Re: [Vo]:SPAWAR has yet to respond re simple error in claims of effects of external high voltage dc fields inside a conducting electrolyte: Rich Murray 2012.03.01 2012.07.02

2012-07-04 Thread David Roberson
I think the explanation offered by Jeff is pretty good. As long as a significant electric field is within the cell conductive region charged ions will be driven by that field in such a manner as to eliminate it. This concentrates the electric field so that it appears across the non

Re: [Vo]:Electron Stimulated Luminescence (ESL)

2012-07-04 Thread Jojo Jaro
Axil, the way I understand it from your posts is that: the 1-dimensional nanotube would capture electrons in the plasma that will then accumulate charge that will screen the coulomb barrier on any atom that may happen to be nearby. When coulomb barrier is screened, fusion occurs, or fission

[Vo]:First photo of shadow of single atom...

2012-07-04 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
First photo of shadow of single atom http://phys.org/news/2012-07-photo-shadow-atom.html Excerpts: = Holding an atom still long enough to take its photo, while remarkable in itself, is not new technology; the atom is isolated within a chamber and held in free space by

[Vo]:Some other interesting science news...

2012-07-04 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Some other interesting science news: New method knocks out stubborn electron problem http://phys.org/news/2012-07-method-stubborn-electron-problem.html Excerpt: Molecules have anywhere from tens to thousands of electrons, and the computational complexity of simulating their behavior

Re: [Vo]:Electron Stimulated Luminescence (ESL)

2012-07-04 Thread Axil Axil
As a preface, it is not known what kind of nanotubes Vu1 is using. If they are using SWNT, then the electrons will be entangled and coherent. I have not looked at the patent is detail, but I doubt that this sort of detail will be provided by Au1. In any case. their nanotubes will be well made

Re: [Vo]:First photo of shadow of single atom...

2012-07-04 Thread Jojo Jaro
Amazing. The atom looks like it might be composed of concentric shells. Anyways, haven't we been able to visualize better resolution than this with electron microscopy? Jojo BTW, how do you resolve a electron with light? Isn't an electron smaller than the smallest wavelength of visible

[Vo]:Christos Stremmenos' rebuttal to Peter Gluck's DGTG interview

2012-07-04 Thread Akira Shirakawa
Hello group, A long post by Christos Stremmenos just got posted on JONP. It appears to have been written in both English and Italian: http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=645cpage=4#comment-269793 For convenience, here it is, in its entirety: Christos Stremmenos July 4th, 2012 at

RE: [Vo]:Some other interesting science news...

2012-07-04 Thread Jones Beene
Mark, Physicists identify new quantum state allowing three -- but not two -- atoms to stick together http://phys.org/news/2012-07-strength-physicists-quantum-state-.html Not sure it is really 'new' since we have talked about Efimov

Re: [Vo]:SPAWAR has yet to respond re simple error in claims of effects of external high voltage dc fields inside a conducting electrolyte: Rich Murray 2012.03.01 2012.07.02

2012-07-04 Thread Jeff Driscoll
after some thinking I realized I made a few wrong statements - see below On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 2:18 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: I think the explanation offered by Jeff is pretty good. As long as a significant electric field is within the cell conductive region charged ions

RE: [Vo]:Some other interesting science news...

2012-07-04 Thread Jones Beene
I have no idea now what LENR reactions would be favored by three atoms of f/H operating as a locked triad bosonic isomer. But that lack of speculation for now is mainly because the espresso machine is not fired up yet... ...set you spam filter

RE: [Vo]:SPAWAR has yet to respond re simple error in claims of effects of external high voltage dc fields inside a conducting electrolyte: Rich Murray 2012.03.01 2012.07.02

2012-07-04 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 11:46 PM 7/3/2012, Finlay MacNab wrote: Sorry, I fail to see why the voltage drop is 3kv across the acrylic layer. Why is that exactly? There are three regions involved, between the plates that are connected to a high voltage supply, 6 KV. There is the first cell wall, 1/16 inch (1.6

Re: [Vo]:Big ice crystals and curved ice rods around volcano in Antarctica

2012-07-04 Thread Harry Veeder
Nice pictures. A breeze might cause water to form curving icicles as it freezes. harry On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 10:51 AM, David Jonsson davidjonssonswe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi How can ice crystals grow to ths big size? Image is from around the volcano Mount Erebus at Antarctica

