Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Oil Price.com features Brillouin CF Reactor

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 8:58 PM, Eric Walker wrote: > > But this statement from Wikipedia could lead one to wonder whether the > cathode (nickel, palladium, tungsten, etc.) is the "secret catalyst": > I'm using "cathode" too broadly here -- I mean the metal substrate within which the nuclear-act

Re: [Vo]:Pirelli Foundation funds successful LENR Cold Fusion Project

If this high school reaction is consistent with the Rossi Reaction; a proton based reaction, I suspect that Rhenium is the mainline transmutation product. Since potassium is the not so secret sauce in this high school reaction, it lends credence to the speculation that potassium is also the secr

Re: [Vo]:Oil Price.com features Brillouin CF Reactor

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 7:18 PM, wrote: > > Hasn't someone here rebutted the physics of e-c capture? > The rebuttals I've seen involve the p + e- -> n + v reaction that is usually understood to occur between an inner shell electron and a proton in a nucleus, or of the heavy electrons that Widom

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Oil Price.com features Brillouin CF Reactor

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 12:48 PM, David Roberson wrote: > > I have not seen any reference to transformation of nickel to copper as > Rossi claims and I was wondering if anyone else has seen any references. > Why would all of the freshly minted neutrons collect with protons only and > not any of

Re: [Vo]:Oil Price.com features Brillouin CF Reactor

In reply to Jones Beene's message of Tue, 24 Apr 2012 13:39:12 -0700: Hi, Note that enhanced electron capture is also a characteristic of Hydrino capture or Horace's theory. The difference being that with these theories the electron capture happens either concurrent with or after the proton captu

RE: [Vo]:Oil Price.com features Brillouin CF Reactor

How does the initiating step differ from the electron-capture proposed in W-L papers? Hasn't someone here rebutted the physics of e-c capture? Not "freshly minted"? Jones Beene wrote: > Well, the short answer is instantaneous. The Brillo boys are using a > variant > of W-L theory, which to the

Re: [Vo]:More Details About Pirelli High School Cold Fusion Experiment

> Building instructions hand translated in English: > http://www.e-catworld.com/**2012/04/english-translation-** > of-build-instructions-for-**pirelli-athanor-cell/ Detailed instructions! Good.

Re: [Vo]:Can a Box Fly?

...but now I can't think outside of the box. ;) Harry On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > This one does by turning inside out: > > http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/nstv/2012/04/flying-object-propels-itself-by-flipping-inside-out.html?cmpid=NLC|NSNS|2012-2304-GLOBAL|flyingobj

Re: [Vo]:More Details About Pirelli High School Cold Fusion Experiment

On 2012-04-24 14:24, Akira Shirakawa wrote: From e-Catworld: Building instructions hand translated in English: http://www.e-catworld.com/2012/04/english-translation-of-build-instructions-for-pirelli-athanor-cell/ Cheers, S.A.

RE: [Vo]:Can a Box Fly?

>From Terry > This one does by turning inside out: > > http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/nstv/2012/04/flying-object-propels- > itself-by-flipping-inside-out.html?cmpid=NLC|NSNS|2012-2304- > GLOBAL|flyingobjects&utm_medium=NLC&utm_source=NSNS&utm_content=flyingo > bjects > > http://goo.gl/p2NdK

Re: [Vo]:International Conference "The Atom Unexplored" - May 4th, 2012

In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Tue, 24 Apr 2012 13:03:18 -0400: Hi, [snip] I get the impression they are still 10 years behind the times. >On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Akira Shirakawa > wrote: >> On 2012-04-19 11:21, Akira Shirakawa wrote: >> >>> Website: http://www.theatomunexplored

Re: [Vo]:Can a Box Fly?

In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Tue, 24 Apr 2012 15:06:58 -0400: Hi, [snip] >This one does by turning inside out: > >http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/nstv/2012/04/flying-object-propels-itself-by-flipping-inside-out.html?cmpid=NLC|NSNS|2012-2304-GLOBAL|flyingobjects&utm_medium=NLC&utm_sourc

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Oil Price.com features Brillouin CF Reactor

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Axil Axil wrote: > What gives the Rossi type reactor its power is the secret sauce and the > Rossi reaction is different from and more powerful than the Brillouin > reaction. > Considering that Rossi hasn't revealed how the E-Cat system works I don't see how you

Re: [Vo]:Oil Price.com features Brillouin CF Reactor

It will be interesting to see how this plays out in the long run. Maybe the 'Brillo boys' have not run their device for a long enough period to generate detectable products. If they are following this discussion perhaps one of them would respond to your pertinent question about the detection

Re: [Vo]:More Details About Pirelli High School Cold Fusion Experiment

That must have been frightening. I would like to understand what they conclude; are they suggesting that they initially had a fusion reaction followed by a multitude of different pathway fission processes? Dave -Original Message- From: Jed Rothwell To: vortex-l Sent: Tue, Apr 24, 20

RE: [Vo]:Oil Price.com features Brillouin CF Reactor

Well, the short answer is instantaneous. The Brillo boys are using a variant of W-L theory, which to the thinking of many of us has more holes than Dunkin’ – since neutrons activate everything in the surroundings … but with a curious twist. That twist makes it fully falsifiable - and if it proves a

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Oil Price.com features Brillouin CF Reactor

It appears to be early in the development cycle for the dry reactor so let's hope that it progresses well. I have not seen any reference to transformation of nickel to copper as Rossi claims and I was wondering if anyone else has seen any references. Why would all of the freshly minted neutro

[Vo]:Can a Box Fly?

