Re: [Vo]:my new paper

2012-10-12 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear Abd, I agree with your thread of thinking. However, in the paper I have intentionally not mentioned that our Sacrosanct Physics is in a state indistinguishable from a Crisis, There are many similar problems having no genuine theory, or not complete theory, or two theories that are in part

[Vo]:Hot Cat COP 11.7

2012-10-12 Thread Terry Blanton
http://www.e-catworld.com/2012/10/leonardo-corp-releases-new-hot-cat-report/

Re: [Vo]:Hot Cat COP 11.7

2012-10-12 Thread Craig Haynie
Awesome! He ran it for 228 hours. Unless he's deluded or lying, he's got it. Craig On 10/12/2012 12:36 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: http://www.e-catworld.com/2012/10/leonardo-corp-releases-new-hot-cat-report/

Re: [Vo]:Hot Cat COP 11.7

2012-10-12 Thread Robert Lynn
I've been disappointed by his claims too many times - with his uncanny ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory through sloppiness. As far as most of the world is concerned (and even a lot of people who follow this closely) until we see independent confirmation this is just more

Re: [Vo]:A Machine to Die For

2012-10-12 Thread ecat builder
The only egg on Eric's face was due to editing, to make the subject of free energy interesting for viewers. The $300,000 gravity wheel never ran more than three hours, and that was aided by the wind. http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Aldo_Costa%27s_Gravity_Motor From the above link, Eric

RE: [Vo]:Hot Cat COP 11.7

2012-10-12 Thread Arnaud Kodeck
If claim of Rossi are right, the power density per gram of powder is awesome 596.85 W/g ( (14337-2400)/20 ) Celani's wire is around ~70 W/g -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com] Sent: vendredi 12 octobre 2012 18:37 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject:

RE: [Vo]:Hot Cat COP 11.7

2012-10-12 Thread Arnaud Kodeck
Why Rossi is taking energy produced per weight as a power density ? In the report he says : POWER DENSITY 163,4 MW*kg^-1 (onehundred sixtythree point four MWh per kg) (see the Ragone Plot at pag. 15 of the Penon Report attached) He

Re: [Vo]:Hot Cat COP 11.7

2012-10-12 Thread Craig Haynie
If average power over 228 hours is 14.337 KW, and the total charge is 20 g, then shouldn't the power density be: 14337 / 20 = 716 watts/gm = 716 kw / kg Craig On 10/12/2012 01:15 PM, Arnaud Kodeck wrote: Why Rossi is taking energy produced per weight as a power density ? In the report he says

Re: [Vo]:Hot Cat COP 11.7

2012-10-12 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 09:36 AM 10/12/2012, Terry Blanton wrote: http://www.e-catworld.com/2012/10/leonardo-corp-releases-new-hot-cat-report/ Electrical measurements : pce-830 http://www.industrial-needs.com/manual/power-anlayser-pce-830.pdf

Re: [Vo]:Hot Cat COP 11.7

2012-10-12 Thread Craig Haynie
If claim of Rossi are right, the power density per gram of powder is awesome 596.85 W/g ( (14337-2400)/20 ) This is correct. I neglected to subtract out the input power. Craig On 10/12/2012 01:21 PM, Craig Haynie wrote: If average power over 228 hours is 14.337 KW, and the total charge is 20

Re: [Vo]:Hot Cat COP 11.7

2012-10-12 Thread Bruno Santos
Yet another Rossi said... It is getting a little bit repetitive. 2012/10/12 Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.com If claim of Rossi are right, the power density per gram of powder is awesome 596.85 W/g ( (14337-2400)/20 ) This is correct. I neglected to subtract out the input power.

Re: [Vo]:Hot Cat COP 11.7

2012-10-12 Thread Daniel Rocha
The COP went up!!! 2012/10/12 Bruno Santos besantos1...@gmail.com Yet another Rossi said... It is getting a little bit repetitive. 2012/10/12 Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.com If claim of Rossi are right, the power density per gram of powder is awesome 596.85 W/g ( (14337-2400)/20 )

Re: [Vo]:Sims

2012-10-12 Thread Terry Blanton
The Red Pill: http://www.technologyreview.com/view/429561/the-measurement-that-would-reveal-the-universe-as/ Do we really want to know?

Re: [Vo]:Sims

2012-10-12 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
terry sez: The Red Pill: http://www.technologyreview.com/view/429561/the-measurement-that-would-reveal-the-universe-as/ Do we really want to know? Probably doesn't matter all that much... unless the universe is preparaing to install a new OS within the next millennium or so. In which case,

Re: [Vo]:Open Source Papp Update

2012-10-12 Thread Axil Axil
*Russ’s popper experimentation has shown some useful engineering details regarding systems that use arching in a hydrogen atmosphere.* * * *The popper will become contaminated with tungsten powder after a relatively small number of arc discharges are done by Thoriated Tungsten Electrodes at high

Re: [Vo]:Hot Cat COP 11.7

2012-10-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
Robert Lynn robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com wrote: I've been disappointed by his claims too many times - with his uncanny ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory through sloppiness. Exactly. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Hot Cat COP 11.7

