Re: [Vo]:NOVA show on Absolute Zero watch it on the web

2008-01-17 Thread FZNIDARSIC
The same way electrons do.  through spin  coupling.



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Re: [Vo]:OT: It's a Bird. It's a Plane. It's Boredom

2008-01-17 Thread Terry Blanton
Then there was San Diego on New Years:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=MAox0pcZZxo

Terry

On Jan 17, 2008 8:46 AM, leaking pen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So, wait, the one seen in phoenix by several THOUSANDS of people, with video
 that showed it was not a plane or planes, that our SENATOR John McCain said
 he saw , and knew it was not a plane...its small town boredom.  yeah.



 On Jan 17, 2008 6:36 AM, OrionWorks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Once again, Foxnews.com shows it's intellectual prowess for
  entertainment with the following commentary regarding the recent UFO
  flap that happened in Texas.
 
  http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,323135,00.html
  http://tinyurl.com/2bvszp
 
  TITLE: It's a Bird. It's a Plane. It's Boredom
  By Greg Gutfield.
 
  
  So in Stephenville, Texas, a dozen or so people reported seeing a
  large object with bright lights flying low and fast in their
  neighborhood. They called it a UFO, although I might call it a
  plane.
 
  See, I've always felt that there are two kinds of people in this
  world: Those who see UFOS and the rest of us.
 
  The fact of the matter is no one ever sees alien spacecraft in big
  cities or places where there's a decent Wal-Mart. Sightings of strange
  flying objects only occur in small towns, where there is little else
  to do but hope and pray for an anal probing. This is not an insult.
 
  Small towns are great because it's quiet and the beer is cheap — two
  factors that allow for wishful thinking. See, to me UFOs are the small
  city version of big city recycling. I mean, I'm sure recycling exists,
  but I've never seen it. Seems like it all goes into one bin.
 
  It's not that I don't believe in UFOs, it's just that I don't need the
  unknown to complicate matters. I see things outside my apartment that
  are all too real and disgusting — and sometimes they fly. They aren't
  UFOs. They're pigeons. And they can't even work a probe — sadly.
 
  And if you disagree with me, then you sir are worse than Hitler.
 
  Greg Gutfeld hosts Red Eye with Greg Gutfeld weekdays at 2 a.m. ET.
  Send your comments to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
 
  Regards
  Steven Vincent Johnson
  www.OrionWorks.com
  www.zazzle.com/orionworks
 
 



 --
 That which yields isn't always weak.



[Vo]:OT: It's a Bird. It's a Plane. It's Boredom

2008-01-17 Thread OrionWorks
Once again, Foxnews.com shows it's intellectual prowess for
entertainment with the following commentary regarding the recent UFO
flap that happened in Texas.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,323135,00.html
http://tinyurl.com/2bvszp

TITLE: It's a Bird. It's a Plane. It's Boredom
By Greg Gutfield.


So in Stephenville, Texas, a dozen or so people reported seeing a
large object with bright lights flying low and fast in their
neighborhood. They called it a UFO, although I might call it a
plane.

See, I've always felt that there are two kinds of people in this
world: Those who see UFOS and the rest of us.

The fact of the matter is no one ever sees alien spacecraft in big
cities or places where there's a decent Wal-Mart. Sightings of strange
flying objects only occur in small towns, where there is little else
to do but hope and pray for an anal probing. This is not an insult.

Small towns are great because it's quiet and the beer is cheap — two
factors that allow for wishful thinking. See, to me UFOs are the small
city version of big city recycling. I mean, I'm sure recycling exists,
but I've never seen it. Seems like it all goes into one bin.

It's not that I don't believe in UFOs, it's just that I don't need the
unknown to complicate matters. I see things outside my apartment that
are all too real and disgusting — and sometimes they fly. They aren't
UFOs. They're pigeons. And they can't even work a probe — sadly.

And if you disagree with me, then you sir are worse than Hitler.

