Re: UK's MAGPIE Sandia,s Z Pinch, Electronium-(*e-) Annihilators?

2006-03-10 Thread Frederick Sparber
The 2Billion K "Over Unity" x-rays that Sandia's machine recently generated correspond to 172 KeV. Annihilation of the elusive (*e-) or (e- e+ e-) Electronium or Ps- entity that could be in the electron cloud or in a neutron of the steel (Carbon Iron) might occur under the Z Pinch conditions.

Re: Farrell responds to Pimentel regarding ethanol

2006-03-10 Thread Horace Heffner
On Mar 9, 2006, at 12:19 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: See: http://rael.berkeley.edu/EBAMM/ERG-NPR-letter-1-30-06.pdf Farrell agrees with Pimentel that ethanol takes a lot of input energy -- although he does not specify how much in this letter. He says that Pimentel was wrong and that the

Re: UK's MAGPIE Sandia,s Z Pinch, Electronium-(*e-) Annihilators?

2006-03-10 Thread Frederick Sparber
OTOH, this one always threw me. Did I start out with some wrong values? :-) Fred "Three people check into a hotel. They pay £30 to the manager and go to their room. The manager suddenly remembers that the room rate is £25 and gives £5 to the bellboy to return to the people. On the way to

Re: Farrell responds to Pimentel regarding ethanol

2006-03-10 Thread Michel Jullian
Hi Horace I can see two ways to do without nitrogen fertilizers: - seaweed biomass as I suggested in an earlier post. - use vegetals which feed directly on ambient air's nitrogen, I know there are some, they may not be edible but they might be perfectly suitable for biomass production. Michel

Re: Farrell responds to Pimentel regarding ethanol

2006-03-10 Thread Frederick Sparber
Crop rotation fixes the nitrogen energy problem. Using hybrid seed I had no problem getting 120 bushel/acre corn planted on land that grew soybeans the year before. I doubt the Amish in that northwester Pennsylvania area now, don't sweat it either.

Re: Farrell responds to Pimentel regarding ethanol

2006-03-10 Thread Michel Jullian
Hi Fred (your reply-to pb isn't fixed BTW) Thanks for the very documented enlightenment on air nitrogen fixing plants (legumes), would there be a problem in using them directly as biofuel convertible biomass do you think? Michel - Original Message - From: Frederick Sparber [EMAIL

Re: Farrell responds to Pimentel regarding ethanol

2006-03-10 Thread Frederick Sparber
Michel Jullian writes: Hi Fred (your reply-to pb isn't fixed BTW) Thanks for the very documented enlightenment on air nitrogen fixing plants (legumes), would there be a problem in using them directly as biofuel convertible biomass do you think? You're welcome. Soydiesel from soybean

Re: Electrostatic Hover Cars

2006-03-10 Thread hohlrauml6d
-Original Message- From: ThomasClark123 I read many of the posts but I missed the above. I also speed read, so that sometimes I miss much. Then fnord what's the point of reading? Terry ___ Try the New Netscape Mail Today!

Re: Farrell responds to Pimentel regarding ethanol

2006-03-10 Thread hohlrauml6d
-Original Message- From: Horace Heffner   Looking at Farrel's original article, I don't see any mention of the energy required for soil restoration. Wasn't it George Washington Carver that showed that certain tubers actually restored nitrogen? Peanuts! Terry

Re: Farrell responds to Pimentel regarding ethanol

2006-03-10 Thread hohlrauml6d
-Original Message- From: Michel Jullian Thanks for the very documented enlightenment on air nitrogen fixing plants (legumes), would there be a problem in using them directly as biofuel convertible biomass do you think?  I guess I should read all the messages before posting.

