden effect. Anyway, thanks again. The effect was "troubling" me in the sense that I did not intuit why "both" directions worked, until you posted. Your analogyallows me to feel the Aspdeneffect from aperspective that'snow fitting.That re-start

FW: [BOBPARKS-WHATSNEW] What's New Friday March 3, 2006

2006-03-03 Thread
Forward from [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Akira Kawasaki) [Original Message] From: What's New [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 3/3/2006 9:21:03 PM Subject: [BOBPARKS-WHATSNEW] What's New Friday March 3, 2006 WHAT'S NEW Robert L. Park Friday, 3 Mar 06 Washington, DC 1.

Re: Stirring Syrup

2006-03-03 Thread hohlrauml6d
-Original Message- From: Colin Quinney snip If these forces can be modelled in any way as gravito-magnetic forces, then I strongly suspect that they are many orders of magnitude beyond what current theory predicts. Something is therefore fishy. I wonder if Beta-atm can explain both

Toroidal electron

2006-03-03 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
Hi, If the Bohr radius electron is a toroid with the Bohr radius as the major radius, and the classical electron radius as the minor radius, then with both rotational velocities equal at alpha x c we get two rotational frequencies, one with the minor radius, and one with the major radius. For

Re: Toroidal electron

2006-03-03 Thread Jones Beene
Robin Multiplying each of these frequencies by Planck's constant yields equivalent photon energies. The first works out to 27.2 eV (Mills' energy hole), and the second works out to 511 keV, which is the mass/energy of the electron. Didn't Hartree work all of this out long before R. Mills

Re: Stirring Syrup

2006-03-03 Thread Jones Beene
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remarkably, our intuitive sense of mass coupling to aether is backward, or inside out as Frank prefers. Help me out here Jones, remember the wood flywheel we discussed in Frank's group? It's the low density matter which affected the