Greg Gutfeld hosts Red Eye with Greg Gutfeld weekdays at 2 a.m. ET.
Send your comments to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks



Re: [Vo]:OT: It's a Bird. It's a Plane. It's Boredom

2008-01-17 Thread leaking pen
So, wait, the one seen in phoenix by several THOUSANDS of people, with video
that showed it was not a plane or planes, that our SENATOR John McCain said
he saw , and knew it was not a plane...its small town boredom.  yeah.

On Jan 17, 2008 6:36 AM, OrionWorks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Once again, Foxnews.com shows it's intellectual prowess for
 entertainment with the following commentary regarding the recent UFO
 flap that happened in Texas.

 http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,323135,00.html
 http://tinyurl.com/2bvszp

 TITLE: It's a Bird. It's a Plane. It's Boredom
 By Greg Gutfield.

 
 So in Stephenville, Texas, a dozen or so people reported seeing a
 large object with bright lights flying low and fast in their
 neighborhood. They called it a UFO, although I might call it a
 plane.

 See, I've always felt that there are two kinds of people in this
 world: Those who see UFOS and the rest of us.

 The fact of the matter is no one ever sees alien spacecraft in big
 cities or places where there's a decent Wal-Mart. Sightings of strange
 flying objects only occur in small towns, where there is little else
 to do but hope and pray for an anal probing. This is not an insult.

 Small towns are great because it's quiet and the beer is cheap — two
 factors that allow for wishful thinking. See, to me UFOs are the small
 city version of big city recycling. I mean, I'm sure recycling exists,
 but I've never seen it. Seems like it all goes into one bin.

 It's not that I don't believe in UFOs, it's just that I don't need the
 unknown to complicate matters. I see things outside my apartment that
 are all too real and disgusting — and sometimes they fly. They aren't
 UFOs. They're pigeons. And they can't even work a probe — sadly.

 And if you disagree with me, then you sir are worse than Hitler.

 Greg Gutfeld hosts Red Eye with Greg Gutfeld weekdays at 2 a.m. ET.
 Send your comments to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

 Regards
 Steven Vincent Johnson
 www.OrionWorks.com
 www.zazzle.com/orionworks




-- 
That which yields isn't always weak.


Re: [Vo]:OT: It's a Bird. It's a Plane. It's Boredom

2008-01-17 Thread Standing Bear
Let us consider the pearl at the source of all this 'wisdom' the 'good' Mr
Gutfield.  He seems to know where all the cheap beer is;  and waxes longingly
on being anal probed.  Latent homosexuality is not a good personality detail
to be possessed of in a small town, and Gutfield has never seen more than
one recycling bin at any one time in his life.  My small town has over six in 
a row at a cheap cigarette stand just outside it and over the Indiana line 
(so to avoid high Michigan tobacco taxes), and it only has 6000 souls and 
4000 illegal immigrants (they are the only ones with jobs and money).
So Mr Gutfield must be in a REALLY small town.  
  Some of the UFO reports feature truly large craft far beyond what our
structural people can even construct as  buildings that sit on the ground...
and these FLY and compress space in an odd reversal of Einstein's little
pet favorite mistake constant which is in all likelyhood not a constant.
  So we will leave Gutfield, as his assumed name 'de plume' implies, to
his fecal ruminations,   please.

Standing Bear   ...walkin away from this pigeon freak.




On Thursday 17 January 2008 08:46, leaking pen wrote:
 So, wait, the one seen in phoenix by several THOUSANDS of people, with video
 that showed it was not a plane or planes, that our SENATOR John McCain said
 he saw , and knew it was not a plane...its small town boredom.  yeah.
 
 On Jan 17, 2008 6:36 AM, OrionWorks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Once again, Foxnews.com shows it's intellectual prowess for
  entertainment with the following commentary regarding the recent UFO
  flap that happened in Texas.
 
  http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,323135,00.html
  http://tinyurl.com/2bvszp
 
  TITLE: It's a Bird. It's a Plane. It's Boredom
  By Greg Gutfield.
 