[Vo]: European commission recommends funding for LENR research

2012-07-04 Thread Moab Moab
The European Commission - Directorate-General for Research and Innovation has published a report in which they recommend funding research in LENR. http://ec.europa.eu/research/industrial_technologies/pdf/emerging-materials-report_en.pdf Does this mean that the topic will finally get mainstream

Re: [Vo]:Christos Stremmenos' rebuttal to Peter Gluck's DGTG interview

2012-07-04 Thread Peter Gluck
Thanks! He is right, my first question had to be formulated differently from the point of view of management science. I will answer on my Blog, JONP does not accept my messages. Peter On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.comwrote: Hello group, A long post by

Re: [Vo]: European commission recommends funding for LENR research

2012-07-04 Thread Harry Veeder
I haven't read the report myself, but I learned from a facebook group that it contains a recommendation by some contributing professionals for research into LENR which is not the same as an official recommendation by the commission. harry On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Moab Moab

RE: [Vo]:SPAWAR has yet to respond re simple error in claims of effects of external high voltage dc fields inside a conducting electrolyte: Rich Murray 2012.03.01 2012.07.02

2012-07-04 Thread Finlay MacNab
Your argument assumes that the there is no air gap between the dielectric and the charged plates. It also assumes that the electrolyte behaves like a regular 100ohm resistor. In this case, where the movement of ions in electrolyte is dominated by diffusion and mixing from the gas bubbles

Re: [Vo]:SPAWAR has yet to respond re simple error in claims of effects of external high voltage dc fields inside a conducting electrolyte: Rich Murray 2012.03.01 2012.07.02

2012-07-04 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing, if one presumes that it means anything. At 12:11 AM 7/4/2012, Rich Murray wrote: I'm glad to see my post has ignited a local hot spot in Vortex-L... Some good will come out of it. I do intend to take this to the original authors for comment,

[Vo]:My answer to Prof. Stremmenos re the Interview

2012-07-04 Thread Peter Gluck
My dear friends, My Interview with Defkalion Green Technologies Global has generated a reaction of negative enthusiasm from Professor Christos Stremmenos who seems to be a convinced Rossiphile. (So am I within some limits.) I have answered to Stremmenos' critics on my blog:

Re: [Vo]:Some other interesting science news...

2012-07-04 Thread Eric Walker
On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 7:34 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: That could be nothing more than trivia, or not. It does indicate neutrons to spare if you are in the camp that thinks that Ni-H involves some new-physics kind of gamma-less nuclear reaction with no subsequent decay. What

[Vo]:Japanese researcher publishes 172 fake papers

2012-07-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
So much for the peer-review system. See: slatest.slate.com/posts/2012/07/03/japanese_anesthesiologist_clinches_world_record_for_retractions_publishing_172_fabricated_papers.html

Re: [Vo]:Japanese researcher publishes 172 fake papers

2012-07-04 Thread Daniel Rocha
Without the peer review system, there wouldn't be fake papers. 2012/7/4 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com So much for the peer-review system. See: slatest.slate.com/posts/2012/07/03/japanese_anesthesiologist_clinches_world_record_for_retractions_publishing_172_fabricated_papers.html --

Re: [Vo]:Japanese researcher publishes 172 fake papers

2012-07-04 Thread Peter Gluck
The peer review system is as marriage or democracy- creates many problems but nothing better was invented yet. Peter On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 9:51 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: Without the peer review system, there wouldn't be fake papers. 2012/7/4 Jed Rothwell

Re: [Vo]:Japanese researcher publishes 172 fake papers

2012-07-04 Thread Daniel Rocha
I was sarcastic... 2012/7/4 Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com The peer review system is as marriage or democracy- creates many problems but nothing better was invented yet. Peter On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 9:51 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.comwrote: Without the peer review system,

Re: [Vo]:Christos Stremmenos' rebuttal to Peter Gluck's DGTG interview

2012-07-04 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
Stremmenos' speaking out is definitely important. Us observers of the scene know about this unpleasant dispute grosso modo. Let me summarize: 1) Stremmenos definitely, firmly believes in LENR, not as a weak phenomenon, but as a strong one. Not only he BELIEVES, but he claims to KNOW from first