Re: Farrell responds to Pimentel regarding ethanol

2006-03-10 Thread Michel Jullian
Again thanks for the teaching Fred, I had no idea it was the case! The only biofuels that are ever mentioned here in France are Colza oil and ethanol. Then nitrogen fertilizing is indeed a moot point wrt biofuel such as soydiesel, or what am I missing again in my presomptuous reinventing of

Re: CMNS: Electric power measurement suggestion

2006-03-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
Michel Jullian wrote: Power meter: my opinion is that even the most expensive power meter cannot accurately measure electric power delivered directly to a CF cell's electrodes when arcing or even microdischarges occur in the cell . . . I do not know the technical details, but Yokogawa's

Re: Farrell responds to Pimentel regarding ethanol

2006-03-10 Thread hohlrauml6d
-Original Message- From: Frederick Sparber Soydiesel from soybean crops is a hot item these days, Michel. My first wife was from Indiana. Interesting agriculture there. On even years, corn is planted on the right and soybean on the left. Odd years, vice versa. Terry

Ethanol breakthrough

2006-03-10 Thread Zell, Chris
See: www.techbriefs.com/techsearch/tow/ethanol.html Produces profitable ethanol and silica from waste plant material. Market already exists for rice growers to use device, to profit from present waste.

Coincidental?

2006-03-10 Thread Jones Beene
Were you wondering what the Prez meant by a couple of vague references to new energy technology in recent speeches? Over the years, many observers of BLP have noted and commented on the successful Thermacore experiment, and the possibility of a lost opportunity having been there for some kind

A weather expert speaks

2006-03-10 Thread thomas malloy
I listened to this man being interviewed on C to C AM a few days ago. Roy Soencer was a NASA weather expert. Now he is a NAS contrater. He argues that the models for predicting how the weather works, don't work very well. and they only apply to the bottom 10 KM of the atmosphere. The

Viktor Schauberger's UFO

2006-03-10 Thread hohlrauml6d
There's vids of this Coanda effect model: http://jlnlabs.imars.com/gfsuav/ Terry ___ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com

Re: MRO due to arrive Mars Shortly

2006-03-10 Thread Michel Jullian
I am afraid so Fred :) - Original Message - From: Frederick Sparber [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 8:11 PM Subject: Re: MRO due to arrive Mars Shortly http://marsprogram.jpl.nasa.gov/mro/ Mar 10: Live Mars Orbit Insertion Coverage

Another Magmo

2006-03-10 Thread hohlrauml6d
This one looks like it is in the licensing stage: http://www.rematinc.com/countdown.html by http://www.gmcholdings.com/ Terry ___ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List

Re: Farrell responds to Pimentel regarding ethanol

2006-03-10 Thread Michel Jullian
Good point Horace. - Original Message - From: Horace Heffner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 8:21 PM Subject: Re: Farrell responds to Pimentel regarding ethanol On Mar 10, 2006, at 4:57 AM, Michel Jullian wrote: Again thanks for the teaching

OT: Science Friday Writing Lesson

2006-03-10 Thread Jones Beene
This extended-smiley originally came from solving the NYT Sunday x-word puzzle (just got around to that today, 14 minutes - new record) but its humor, now enhanced, is worth sharing with those who need a few tips from the recognized professional expert on such things as anti-semantics g 1) Split

Attractive Energy Sources

2006-03-10 Thread hohlrauml6d
This article: http://www.zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlethold=-1mode= flatorder=0sid=1464 http://tinyurl.com/ogty2 says Mark Goldes has a 1kW unit in production: One of MPI?s solid-state Proof-of-Concept (POC) devices has opened a path to early production of 1,000 Watt

Hydrogen from electrolysis versus gasoline

2006-03-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: Nuclear energy has heretofore been the most likely way, and GE is in on that avenue also. Splitting water using electricity from energy sources such as wind, solar, OTEC, waves or tidal flow is too expensive to be practical. It would not be expensive according to my

Re: Attractive Energy Sources

2006-03-10 Thread hohlrauml6d
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 16:11:12 -0500 Subject: Attractive Energy Sources This article:    http://www.zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlethold=-1mode=   flatorder=0sid=1464    http://tinyurl.com/ogty2    says

NEW ENERGY TIMES (tm) MARCH 10, 2006 -- Issue #15

2006-03-10 Thread Steven Krivit
Your best source for cold fusion news and information. March 10, 2006 -- Issue #15 ISSUE #15 is available online at http://newenergytimes.com/news/NET15.htm EDITORIALS AND OPINION 1. From the Editor 2. To the Editor NEWS ANNOUNCEMENTS 3. U.S. Cold Fusion Session at APS Conference 4.