  
  So in Stephenville, Texas, a dozen or so people reported seeing a
  large object with bright lights flying low and fast in their
  neighborhood. They called it a UFO, although I might call it a
  plane.
 
  See, I've always felt that there are two kinds of people in this
  world: Those who see UFOS and the rest of us.
 
  The fact of the matter is no one ever sees alien spacecraft in big
  cities or places where there's a decent Wal-Mart. Sightings of strange
  flying objects only occur in small towns, where there is little else
  to do but hope and pray for an anal probing. This is not an insult.
 
  Small towns are great because it's quiet and the beer is cheap — two
  factors that allow for wishful thinking. See, to me UFOs are the small
  city version of big city recycling. I mean, I'm sure recycling exists,
  but I've never seen it. Seems like it all goes into one bin.
 
  It's not that I don't believe in UFOs, it's just that I don't need the
  unknown to complicate matters. I see things outside my apartment that
  are all too real and disgusting — and sometimes they fly. They aren't
  UFOs. They're pigeons. And they can't even work a probe — sadly.
 
  And if you disagree with me, then you sir are worse than Hitler.
 
  Greg Gutfeld hosts Red Eye with Greg Gutfeld weekdays at 2 a.m. ET.
  Send your comments to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
 
  Regards
  Steven Vincent Johnson
  www.OrionWorks.com
  www.zazzle.com/orionworks
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 That which yields isn't always weak.
 



[Vo]:STEORN: When do measurement errors cease to be measurement errors

2008-01-17 Thread OrionWorks
Regarding recent STEORN forum PMM discussions:
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=60132page=1
http://tinyurl.com/29n2xf

The recent spate of alleged independent PMM replications by garage
inventors got me to wondering why we haven't heard didley squat from
any of the independent laboratories who signed on to test STEORN's
claims. I would have thought that by now that we would have at least
heard something from one of these labs.

But we haven't, and perhaps that's a good thing. The following is
complete unsupported speculation on my part, but I have found myself
thinking that it might be possible that most of the independent labs
have by now recorded a phenomenon that seems to suggest OverUnity.
However, being the conservative laboratory testers that they are
(Remember, their professional reputations are at stake here), the
predominant thoughts that have most likely passed through their
justifiably skeptical minds is that their measurements can't be
correct. Better test the contraption again, and again. ...Try to
figure out where they messed up.

Will they succeed in uncovering the mistake? I bet they are ALL
hoping they can. In the meantime, would YOU want to be the first to
announce shocking findings of this caliber to the world? If you know
other independent laboratories are also working on the same project,
where all it would take is just ONE of them announcing to the world
the teeny-tiny mistake in measurement that every other independent
laboratory was too dumb to notice, well, it's probably perceived under
the circumstances to see who else is brave enough to stick their neck
out first.

No, please! YOU FIRST!

Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks



Re: [Vo]:OT: It's a Bird. It's a Plane. It's Boredom

2008-01-17 Thread Terry Blanton
Here's the real story:

http://www.rawstory.com/news/mochila/Dozens_in_Texas_town_report_seeing__01142008.html

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Witnesses_recall_UFO_sightings_in_Texas_0115.html

Terry

On Jan 17, 2008 12:28 PM, OrionWorks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Howdy Richard,

 I'm sure I was a witness as well.

 I look forward to making my own unique contributions to the Dime Box
 Saloon Science Phenomena Society.


 Regards
 Steven Vincent Johnson
 www.OrionWorks.com
 www.zazzle.com/orionworks





Re: [Vo]:OT: It's a Bird. It's a Plane. It's Boredom

2008-01-17 Thread R.C.Macaulay

Howdy Vorts,

We have the Dime Box Saloon science phenomena society checking into the UFO 
sightings up north Texas way.


