On 01/28/2011 08:01 PM, Terry Blanton wrote:
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Could Rossi be from the future?
No, David Lynch.
All very nice(in a sense) except that the gentleman in the picture is
not David Lynch, but Tim Robbins in the poster of a David
Terry sez:
Meanwhile, I suspect Dr. Mill's is discretely sharpening his own fangs.
Maybe. But, I fear for Randell's mental health when he realizes what
he missed by denial.
I would speculate that if Mills Co. are lucky enough to deliver their CIHT
prototype later in 2011, and if it
At 01:00 AM 1/29/2011, Horace Heffner wrote:
On Jan 28, 2011, at 5:08 PM, SHIRAKAWA Akira wrote:
[snip]
ROSSI. Exactly. In fact, mine is not cold fusion, but weak energy
nuclear reactions. Fleischmann and Pons did heavy water
electrolysis with a palladium cathode and platinum anode. I don't
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 7:26 AM, Mauro Lacy ma...@lacy.com.ar wrote:
All very nice(in a sense) except that the gentleman in the picture is
not David Lynch,
Thanks, Mauro; but, when Jones said Rossi was from the future, I meant
he was from a David Lynch movie, Eraserhead.
T
Most of us here on the forum agree that if the Rossi device is not faked, it
is the most important energy invention since the Manhattan project. This is
what Mills had claimed for his work about 6 months ago, but all of a sudden
BLP is 'eating dust' and stalled at the gate in the metaphorical
Most of us here on the forum agree that if the Rossi device is
not faked, it is the most important energy invention since the
Manhattan project. This is what Mills had claimed for his work
about 6 months ago, but all of a sudden BLP is 'eating dust' and
stalled at the gate in the metaphorical
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Think about it. It would not surprise me to see this project sequestered,
and with perhaps with Rossi’s full cooperation. He would be a fool to not to
go along with such a plan.
I think it has too great a military value
Good analysis, Jones however I would add this:
- the cell shows that 2 problems are solved- i*ntensity* and *
reproducibility*however what remains is *scale up*. A la prima vista it
seems that the 1 MW demo will be an assembly of say, 125 cells working
together. I hope not...I am an engineer and I
From Peter:
...
If you look carefully to Mills's papers he was more focused on
scale-up. Let's wait the two macro demonstrations - Rossi's and
BLP's they will be in the same time, almost. Interesting times..
Can anyone spell: p-a-t-e-n-t w-a-r?
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
peatbog peat...@teksavvy.com wrote:
Once Rossi
comes across with a convincing demo or the mw power plant, or
even does a long run of the 12kw device, it won't be long before
people figure out what the catalyst is and build the devices for
themselves.
Patents will be a joke. No country
Yes, Peter there is the looming issue of scale-up.
You say: it seems that the 1 MW demo will be an assembly of say, 125 cells
working together. I hope not...I am an engineer and I don't like the idea.
Yes, that was my initial reaction as well. However, if this device is
basically driven by
HOW TO REALLY GIVE POWER TO THE PEOPLE
Extra Spending Power Would Be Quickly Lost
To collect royalties, one only has to make the royalties cheaper to pay than
the legal fees and the disruption that litigation brings. Besides,
Governements will not miss such a great opportunity to tax such
Populistocracy:
The Long-Awaited Death of Special-Interest Politics!!!
What could be more fair than allowing anyone who wants to hold public office to
participate in a random drawing??? This is authentic Democracy! This is how
they chose their Assembly Members in Ancient Athens! This
From the blog:
Jed Rothwell
January 29th, 2011 at 1:01 PM
I am delighted to hear you are continuing your collaboration with U.
Bologna.
I wish you would provide two other demonstration units, to be tested in
Cambridge U. in the U.K. and in the U.S. I am sure we can arrange for tests
at a
more red flags...at first Rossi said the 1MW unit would ready in 2-3 months now
it won't be ready until october. we also know nothing about this Defkalion
company.
harry
--- On Sat, 1/29/11, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
Subject: [Vo]:Rossi
In reply to Wm. Scott Smith's message of Sat, 29 Jan 2011 11:16:36 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
In other words they will tax the royalties so you won't Feel like you are
being taxed. Really, especially in Added Value Tax Countries, the
overwhelming portion of the price you pay for virtually everything s
THANKS FOR CLARIFICATION ON VAT!