2012-10-12 Thread David Roberson
I certainly hope that the new data is accurate. But if history repeats itself, there are likely to be errors of some type. When will we get to see independent test results to give us the confidence that we so much desire? Dave

Re: [Vo]:Open Source Papp Update

2012-10-12 Thread ChemE Stewart
I agree. I think it will alter any material on earth it comes into contact with over a period of time. Will need disposable parts... On Friday, October 12, 2012, Axil Axil wrote: *Russ’s popper experimentation has shown some useful engineering details regarding systems that use arching in a

Re: [Vo]:Hot Cat COP 11.7

2012-10-12 Thread ChemE Stewart
The higher COP includes additional energy calculated when the transformer overheated, vessel wall melted, table cracked from embrittlement and the blinding array of photons released:) On Friday, October 12, 2012, David Roberson wrote: I certainly hope that the new data is accurate. But if

Re: [Vo]:Hot Cat COP 11.7

2012-10-12 Thread Patrick Ellul
This is his paint supplier: http://www.universokema.eu/ On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 7:35 AM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote: The higher COP includes additional energy calculated when the transformer overheated, vessel wall melted, table cracked from embrittlement and the blinding array of

Re: [Vo]:Hot Cat COP 11.7

2012-10-12 Thread Patrick Ellul
Updated report: http://www.e-catworld.com/2012/10/update-andrea-rossi-provides-corrected-pordenone-hot-cat-report/ Still has some , vs . mixups. On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 7:51 AM, Patrick Ellul ellulpatr...@gmail.comwrote: This is his paint supplier: http://www.universokema.eu/ On Sat, Oct

Re: [Vo]:Hot Cat COP 11.7

2012-10-12 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 4:27 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: I certainly hope that the new data is accurate. But if history repeats itself, there are likely to be errors of some type. When will we get to see independent test results to give us the confidence that we so much

Re: [Vo]:Hot Cat COP 11.7

2012-10-12 Thread David Roberson
Maybe so ChemE! My quick analysis reveals that the true COP in the self sustaining mode is in line with his earlier statements. If you take the total input energy during the self sustaining mode (278.4 kWh) and divide by the hours in this mode (118 Hours) you get 2.359 kW. This matches his

Re: [Vo]:CR39

2012-10-12 Thread mixent
In reply to Abd ul-Rahman Lomax's message of Thu, 11 Oct 2012 17:41:29 -0500: Hi, [snip] That may be true according to conventional wisdom, however consider the following possibility. Severely shrunken Hydrino molecules could easily migrate through the interstitial spaces in solid matter, and

RE: [Vo]:Hot Cat COP 11.7

2012-10-12 Thread Arnaud Kodeck
Dave, In selfsustaining mode, there is no input power to the cylinder. So I don't understand the 3 first sentences of your email. Self sustain mode is no input power and you say 2.359 kW. Duty cycle is 118/328 = 0.359. Time when the system was not in self sustaining mode is 328-118 = 210 hours.

[Vo]:Hot Cat COP 11.7

2012-10-12 Thread Terry Blanton
Forwarded with permission. -- Forwarded message -- From: Lewan Mats Mats.Lewan@** Date: Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 5:30 PM Subject: Direct Mail: Hot Cat COP 11.7 To: hohlr...@gmail.com hohlr...@gmail.com Cc: Alan Fletcher alanfletc...@farcad.com, David Roberson

Re: [Vo]:Hot Cat COP 11.7

2012-10-12 Thread Alan J Fletcher
Andrea Rossi October 12th, 2012 at 3:27 PM DEAR READERS: THIS MORNING I SENT TO THE SPECIALIZED MAGAZINES THE TEXT OF MY REPORT. UNFORTUNATELY, I CLICKED THE WRONG ADDRESS, AND SENT THE DRAFT FULL OF TYPOS, WITH NONSENSE NUMBERS. I AM JUST RETURNED FROM PORDENONE AND REALIZED THIS !!! ( IT IS

Re: [Vo]:Hot Cat COP 11.7

2012-10-12 Thread David Roberson
I think you are missing something Arnaud. Rossi uses the phrase self sustaining to include operation where the input power is applied intermittently. I consider this to be a drive it to the desired level and let it drift until it needs to be re driven again mode. It is very difficult to

RE: [Vo]:Hot Cat COP 11.7

2012-10-12 Thread Arnaud Kodeck
So from your point of view, Rossy is saying that in self sustaining mode, the average consumed power is 2.4 kW ... That's not a so called self sustaining mode ?!? Dave, bear in mind also that the computation of the dissipated power is completly faulty ... cfr mail from Mats. This report is crap

Re: [Vo]:Hot Cat COP 11.7

2012-10-12 Thread David Roberson
Arnaud, I determined that the average consumed power input is 2.4 kW during the self sustaining mode of operation according to the report. It is not what you or I might call self sustaining operation, but I can see how Rossi might consider it that. He might be thinking of the fact that the

[Vo]:New Experiment Started

2012-10-12 Thread David Roberson
I have completed my electrolysis experiment using a standard issue nickel with a second one at the positive electrode. My electrolyte is sodium carbonate (Arm Hammer washing soda) which does not foul up the positive electrode as much as borax. For a short time it looked as though I was