So far the final report has been held up pending another delivery of Lone 
Star beer. It is near impossible to gather evidence without first placing 
the witnesses in an atmosphere of comfort.


Richard 



[Vo]:Edmund Storms lecture video at YouTube

2008-01-17 Thread Jed Rothwell

See:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ltZhii3g2HY

This is pretty good.

Ignoring the content, here are some comments about the video itself:

This is only 8 minutes of a 50-minute lecture. I guess the other 
parts will be uploaded later. Is there a file size limit at YouTube?


The sound quality, lighting, focus and other video attributes are 
much better than most cold-fusion related videos. This is almost as 
good as a professionally made video. I am especially pleased there is 
no background noise.


The video quality could be improved by inserting the computer screen 
images (viewgraphs and figures) directly into the video. I think this 
can be done fairly easily. I will ask a video expert, such as my daughter.


- Jed



Re: [Vo]:STEORN: When do measurement errors cease to be measurement errors

2008-01-17 Thread OrionWorks
Pardon my mangling of your name, Jed.

I still remember the flack I got here when I accidentally misspelled
Puthoff's name as Putoff. Everyone, and I mean *everyone* thought I
was being intentionally derisive towards Puthoff.

Dyslexia strikes again.

Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks



Re: [Vo]:STEORN: When do measurement errors cease to be measurement errors

2008-01-17 Thread OrionWorks
Jet sez:

...

 It is puzzling that they have not come out with negative reports yet.
 As Martin Fleischmann remarked, the easiest thing in the world is to
 convince yourself you are wrong. Any scientist worth his salt can
 come up with a non-existent error to dismiss a result. See, for
 example, Reviewer #7's handwaving here:

 http://lenr-canr.org/Collections/DoeReview.htm#StormsRothwellCritique

 - Jed

IMO, being open minded does not necessarily translate into possessing
sufficient confidence in one's findings, especially if the evidence
suggests centuries of how magnetism was thought to work is in danger
of being flipped upside down.

Better let someone else stick their neck out first.

I believe this was the complaint STEORN brought up when they had their
findings initially tested in an independent laboratory. The lab
declined to publish their findings. At least that's what STEORN claims
happened - which subsequently precipitated their audacious
announcement in The Guardian in an attempt to force the issue to the
fore front.

The fact that, as you say, none of these independent labs have yet to
come out with a negative report causes me to speculate that they may
be repeating the experiment over and over in an attempt to discover
where they screwed up! Don't come back until you get it right!!!

Alas, speculation of this sort is a dangerous sport. Guilty as charged.

Screwing up royally last Summer at Kinetica Museum destroyed a
considerable amount confidence and good will in STEORN's claims.

I have to ask myself: Right at this moment... The Evidence as
presented so far in the public domain - what are the odds...

Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks



Re: [Vo]:STEORN: When do measurement errors cease to be measurement errors

2008-01-17 Thread Jed Rothwell

OrionWorks wrote:

. . . it might be possible that most of the independent labs have by 
now recorded a phenomenon that seems to suggest OverUnity. However, 
being the conservative laboratory testers that they are (Remember, 
their professional reputations are at stake here), the predominant 
thoughts that have most likely passed through their justifiably 
skeptical minds is that their measurements can't be correct.


That's plausible, but on the other hand they would not have taken the 
assignment in the first place if they were not somewhat open minded. 
A pathological skeptic will refuse to look. He will not even read a paper.


It is puzzling that they have not come out with negative reports yet. 
As Martin Fleischmann remarked, the easiest thing in the world is to 
convince yourself you are wrong. Any scientist worth his salt can 
come up with a non-existent error to dismiss a result. See, for 
example, Reviewer #7's handwaving here:


http://lenr-canr.org/Collections/DoeReview.htm#StormsRothwellCritique

- Jed



Re: [Vo]:OT: It's a Bird. It's a Plane. It's Boredom

2008-01-17 Thread OrionWorks
Howdy Richard,

I'm sure I was a witness as well.