Do VAT countries also have Income Taxes. If so, this tax is also reflected in
the prices.
rom: mix...@bigpond.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:How to Really Give Power to the People!
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 08:20:58 +1100
In reply to Wm.
In reply to Wm. Scott Smith's message of Sat, 29 Jan 2011 11:16:36 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
Besides, free energy wouldn't be free, just from the standpoint that, extra
money being diverted from energy into the otherwise same economy will not
increase goods or services nor will it give you more
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Sat, 29 Jan 2011 12:04:26 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
I think it has too great a military value to be hidden.
[snip]
The military value is a pittance compared to the positive impact it could have
on society as a whole. Besides, if you reduce population pressure
In reply to Peter Gluck's message of Sat, 29 Jan 2011 19:52:33 +0200:
Hi,
[snip]
Good analysis, Jones however I would add this:
- the cell shows that 2 problems are solved- i*ntensity* and *
reproducibility*however what remains is *scale up*. A la prima vista it
seems that the 1 MW demo will be
In reply to Wm. Scott Smith's message of Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:25:41 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
THANKS FOR CLARIFICATION ON VAT!
Do VAT countries also have Income Taxes. If so, this tax is also reflected in
the prices.
Yes, there are also income taxes, both individual and company. In our country
(and
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Fri, 28 Jan 2011 19:47:37 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
What if it gets down to needing a completely new heat reactor every six
months? That could happen.
I think refurbishment every 6 months is more likely. That would probably
entail swapping out the Ni. However the Ni
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:
And I'd have suggested that reputable scientists should have avoided
participating in the demonstration. To participate and make a report without
complete information is to promote the work of Rossi, to assist Rossi in
obtaining funding that
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Sat, 29 Jan 2011 08:28:55 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
Think about it. It would not surprise me to see this project sequestered,
and with perhaps with Rossi's full cooperation. He would be a fool to not to
go along with such a plan.
...which of course doesn't
mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
Well consider this, a series-parallel arrangement has advantages. If one of
the
parallel lines has a failure, then you just have somewhat reduced power
output
while it gets repaired. If you have a failure in a large single unit then
you
lose power completely
On 01/29/2011 12:57 PM, Terry Blanton wrote:
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 7:26 AM, Mauro Lacy ma...@lacy.com.ar wrote:
All very nice(in a sense) except that the gentleman in the picture is
not David Lynch,
Thanks, Mauro; but, when Jones said Rossi was from the future, I meant
he was from a David
I think North Korea and other militaristic nations are reading every word on
Rossi's blog and putting it together with other information like we are
doing here on Vortex. These nations
Recognize the economical and military potential to winning this race and are
far less influenced by big oil and
Previously, when I suggested that large sums of money should be spent
ensuring the safety of the Rossi system, someone here objected that:
1. It would not be fair.
2. Rossi does not have that kind of money.
3. It would delay the introduction of the system.
Let me address these points:
1. It is
Yes, in the long run, society will benefit from the cheap energy itself, either
way. Patents aren't like copywrites, patents run out in 20 years. In my case,
it would be more like 15 years because it will take five years to bring my
ideas fully to market. That gives just enough time to help
The 'Black Swan Theory' of human development was developed by Nassim
Nicholas Taleb to better explain the role of freaky randomness in history
and science. Not just 'improbability' but utter unpredictability on one
level, yet with the kind of hidden influences that makes it stochastic
instead of
--- On Sat, 1/29/11, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:The Big Picture
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, January 29, 2011, 4:57 PM
This is an unknown nuclear reaction for crying out loud! A NUCLEAR
REACTION. It is not a
In reply to Kyle Mcallister's message of Sat, 29 Jan 2011 22:03:44 -0800 (PST):
Hi,
[snip]
I guess all I have to say is, all the problems of worrying about convincing
the public that the thing (whatever it is) is safe, lie ultimately in
educating them in science.
[snip]
That's an impossible
Interesting idea, but the Rossi cell was predictible.
Globally we ( a rather small group) knew that LENR is possible in principle
but very difficult to achieve in practice- at a technologically valuable
level. Based on a long saga of trial-and-error, in which seemingly the
number of errors was
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