Re: Hydrogen from electrolysis versus gasoline

2006-03-10 Thread Jones Beene
- Original Message - From: Jed Rothwell It would not be expensive according to my calculations -- see below. The energy cost works out to ~$3.39 per gallon of gasline equivalent. Perhaps the cost of capital equipment would add significantly to that. Indeed it would add a

Re: Farrell responds to Pimentel regarding ethanol

2006-03-10 Thread Frederick Sparber
Horace Heffner wrote The problem with regard to nitrogen fixation and other soil depletion is the not that it *can* be circumvented by judicious management, but rather what *may* actually happen and what is actually proposed to happen. For example, elephant grass is touted as the

Re: Another Magmo

2006-03-10 Thread Nick Palmer
Looks more like a pump and dump operation for their GMCC shares. They claim they are negotiating with Fortune 500 companies to sell them the rights to this technology for between $300-500 million dollars, of which they say they will give 96% to their shareholders when the sale goes through...

Re: Another Magmo

2006-03-10 Thread hohlrauml6d
-Original Message- From: Nick Palmer Looks more like a pump and dump operation for their GMCC shares. They claim they are negotiating with Fortune 500 companies to sell them the rights to this technology for between $300-500 million dollars, of which they say they will give 96% to

Re: Hydrogen from electrolysis versus gasoline

2006-03-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: It would not be expensive according to my calculations -- see below. The energy cost works out to ~$3.39 per gallon of gasline equivalent. Perhaps the cost of capital equipment would add significantly to that. Indeed it would add a significant amount. That is exactly why

Re: NEW ENERGY TIMES (tm) MARCH 10, 2006 -- Issue #15

2006-03-10 Thread Jones Beene
Steve, Great job. I took the liberty of sending the following post to the hydrino group: Subj:Sonofusion Fraud Possibility ar Purdue - NOT An excellent background article on this current situation, which is relevant to Mills/BLP and the sad state of Science Journalism in "Nature"

FW: [BOBPARKS-WHATSNEW] What's New Friday March 10, 2006

2006-03-10 Thread
Foward from [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Akira Kawasaki) [Original Message] From: What's New [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 3/10/2006 9:49:55 PM Subject: [BOBPARKS-WHATSNEW] What's New Friday March 10, 2006 WHAT'S NEW Robert L. ParkFriday, 10 Mar 06 Washington, DC 1. BUBBLE

My take on the Taleyarkhan affair

2006-03-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
I have been Taleyarkhan with Yeong Kim, who is also a professor at Purdue, and with Ed Storms. Kim told me: [Taleyarkhan] believes his bubble fusion is a hot fusion. After he found out that I have been working on cold fusion and told him that what he is doing is cold fusion and not a hot

Re: My take on the Taleyarkhan affair

2006-03-10 Thread Philip Winestone
Jed - A very well-put assessment of the situation... It is now officially misconduct to do experiments that challenge textbook theory. Theoreticians have appointed themselves the high priests of science, and an experimentalist who does anything to upset them is not merely mistaken or foolish, as

Re: My take on the Taleyarkhan affair

2006-03-10 Thread Jones Beene
- Original Message - From: Jed Rothwell As to the technical question, is this some form of cold fusion, Kim suspects it might be and I gather so does McKubre. Storms disagrees. He thinks there is no connection between the Taleyarkhan effect and cold fusion. I cannot judge, but anyone

Re: My take on the Taleyarkhan affair

2006-03-10 Thread Harry Veeder
Jed Rothwell wrote: Perhaps, as Schwinger predicted, this will be the death of science. Science is at a low point, and no one can say when, or if, it will recover. But I expect it will. Valuable, vital institutions seldom collapse completely. Usually after they reach an dysfunctional

Re: My take on the Taleyarkhan affair

2006-03-10 Thread hohlrauml6d
-Original Message- From: Jones Beene Once again - we should not fall into the logical trap of either/or - even if we must resort to a whole new category of fusion - and yes - there are many who have been suggesting for a long time that we have this third category, which includes the