I look forward to making my own unique contributions to the Dime Box
Saloon Science Phenomena Society.

Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks



Re: [Vo]:CNN.COM: Bush pushes Saudis for help with rising oil prices

2008-01-17 Thread thomas malloy

Edmund Storms wrote:

 Besides the price will naturally drop soon as the American economy 
slides into depression. Why take a hit sooner than is necessary? 
Besides, Bush is no longer useful in getting American aid. In this 
game of poker, Bush has now lost every hand and has no idea how to 
play the game.


The oil producers are terrified that we will come up with an alternative 
fuel, or dramatically increase the efficiency with which it is burned 
and the price will crash, just like what happened in the '80's. Which is 
exactly what I'd like to do.



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RE: [Vo]:OT: It's a Bird. It's a Plane. It's Boredom

2008-01-17 Thread Rick Monteverde
Aw c'mon, it's just RedEye. Funny stuff meant to annoy and entertain. This
line's actually pretty good: It's not that I don't believe in UFOs, it's
just that I don't need the unknown to complicate matters. That might seem
to cyncial, but let's say everyone did take UFO reports very, very
seriously. Exactly what would that actually provide us in terms of benefits
to either society or to individuals? A few people finding they aren't
ridiculed anymore when they report a sighting? Nice, but if a person these
days says who they're backing for president, or even which team they like in
the playoffs, someone's right there to call them worse than Hitler again
anyway. 

- Rick


-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 6:11 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:OT: It's a Bird. It's a Plane. It's Boredom

Then there was San Diego on New Years:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=MAox0pcZZxo

Terry

On Jan 17, 2008 8:46 AM, leaking pen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So, wait, the one seen in phoenix by several THOUSANDS of people, with 
 video that showed it was not a plane or planes, that our SENATOR John
McCain said
 he saw , and knew it was not a plane...its small town boredom.  yeah.



 On Jan 17, 2008 6:36 AM, OrionWorks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Once again, Foxnews.com shows it's intellectual prowess for 
  entertainment with the following commentary regarding the recent UFO 
  flap that happened in Texas.
 
  http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,323135,00.html
  http://tinyurl.com/2bvszp
 
  TITLE: It's a Bird. It's a Plane. It's Boredom By Greg Gutfield.
 
  
  So in Stephenville, Texas, a dozen or so people reported seeing a 
  large object with bright lights flying low and fast in their 
  neighborhood. They called it a UFO, although I might call it a 
  plane.
 
  See, I've always felt that there are two kinds of people in this
  world: Those who see UFOS and the rest of us.
 
  The fact of the matter is no one ever sees alien spacecraft in big 
  cities or places where there's a decent Wal-Mart. Sightings of 
  strange flying objects only occur in small towns, where there is 
  little else to do but hope and pray for an anal probing. This is not an
insult.
 
  Small towns are great because it's quiet and the beer is cheap - two 
  factors that allow for wishful thinking. See, to me UFOs are the 
  small city version of big city recycling. I mean, I'm sure recycling 
  exists, but I've never seen it. Seems like it all goes into one bin.
 
  It's not that I don't believe in UFOs, it's just that I don't need 
  the unknown to complicate matters. I see things outside my apartment 
  that are all too real and disgusting - and sometimes they fly. They 
  aren't UFOs. They're pigeons. And they can't even work a probe - sadly.
 
  And if you disagree with me, then you sir are worse than Hitler.
 
  Greg Gutfeld hosts Red Eye with Greg Gutfeld weekdays at 2 a.m. ET.
  Send your comments to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
 
  Regards
  Steven Vincent Johnson
  www.OrionWorks.com
  www.zazzle.com/orionworks
 
 



 --
 That which yields isn't always weak.





