Re: [Vo]:A simple method for extremely accurate enthalpy measurement

2011-08-19 Thread Horace Heffner
On Aug 19, 2011, at 5:11 PM, Jouni Valkonen wrote: No worry, if there is any invested money into E-Cat and it is a fraud, then any investor may request full monetary compensation with interest. Investors are carefully protected by law and any misleading information (that can be shown as such in

Re: [Vo]:A New Reason to Go Green

2011-08-19 Thread fznidarsic
I don't know why NASA say this. I believe that our high power directional radar emissions would be very detectable and we need not worry about atmospheric signatures. Frank Z

Re: [Vo]:A simple method for extremely accurate enthalpy measurement

2011-08-19 Thread Horace Heffner
Ad hominem, personal attack, is a logical fallacy, and a sure sign of a lost argument, essentially a capitulation. It is even worse than an appeal to authority in lieu of argument based on facts when such is available. On Aug 19, 2011, at 12:42 PM, Jouni Valkonen wrote: 2011/8/19 Horace

Re: [Vo]:U.S. Researcher Preparing Prototype Cars Powered by Heavy-Metal Thorium

2011-08-19 Thread mixent
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Re: [Vo]:A New Reason to Go Green

2011-08-19 Thread Jouni Valkonen
I apologize the environmentalist off-topic, but really I cannot avoid writing this. 2011/8/19 Harry Veeder : > Another good reason to move to vertical farming, which I > hope will be made affordable by CF technology. > Also desert farming is plausible alternative. It does not cost much more to c

Re: [Vo]:A simple method for extremely accurate enthalpy measurement

2011-08-19 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint wrote: > He may not have a white lab coat, but he probably has a straight jacket or > two lying around!  :-) For formal wear. T

RE: [Vo]:A simple method for extremely accurate enthalpy measurement

2011-08-19 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
He may not have a white lab coat, but he probably has a straight jacket or two lying around! :-) -M -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 1:32 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:A simple method for extremely accurate en

Re: [Vo]:A simple method for extremely accurate enthalpy measurement

2011-08-19 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Jouni Valkonen wrote: > Susan, I am sure that Jed Rothwell is one of the VVHL-scientist, who > will be present at 1MW demonstration. I don't think Jed even owns a white lab coat. T

Re: [Vo]:A simple method for extremely accurate enthalpy measurement

2011-08-19 Thread Jouni Valkonen
Susan, I am sure that Jed Rothwell is one of the VVHL-scientist, who will be present at 1MW demonstration. Rossi also promised that single self-sustaining E-Cat module is tested, for accurate calorimetric analysis. –Jouni 2011/8/19 Susan Gipp : > Can you try to pass along this info to Dr. Rossi

Re: [Vo]:A simple method for extremely accurate enthalpy measurement

2011-08-19 Thread Peter Gluck
*Serious LENR research* is that made by Piantelli and this stays irrespective from Rossi's results. Rossi's idea to make a perfect experiment with 330 combined E cats instead of 3, 33, 330 perfect experiments with individual E-cats is kind of techno-fiction (to use an euphemism) Peter On Fri, Aug

Re: [Vo]:A simple method for extremely accurate enthalpy measurement

2011-08-19 Thread Horace Heffner
I still think ice calorimetry I suggested last January is a better idea, because it is based on first principles, is very accurate, and can be used throughout an experiment to achieve the very essential *total energy balance*, vs just a snapshot power measurement, which can be very deceivin

Re: [Vo]:A simple method for extremely accurate enthalpy measurement

2011-08-19 Thread Peter Gluck
DearJouni, Your method was already suggested by Jed and other colleagues- it is the batch method. I have suggested a continuous one:see please http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com/2011/05/call-for-perfect-e-cat-experiment.html I have sent it both to Rossi and Levi who have ignored it-they don't want

Re: [Vo]:A New Reason to Go Green

2011-08-19 Thread Harry Veeder
Nick Palmer wrote: >   >Jouni Valkonen. >  >You didn't understand what I wrote. The main strawman you used was to suggest that climate science somehow ignores or knows nothing about the effects of forests and their potential to mitigate CO2 levels. You even implied a conspiracy to avoid men

Re: [Vo]:A simple method for extremely accurate enthalpy measurement

2011-08-19 Thread Susan Gipp
Can you try to pass along this info to Dr. Rossi and/or one of the V.V.H.L. (very very high level) scientist that are going to test the One Megawatt Huge Cat ? 2011/8/19 Jouni Valkonen > Hallo, > > I stumbled upon in the internet a very simple method for doing > extremely accurate (up to two or

Re: [Vo]:A New Reason to Go Green

2011-08-19 Thread Nick Palmer
Jouni Valkonen. You didn't understand what I wrote. The main strawman you used was to suggest that climate science somehow ignores or knows nothing about the effects of forests and their potential to mitigate CO2 levels. You even implied a conspiracy to avoid mentioing them. Laughable! Try loo

[Vo]:A simple method for extremely accurate enthalpy measurement

2011-08-19 Thread Jouni Valkonen
Hallo, I stumbled upon in the internet a very simple method for doing extremely accurate (up to two or three significant digits, depending on insulation) calorimetric analysis for any water boiler. Method is simple and all measurements are accurate: – Just weight 5 kg water into bucket. – Measure

Re: [Vo]:A New Reason to Go Green

2011-08-19 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > A CNN announcer just asked, "Should we: > > 1)  Take immediate action to curb greenhouse gases; or, > > 2)  Start developing weapons to destroy the aliens before they destroy us?" > > Can't we all just get along? Here's the actual paper: ht

Re: [Vo]:A New Reason to Go Green

2011-08-19 Thread Terry Blanton
A CNN announcer just asked, "Should we: 1) Take immediate action to curb greenhouse gases; or, 2) Start developing weapons to destroy the aliens before they destroy us?" Can't we all just get along? T

Re: [Vo]:A New Reason to Go Green

2011-08-19 Thread Jouni Valkonen
Skepticalscience.com is perhaps the worst quality page on climate science! There is nothing skeptical, but only one, partial truth or even too often, falsified truth accepted. Also I have not read all the articles there, but I would think it odd that there is any relevant articles that deal with de