This one does by turning inside out: http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/nstv/2012/04/flying-object-propels-itself-by-flipping-inside-out.html?cmpid=NLC|NSNS|2012-2304-GLOBAL|flyingobjects&utm_medium=NLC&utm_source=NSNS&utm_content=flyingobjects http://goo.gl/p2NdK Is that an iPhone controller? N

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Oil Price.com features Brillouin CF Reactor

Brillouin expects the test of the new Hot Tube model at SRI will be capable of delivering steam at temperatures from 400ºC to 500ºC (750-932ºF). This means that SRI will build the high pressure hydrogen reactor. Currently, this reactor is just a concept and a hope. Such a reactor has not been prot

Re: [Vo]:More Details About Pirelli High School Cold Fusion Experiment

For more about the explosion, see: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MizunoTanomalouse.pdf

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Oil Price.com features Brillouin CF Reactor

maybe I minsinterpreted their reports, but it seem that the COP~2 is for the low temperature liquid phase home boiler. they gas phase boiler, working at 400-500C seems to have an undisclosed COP... can someone correct me. Le 24 avril 2012 16:30, Robert Lynn a écrit : > While Brillouin seems wel

Re: [Vo]:International Conference "The Atom Unexplored" - May 4th, 2012

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Akira Shirakawa wrote: > On 2012-04-19 11:21, Akira Shirakawa wrote: > >> Website: http://www.theatomunexplored.org/ > > > The website is now live: > http://theatomunexplored.com/ > > Cheers, > S.A. ...and the conference will be streamed online on this page on M

Re: [Vo]:More Details About Pirelli High School Cold Fusion Experiment

Daniel Rocha wrote: Does that use H or D? > Ordinary water, that has been purified with a Milli-Q purifier. See: http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MizunoTconfirmatia.pdf They spend a couple of days cleaning the cathodes and other equipment, using a sacrifice cathode as a getter, and taking othe

[Vo]:Is There a Drone in Your Life?

My alma mater, Ga Tech, births drones! excerpt: "There are at least 63 active drone sites around the U.S, federal authorities have been forced to reveal following a landmark Freedom of Information lawsuit. The unmanned planes – some of which may have been designed to kill terror suspects – are b

Re: [Vo]:International Conference "The Atom Unexplored" - May 4th, 2012

On 2012-04-19 11:21, Akira Shirakawa wrote: Website: http://www.theatomunexplored.org/ The website is now live: http://theatomunexplored.com/ Cheers, S.A.

Re: [Vo]:More Details About Pirelli High School Cold Fusion Experiment

Reading the description of the experimental setup Abundo writes only of Hydrogen. The text below is very interesting besides mentioning Hydrogen gas, gives the idea that, as many guessed on vortex-l, that Rossi's catalyst is indeed iron used to split H2 in H. "il mix di polveri, quando usato con

Re: [Vo]:More Details About Pirelli High School Cold Fusion Experiment

I wrote: > As far as I know, you cannot make a glow discharge appear with 10s or > hundreds of watts. > I meant the plasma does not form WITHOUT at least 10s or hundreds of watts. Nothing happens at low power. You have turn up power until the cathode is incandescent and then purple streams of p

Re: [Vo]:More Details About Pirelli High School Cold Fusion Experiment

Does that use H or D? 2012/4/24 Jed Rothwell > Robert Lynn wrote: > >> >> They are thus probably generating 100's or Watts output based on their >> COP=4 claim, so it should be easy to do accurate calorimetry on. >> > > As far as I know, you cannot make a glow discharge appear with 10s or > hun

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Oil Price.com features Brillouin CF Reactor

While Brillouin seems well founded, disciplined and scientific it does appear that they have a pretty major problem in that their COP at 2.1 is too low to be commercially useful. I believe they achieved that almost a year ago if the info on their website is anything to go by, and yet in their rece

Re: [Vo]:More Details About Pirelli High School Cold Fusion Experiment

Robert Lynn wrote: > > They are thus probably generating 100's or Watts output based on their > COP=4 claim, so it should be easy to do accurate calorimetry on. > As far as I know, you cannot make a glow discharge appear with 10s or hundreds of watts. The calorimetry was challenging in the glow

Re: [Vo]:More Details About Pirelli High School Cold Fusion Experiment

A quick reading and first impressions: 1/ It appears then that they are using 100's of Watt input from a rectified Variac. Though actual power input is only hinted at with Variac Range of 60-240V and 0.3-9A input, (spanning 20-2160W), though later on they mention 120-160V and as little as 0.3A so

[Vo]:Hot Fusion people try to solve their problems

While searching for links to my QUI CITO newsletter I came upon this: A possible solution to a critical barrier to producing fusion energy http://www.kurzweilai.net/a-possible-solution-to-a-critical-barrier-to-producing-fusion-energy It is always stimulating to see the competition trying to solve

RE: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Oil Price.com features Brillouin CF Reactor

Ron, I got no complaints with their theory - right or wrong it is, IMHO, closer to the truth than all the others. The herd is thinning and I predict we will see a shift toward the Brillouin technology even while trying to wrap it in their own proprietary theories along with a c

[Vo]:More Details About Pirelli High School Cold Fusion Experiment

From e-Catworld: http://www.e-catworld.com/2012/04/more-details-about-pirelli-high-school-cold-fusion-experiment/ This is a human translation of the email sent yesterday to 22passi by the L.Pirelli CF experiment organizer eng. Ugo Abundo. I recommend reading it. Instructions and directions o

[Vo]:Oil Price.com features Brillouin CF Reactor

Greetings All, In case that you haven t see this before: http://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/New-LENR-Machine-is-the-Best-Yet.html Respectfully, Ron Kita, Chiralex