Re: [Vo]:Edmund Storms lecture video at YouTube

2008-01-17 Thread Terry Blanton
There's a 10 min. time limit on UT.  There's also a u/l file size
limit; but, it's pretty big since they take .mov files.  They compress
all files into a .flv format (flash video).

Upload to google video.  They take any and all, AFAIK.

Terry

On Jan 17, 2008 2:26 PM, Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 See:

 http://youtube.com/watch?v=ltZhii3g2HY

 This is pretty good.

 Ignoring the content, here are some comments about the video itself:

 This is only 8 minutes of a 50-minute lecture. I guess the other
 parts will be uploaded later. Is there a file size limit at YouTube?

 The sound quality, lighting, focus and other video attributes are
 much better than most cold-fusion related videos. This is almost as
 good as a professionally made video. I am especially pleased there is
 no background noise.

 The video quality could be improved by inserting the computer screen
 images (viewgraphs and figures) directly into the video. I think this
 can be done fairly easily. I will ask a video expert, such as my daughter.

 - Jed





Re: [Vo]:STEORN: When do measurement errors cease to be measurement errors

2008-01-17 Thread Terry Blanton
Could be worse.  You could also be an agnostic isomniac and stay up
all night wordering if there really is a Dog.

Terry

On Jan 17, 2008 2:17 PM, OrionWorks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Pardon my mangling of your name, Jed.

 I still remember the flack I got here when I accidentally misspelled
 Puthoff's name as Putoff. Everyone, and I mean *everyone* thought I
 was being intentionally derisive towards Puthoff.

 Dyslexia strikes again.


 Regards,
 Steven Vincent Johnson
 www.OrionWorks.com
 www.zazzle.com/orionworks





[Vo]:Even Newer Solar Panel

2008-01-17 Thread Terry Blanton
If you make your clothes of this:

http://www.gizmag.com/researchers-developing-solar-technology-that-works-at-night/8574/

you can charge your cell phone . . . even at night!

Terry



Re: [Vo]:Even Newer Solar Panel

2008-01-17 Thread OrionWorks
From Terry,

 If you make your clothes of this:

 http://www.gizmag.com/researchers-developing-solar-technology-that-works-at-night/8574/

 you can charge your cell phone . . . even at night!

 Terry

From the article:

 As exciting as the potential of the technology is,
 not all the hurdles have been passed yet. While the
 nanoantennas are easily manufactured, the problem of
 creating a way to store or transmit the electricity is
 yet to be solved. Although infrared rays create an
 alternating current in the nanoantenna, the frequency
 of the current switches back and forth ten thousand
 billion times a second - much too fast for electrical
 appliances, which operate on currents that oscillate
 only 60 times a second. The team is exploring ways to
 slow that cycling down and has a patent pending on a
 variety of potential energy conversion methods. They
 anticipate they are only a few years away from creating
 the next generation of solar energy collectors.

Pretty cool stuff.

If I calculated correctly the frequency range of ten thousand billion
times a second is in the Infrared range. Makes sense.

I wonder how those tiny vibrating nanoantennas get around the heat
entropy issue. Aren't you supposed to have a heat differential to
allow for energy extraction? Wouldn't the technology stop working if
it was bathed in ambient heat from every direction? Another thought:
If energy in the form of electricity IS carried away, shouldn't the
nanoantenna matrix collectively experience a temperature drop?

I wonder if they could use a modified version of Dr. Stiffler's LED
configuration where the lights are designed to be sensitive to
infrared EM as a way to ameliorate the stepping down process.

Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks



Re: [Vo]:Even Newer Solar Panel

2008-01-17 Thread leaking pen
i was thinking the same, in terms of heat exchange, and cooling. Hell, from
the sounds of it, make your clothes of it and you could charge your cell
phone by jogging. at 80 percent efficiency on sunlight...   how efficient
would this be for making electricity from just heat?  this could replace
every form of turbine generation from heat sources, nuclear, burning things,
ect.