RE: [Vo]:My answer to Prof. Stremmenos re the Interview

2012-07-04 Thread Jones Beene
Well. it's still a few months before the day of Atonement, but it looks like you are being made into a convenient scapegoat, Peter. He clearly got himself into an allegiance bind months ago, and then failed to make an early choice of teams - so he became almost a nobody . losing favor with

Re: [Vo]:Japanese researcher publishes 172 fake papers

2012-07-04 Thread Alain Sepeda
If you follow the papers of roland benabou on collective delusion, group think, one conclusion is thare there should be ex-ante measures to protect dissenters. like the free speech in US. peer review is like democracy, without a constitution to block dangerous votes, it became dictatorship of

[Vo]:ILENRS-12 at WM

2012-07-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
I attended the International Low Energy Nuclear Reactions Symposium (ILENRS-12) at The College of William and Mary, Williamsburg, Virginia. I just got back. The website for the conference is here:

Re: [Vo]:SPAWAR has yet to respond re simple error in claims of effects of external high voltage dc fields inside a conducting electrolyte: Rich Murray 2012.03.01 2012.07.02

2012-07-04 Thread Eric Walker
On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.comwrote: Actual experimental results are more toward double, the value, over 40 MeV/He-4, which very likely reflects the difficulty in capturing all the helium (if helium is not captured and measured, particularly if it

Re: [Vo]:SPAWAR has yet to respond re simple error in claims of effects of external high voltage dc fields inside a conducting electrolyte: Rich Murray 2012.03.01 2012.07.02

2012-07-04 Thread Eric Walker
I wrote: Assuming for the moment that the 40 MeV/4He result is solid and can be reliably replicated, and going with helium as a predominant non-radiative byproduct, what does this say about the reactions involved? Does it mean that there would need to be more than helium generation, or is

Re: [Vo]:SPAWAR has yet to respond re simple error in claims of effects of external high voltage dc fields inside a conducting electrolyte: Rich Murray 2012.03.01 2012.07.02

2012-07-04 Thread Rich Murray
Well, there's a saying in Zen about swallowing the Niagara Falls in one gulp -- perhaps a tsunami of verbal arguments by Lomax may float visions that are plausibly contrary to the visions aired by Murray -- but the possiblities of micro and nano level storage and release of chemical energy by

Re: [Vo]:Some other interesting science news...

2012-07-04 Thread Eric Walker
I wrote: Has someone put together a comprehensive catalog of the branches that would need to be considered, including ones involving neutrons, either for palladium or nickel, for the kinds of energy ranges we're talking about? This would be very helpful. I find EXFOR hard to work with; it

Re: [Vo]:SPAWAR has yet to respond re simple error in claims of effects of external high voltage dc fields inside a conducting electrolyte: Rich Murray 2012.03.01 2012.07.02

2012-07-04 Thread David Roberson
I also agree that it must be the escape of helium that causes the mismatch, and I notice that the numbers are definitely pointing in that direction. The amount of energy released per reaction should be well defined and equal to the mass deficit if the end product is helium with hydrogen as

Re: [Vo]:Big ice crystals and curved ice rods around volcano in Antarctica

2012-07-04 Thread Jojo Jaro
Impurities can lower (or increase) the freezing point of one side of the flowing water allowing it to freeze while the other side is still flowing, thereby creating a curved icicle. Breeze will not explain why the curve changes direction but impurities can. Jojo - Original Message

Re: [Vo]:My answer to Prof. Stremmenos re the Interview

2012-07-04 Thread Peter Gluck
Nothing unpleasant, my friend! I have a very deep experience in disputes, scientific and technical; that includes discusiions for quality standards- verbal fights, negotiations with potential partners..The arguments of S. are weak. Politically he is a personality a Greek patriot, cold fusion is a

RE: [Vo]:SPAWAR has yet to respond re simple error in claims of effects of external high voltage dc fields inside a conducting electrolyte: Rich Murray 2012.03.01 2012.07.02

2012-07-04 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 12:00 PM 7/4/2012, Finlay MacNab wrote: Your argument assumes that the there is no air gap between the dielectric and the charged plates. It also assumes that the electrolyte behaves like a regular 100ohm resistor. The plates are against the cell walls. Sure, you can make up an air gap.