On 1/17/08, OrionWorks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From Terry,

  If you make your clothes of this:
 
 
 http://www.gizmag.com/researchers-developing-solar-technology-that-works-at-night/8574/
 
  you can charge your cell phone . . . even at night!
 
  Terry

 From the article:

  As exciting as the potential of the technology is,
  not all the hurdles have been passed yet. While the
  nanoantennas are easily manufactured, the problem of
  creating a way to store or transmit the electricity is
  yet to be solved. Although infrared rays create an
  alternating current in the nanoantenna, the frequency
  of the current switches back and forth ten thousand
  billion times a second - much too fast for electrical
  appliances, which operate on currents that oscillate
  only 60 times a second. The team is exploring ways to
  slow that cycling down and has a patent pending on a
  variety of potential energy conversion methods. They
  anticipate they are only a few years away from creating
  the next generation of solar energy collectors.

 Pretty cool stuff.

 If I calculated correctly the frequency range of ten thousand billion
 times a second is in the Infrared range. Makes sense.

 I wonder how those tiny vibrating nanoantennas get around the heat
 entropy issue. Aren't you supposed to have a heat differential to
 allow for energy extraction? Wouldn't the technology stop working if
 it was bathed in ambient heat from every direction? Another thought:
 If energy in the form of electricity IS carried away, shouldn't the
 nanoantenna matrix collectively experience a temperature drop?

 I wonder if they could use a modified version of Dr. Stiffler's LED
 configuration where the lights are designed to be sensitive to
 infrared EM as a way to ameliorate the stepping down process.

 Regards
 Steven Vincent Johnson
 www.OrionWorks.com
 www.zazzle.com/orionworks




-- 
That which yields isn't always weak.


Re: [Vo]:STEORN: When do measurement errors cease to be measurement errors

2008-01-17 Thread OrionWorks
 Could be worse.  You could also be an agnostic isomniac
 and stay up all night wordering if there really is a Dog.

Terry

It's probably advisable that you don't express such concerns to the
cat of the house. We're in enuf trubel already.

Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks



Re: [Vo]:Edmund Storms lecture video at YouTube

2008-01-17 Thread Jed Rothwell

Per Terry's suggestion, Brian is has moved the video to Google. Not sure where.

He will delete the YouTube version.

- Jed



Re: [Vo]:Edmund Storms lecture video at YouTube

2008-01-17 Thread Steven Krivit

I can get the whole 50min piece up on Google. Give me a day or two.

At 11:26 AM 1/17/2008, you wrote:

See:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ltZhii3g2HY

This is pretty good.

Ignoring the content, here are some comments about the video itself:

This is only 8 minutes of a 50-minute lecture. I guess the other parts 
will be uploaded later. Is there a file size limit at YouTube?


The sound quality, lighting, focus and other video attributes are much 
better than most cold-fusion related videos. This is almost as good as a 
professionally made video. I am especially pleased there is no background 
noise.


The video quality could be improved by inserting the computer screen 
images (viewgraphs and figures) directly into the video. I think this can 
be done fairly easily. I will ask a video expert, such as my daughter.


- Jed





Re: [Vo]:Edmund Storms lecture video at YouTube

2008-01-17 Thread Edmund Storms

Thanks Steve, but Brian has already done this.

Ed

Steven Krivit wrote:


I can get the whole 50min piece up on Google. Give me a day or two.

At 11:26 AM 1/17/2008, you wrote:


See:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ltZhii3g2HY

This is pretty good.

Ignoring the content, here are some comments about the video itself:

This is only 8 minutes of a 50-minute lecture. I guess the other parts 
will be uploaded later. Is there a file size limit at YouTube?


The sound quality, lighting, focus and other video attributes are much 
better than most cold-fusion related videos. This is almost as good as 
a professionally made video. I am especially pleased there is no 
background noise.


The video quality could be improved by inserting the computer screen 
images (viewgraphs and figures) directly into the video. I think this 
can be done fairly easily. I will ask a video expert, such as my 
daughter.


- Jed








[Vo]:Cosmic Matter and LENR

2008-01-17 Thread Jones Beene
Here is a bit more info for the hypothesis that the lack of consistency 
in LENR experiments could possibly be related to the presence or absence 
of cosmic matter in palladium (and other metals).


Especially palladium contaminated with the presence of undetectable 
mirror matter in small amounts, and especially from minerals mined at 
Sudbury, Ont. Canada -- or any mine which contains similar minerals from 
a large asteroid impact, which happened after Earth solidified.


It is logical to suspect that if mirror matter is real, then asteroids 
with an elongated orbit, and which may go out to the extreme limits of 
the solar system, are more likely to contain more of it ... and then, 
following impact, this material is more likely to have remained near the 
surface, compared with primordial mirror matter, which may have been 
sequestered in Earth's core early-on -- by its gravity (but lack of 
other strong interactions with regular matter on a molten planet).


Believe it or not, this hypothesis now comes with an actual close-up 
image of the process which could be involved !


Here is the BBC site and story with the image of Eros, which is a meteor 
of larger size than the one containing all that nickel and precious 
metal, which has been mined at Sudbury for over 100 years.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/2463143.stm

Dr Robert Foot states that close-up observations of Eros by the 
Near-Shoemaker probe indicate it could have been splattered by mirror 
matter. Since most of regular matter is hydrogen, we can assume that 
mirror-hydrogen is the most likely contaminant for earthly minerals.


There are a few convincing arguments that the mirror neutron would be 
unstable, even if bound in nuclei (Berezhiani, Dolgov et al
Phys. Lett. B 1996).. As a consequence, mirror hydrogen would then be 
the only stable mirror element of interest. It is also possible that 
palladium would capture this species in its matrix just as it does 
regular hydorgen.


Mirror matter is not anti-matter, but is somehow a reflection of 
normal matter, a sort of parallel series of particles required to 
restore the right hand balance to what we see as a left-handed Universe. 
Horace has more detail on his site, and might want to correct the 
details of this post.


How mirror matter could catalyze LENR - if indeed (big 'if') it is 
present in Pd is not clear. Even if there was some mirror palladium out 
there, much more common would be mirror hydrogen. In that case it is 
unclear if it would be a reactant or catalyst.


But since conservation of spin would be required for D+D fusion, the 
modality which mirror matter might facilitate could involve 
spin-alignment in the matrix, which otherwise might not happen with Pd 
alone.


BTW - this (conservation of spin) is the rationale for some of the 
advanced techniques of Dr. Dennis Cravens- and his use of an applied 
magnetic field (Letts-Cravens effect).


Mirror matter interacts with our matter primarily via gravity, but if 
some small amount of it is contaminating precious metals... which seem 
pure, there is almost no way to tell that at the present time. It is 
possible that in addition to gravity, there could be near-field effects 
of mirror hydrogen. This would be the possible route for LENR.


Dr Foot believes that mirror matter would have been made in abundance in 
the Big Bang, and that it is all around us as dark matter, even in the 
Milky Way, but we can't see it. Some of it, especially mirror hydrogen, 
may be closer than he thinks.


Jones




Re: [Vo]:CNN.COM: Bush pushes Saudis for help with rising oil prices

2008-01-17 Thread thomas malloy

Jed Rothwell wrote:


Edmund Storms wrote:

Because the oil companies are so rich and powerfull all over the 
world and because an effective alternate energy source would be so 
financially disruptive to every industry at first, a great effort 
will be made to resist any rapid change.



In the past, established industries often made tremendous efforts to 
stop rapid change, but they failed. The people who made and sailed 
sailing ships tried to keep the U.S. and British governments from 
subsidizing steam ships. Railroads 


I've been thinking about the same thing. There are various technological 
changes which could be made to the vehicle fleet which would cut their 
gas usage in half. But would President Bush support the enabling 
legislation?



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